Sanlav posted:

I don't know that such a thing exists. It was a media driven gutting, Corbyn had no allies. He acted in good faith thinking his wide popular support, authentic personality, gravitas, and the fact he'd delivered historic gains in seats for Labor between 2015 and 2019 would make people have some perspective on the matter.

I'm pretty naive about the UK Parliament ins and outs, but there seem to be a dozen Sinema's and Manchin's in the Labour MP field. A number of them changed parties to lib-dem soc-dem etc parties that had stated they'd refuse to do a coalition gov't so long as Corbyn was the labour candidate. Others went to press to regurgitate their 'suspicions' of antisemitism. They kicked one labour MP out over it as an example, but mostly they ran headlines week after week about how Corbyn was doing socials with holocaust deniers and hugging Muslims until he narrowly lost to Boris effing Johnson in a gimme election where Brexit was a disaster, May underwhelming, and Corbyn broadly popular.

Labour could of defended him in any number of ways to close the miniscule margin he lost by, but that'd mean he'd be calling the shots about I/P right now. A number of Israeli orgnizations applied pressure to the Labour party to adopt language to make speech about Israel hate speech. They succeeded, and got Jeremy Corbyn to make the 2019 election about apologizing to British Jews for criticizing Israel. Every podium he got up on, someone had a question lined up. And when the rhetoric didn't destroy him on it's own, there was the internal party effort to lose on his behalf.

https://novaramedia.com/2020/04/12/its-going-to-be-a-long-night-how-members-of-labours-senior-management-campaigned-to-lose/

RC Cola posted:

What the gently caress

RC Cola posted:

What the gently caress

gradenko_2000 posted:

code:

https://twitter.com/christapeterso/status/1780773698938736842

RC Cola posted:

What the gently caress

Valleyant posted:

https://twitter.com/EmissaryOfNight/status/1780720777706266796

Do you think abbas regrets being the traitor champ of the world at this point

fuctifino posted:

The Israeli's influence and bribery on UK politics has been well documented.
https://twitter.com/OwenPaintbrush/status/1097993065153941504

Nothing came from this. She did leave Labour be part of a short-lived centrist breakaway party in 2019, losing her seat, and then since leaving politics she now CEO of ELNET-UK, the British section of ELNET, a "NGO working to strengthen relations between Europe and Israel".....

Al! posted:

decided to pull up the map and...lol (green is recognizes)

PhilippAchtel posted:

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Al! posted:

it's a great map of the empire

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Iceland stepping out of line is probably going to have some consequence or another.

Al! posted:

sweden only did it to differentiate itself from norway

Fast Luck posted:

Like seriously is this a joke? They think the chance to meet Biden is a bargaining chip?

quote:

The Palestinian official said Abbas rejected this trade-off and said he agreed to such a U.S. proposal a year ago but never got an invitation.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

x-posting to the IP thread, since it concerns snake handlers' biblical relationship to Israel and Iran,

It's funny that evangelicals can see why Orange Man Bad is good, but liberals can't.

To evangelicals, Donald Trump is like Cyrus the Great. God uses an unlikely figure to accomplish divine purposes. They're drawing on the Book of Isaiah, where Cyrus is referred to as the Lord’s “shepherd” and “his anointed,” whom God has taken by the right hand to subdue nations before him (Isaiah 44:28, 45:1). Cyrus, a Persian king, is a vessel through which God’s will is enacted, specifically in enabling the return of the Jews from exile and the rebuilding of the Jerusalem Temple. Obviously this last part is worrisome for reasons discussed in the I/P thread.

Trump’s presidency was seen in a similar light. Despite his lol "personal flaws" at odds with evangelical values (not being able to even throw them a bone by naming his favourite passage of the bible), his political decisions, like moving the embassy, figure into snake handler biblical prophecies and Calvinist belief in predestination. They think this is why an unrighteous man and New York socialite was miraculously guided to support for Israel, his appointment of conservative judges, his of talk about religious freedom (which is still code for de facto segregated schools). This is because, like our friends the liberals, they don't really understand politics as superstructure, where Trump chose messages and policies to elicit this reaction. Instead, this is God working through Trump.

Even though he isn't opposed to abortion, he set the groundwork for where we are now, and they love it. These unlikely words and actions are all seen as the kind of leadership that accomplishes God’s will, like Cyrus did by issuing the decree that led to the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem. Trump's personal and public discrepancies, if anything, enhance their belief in his instrumental role in divine strategy. God uses flawed individuals to fulfill divine purposes, the more flawed, the more great is our God.

Okay, so, Persian king, right?

Belshazzar, according to the narrative in the Book of Daniel, was the last king of Babylon who presided over the final days of his empire. His rule ended dramatically with the sudden invasion by - guess who? - Cyrus the Great of Persia, an event foretold by the mysterious writing on the wall during Belshazzar's impious feast. This writing, "Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin," decoded by Daniel, prophesied the imminent downfall of Belshazzar’s reign, signaling that his kingdom was judged, found wanting, and would be divided between the Medes and Persians.

We can "predict" how Trump plays a part in future events, not out of snake handling, but because we understand Orange Man Bad as part of a system, and Biden as part of its collapse, the "writing on the wall". Think about it this way, how often do we talk about how Biden has been?:

"Mene" (numbered): Pandemic casualties, economic distress, and housing costs

"Tekel" (weighed): Biden's presidency in terms of how effectively it addresses core systemic issues such as economic inequality, healthcare, racial justice, and climate change (not at all).

"Peres/Upharsin" (divided/found wanting): American society was already unravelling, which we can understand as a process beginning in the 1960's, but culturally, it's never been more visible.

That movie Civil War is dog brained, but Jan 6 scared the bejesus out of liberals who think it came out of nowhere. We saw "the writing on the wall" as the base drives superstructure. Remember that Daniel tells Belshazzar that his kingdom will be divided and given to the Medes and Persians. Biden has just blundered into a conflict with the Persians, where Iran very well might close the Strait of Hormuz, impacting global oil flows and economic stability. Other fronts of the American empire are also pressed by Biden bumbling around like Mr Magoo. You can decide who the best fit for the Medes is, Russia or China.

TRPF suggests that capitalist systems inherently face declining profitability over time, leading to crises unless counteracted by significant measures (e.g., technological innovation, market expansion). Biden’s policies are prophetic in the sense that they accelerate these systemic crises. Just like Belshazzar's rule ended with the external intervention of the Persians, Biden's administration is in even deeper trouble as Israel keeps trying to widen the war. The externality of the Medes, Ukraine could collapse, could also be a catalyst for these deep, unresolved, crises to bring about ruin.

In either case, Trump's return is essentially written on the wall, ultimately a good thing in bringing about the collapse of this mess, or at least hilariously disruptive to it. To liberals, this is as arcane and ridiculous as biblical prophesy. They don't understand how we could see a bigger picture, how Trump fits into a kind of teleology. Liberals have no frame of reference for him. The evangelicals, God bless them, at least have a worldview that has been able to explain why Orange Man Bad is disruptive to the existing system, and to a degree, why these disruptions, and it seems his election, are an inevitability.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

"Galician Jews or Galitzianers (Yiddish: גאַליציאַנער, romanized: Galitsianer) are members of the subgroup of Ashkenazi Jews originating and developed in the Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria and Bukovina from contemporary western Ukraine (Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, and Ternopil Oblasts) and from south-eastern Poland (Subcarpathian and Lesser Poland). Galicia proper, which was inhabited by Ruthenians, Poles and Jews, became a royal province within Austria-Hungary after the Partitions of Poland in the late 18th century. Galician Jews primarily spoke Yiddish."

Which, appropriately enough, went on to produce,



"Pinhas Lavon an Israeli politician, minister and labor leader, best known for the Lavon Affair."

The Lavon affair was a failed Israeli covert operation, codenamed Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the summer of 1954. As part of a false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence to plant bombs inside Egyptian-, American-, and British-owned civilian targets: cinemas, libraries, and American educational centers. The bombs were timed to detonate several hours after closing time. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian communists, "unspecified malcontents", or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.

Big Israel and Little Israel have cultural roots in the same loving province of Austria-Hungary, which, as a deliberately managed multicultural province in a multiethnic state, contained all of these nationalist energies. The early conferences of the Zionist movement and a lot of the leadership originated in Galicia. This is happening side by side with the bumpkin nationalism that would produce Bandera. The pogroms that were the "national awakening" of the Ukrainians, understandably enough, fuelled the beliefs of the Zionist project. They are so deeply related, as in Zionist groups and Ukrainian nationalist groups were both setting up camps and talking about how much they hated the Poles, separately, throughout the interwar years. There's a huge confluence there, and the actions of Israel would be approximately what you'd expect from Bandera and his guys in a successor state. If Ukraine had the means, they'd be acting the same way. The reason Donetsk doesn't look like Gaza was because Russia was there.

It's too bad Bram Stoker chose Transylvania, which was relatively tranquil, because if Dracula had been set in neighbouring Galicia, I feel like the region would have the reputation it deserves.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Presumably they believe that, just like the creation of Israel solved the jewish question for Europe, a Palestinian state gives them somewhere to send all the Syrian refugees Swedes have a pathological animus towards.

Fast Luck posted:

Like seriously is this a joke? They think the chance to meet Biden is a bargaining chip?

U-DO Burger posted:

Not only is it not a joke, they actually made that offer before, and it worked and then the white house ghosted him lol

U-DO Burger posted:

Not only is it not a joke, they actually made that offer before, and it worked and then the white house ghosted him lol

PhilippAchtel posted:

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madmatt112 posted:

Man, you’ve been posting some weird vibes tonight friend. Do you need to take a breather?

Butter Activities posted:

I tried out the game where you shoot IDF in the face. It's not good but it is fun. Heres a terrible but funny enough run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duJ3tF6PajU

madmatt112 posted:

Man, you’ve been posting some weird vibes tonight friend. Do you need to take a breather?

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

Lol nice. I played it like a grounded shooter until i realized i could wallrun and poo poo.

I beat the levels and wanna try getting A ranks for those skins

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

???

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

FirstnameLastname posted:

noone of Nordic Blood could be racist

madmatt112 posted:

Man, you’ve been posting some weird vibes tonight friend. Do you need to take a breather?

bedpan posted:

If you look back at what the state department press was saying around the time of donald trump talking with north korea, a foreign leader meeting the US president was said to have a legitimizing effect that should be the reward of concessions by the north koreans.

Butter Activities posted:

I tried out the game where you shoot IDF in the face. It's not good but it is fun. Heres a terrible but funny enough run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duJ3tF6PajU

quote:

Last Friday afternoon, shortly after the Palestinian writer and researcher Salman Abu Sitta had said that ‘the voice of the victim is silenced, denied, condemned and vilified,’ the German police cut the power to the Palästina-Kongress in Berlin.

The three-day conference, whose organisers included the Jüdische Stimme für gerechten Frieden in Nahost (‘Jewish Voice for Just Peace in the Middle East’), had faced opposition since it was announced in February. There were predictable headlines from the pro-Israel media conglomerate Axel Springer, but even leftist outlets used similar rhetoric: tazcalled the event a gathering for ‘anti-Israel and terror-glorifying groups’, quoting a source who suggested that the conference had links to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood and was likely to support ‘Islamism and terrorism’; Jungle World billed it as a ‘congress of Israel haters’.

The Berlin Senate tried to find ways to cancel the event. The Berliner Sparkasse bank froze Jüdische Stimme’s account, which had been used to collect the donations and ticket sales for the conference, refusing to release the funds until the group provided a list of its members’ full names and addresses. Organisers quickly put together a fundraising event so the conference could continue. They had to relocate at the last minute after the initial venue, a café in Kreuzberg, received a phone call from the police regarding ‘security concerns’ for the event and felt pressured to cancel.

The conference’s event space in Tempelhof reportedly received similar calls. ‘Are these the methods of the mafia or are these the methods of democracy?’ asked Jüdische Stimme’s chair, the composer Wieland Hoban.

On Friday, the Berlin mayor, Kai Wegner, tweeted that it was ‘intolerable’ that the conference was set to go on as planned. He may have had an inkling, however, that it wouldn’t: an hour earlier, Dr Ghassan Abu Sitta – who spent 43 days volunteering at hospitals in Gaza last year – flew into Brandenburg Airport from the UK to give a keynote address at the conference. Instead he was detained, questioned for three and a half hours and ultimately denied entry into Germany. The Greek economist and former finance minister Yanis Varoufakis, another speaker on the programme, was also barred from entering Germany or taking part in any political activity in the country, including by video call. (He has since published the text of his speech.)

There were also delays on the ground at the event space. Organisers had arrived at eight o’clock on Friday morning to begin setting up. Registration was due to take place between eleven and two. Citing vague ‘regulations’, however, the police had prevented almost everyone from entering the building. At half past one, I was among the hundreds of attendees still waiting for registration to start. An hour later, I was pressed between a volunteer who had been meant to start their shift at eleven but couldn’t get across the police line, and a woman who had flown in from Beirut that morning.

Approximately 2500 police were on duty for an event with 800 ticket-holders. The organisers were then told by the authorities that they would only be able to admit 250 ticket-holders: a ratio of ten police officers to every conference goer.

I had a press ticket but was denied entry by the police on the grounds that I was a freelancer and neither a German citizen nor working with a German media outlet. I later learned from Nadija Samour, a German-Palestinian lawyer who was working with the conference, that the police had a separate media list, and let ‘their’ members of the press in through a back door without the organisers’ knowledge.

It was a couple hours later that the video message from Salman Abu Sitta (Ghassan’s father) began. Three minutes into the recording, a group of twenty to thirty police in riot gear stormed the stage. A smaller group of officers broke into the electricity room and cut the power. Most of this – until the power cut – is partially visible and clearly audible on the conference’s livestream. After the power was cut, the room was plunged into darkness.

‘There was no communication, only chaos,’ one of the speakers told me afterwards. A police officer later explained that Salman Abu Sitta was banned from speaking in Germany, which was the reason the police cancelled the entire congress and ordered everyone to leave, making several arrests and removing some people by force. An officer outside shrugged as attendees pressed him with questions about the legality of cancelling the conference: ‘I’m just following orders.’

‘What happened yesterday is not and cannot be an internal German issue,’ the Israeli filmmaker Dror Dayan said at a press conference the following day. ‘What happened yesterday should go around the world; should shame and blame Germany everywhere.’

On Saturday afternoon, a demonstration against the suppression of the conference began outside Berlin’s town hall, the Rotes Rathaus. At least one of the U-bahn entrances along the route, at Unter den Linden, was blocked off, making it difficult for protesters to disperse if things got ugly. Police stormed the march, kettling demonstrators and, according to some social media posts, attempting to arrest children as young as eight or eleven years old. The march turned into a sit-in until those who had been detained were released.

The following day, demonstrators gathered on a sliver of Tiergarten across the street from the Bundestag where, for the previous week, the protest camp Occupy Against Occupation had been running. The police presence was high: at one point they banned the use of Arabic, even for prayers. Police vans lined Scheidemannstraße for most of Sunday. In the early evening, following a performance on the lawn by a Gazan musician whose song lyrics included the legally contested phrase ‘from the river to the sea’, members of the Kriminalpolizei charged the lawn in search of the rapper.

A heavy police presence at pro-Palestinian demonstrations isn’t new in Germany; nor is police brutality. The weekend’s events, however, represent a sharp uptick in suppression. One video shows several protesters being forced to the ground, some placed in chokeholds. One demonstrator in a kippah is shoved face-first into the dirt as he’s arrested, and later carried to a police van by four members of the Kripo. With the wind knocked out of him, he continues to shout: ‘Free Palestine!’

FirstnameLastname posted:

noone of Nordic Blood could be racist