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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Has anybody said "Ramirez, get to the Burger Town" ye-

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Make sure burger town is well within the shot.

gently caress

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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Yeah I'm pretty sure at this point an Iranian national looking in the general direction of an Israeli is grounds in Benny's book for jumping on TV to declare Iran must be nuked for the self-defense of Israel.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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lol weren't they crying about the UN being an evil illegitimate body like yesterday?

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

It came out later that the French had set up the Iraqi air defence system, which ran through 4 centralized computers the French set up, and then there are four pages of [REDACTED] concerning that in the congressional review of the Gulf War Air Power Survey which I'm assuming means France turned it off or something.

lmao

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Korean Boomhauer posted:

whats this guy doin



Whether rain, sleet, snow, or drones

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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euphronius posted:

iron dome taking a big L tonight

iron dome meet iran drone

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Bibi gonna break out the old acme bomb chart at the UN again at this rate.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

it's inconceivable what would happen if Israel dropped a nuke because nobody has had to retaliate for one ever. The Japanese were already on their last legs.

https://twitter.com/WarMonitors/status/1779327775674888447

So concerned he then immediately made sure to reiterate to the media that we are more committed to the defense of Israel than our own well being as a nation. gently caress off Genocide Joe.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Homeless Friend posted:

booster makes sense now, just hit the nitro to bypass interception kill range

https://twitter.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1779331384185602313

lmao millions upon millions of dollars worth of US made interceptors in that video failing to be even remotely effective, but don't worry guys we totally kick China's rear end if war broke out.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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So basically today Iran:
1) Proved they're not a paper tiger and are more than willing to hit back at anybody who takes a swipe at them.
2) Gave Israel like a week of lead time to build up defenses, launched an extremely telegraphed and slow attack that used a fraction of their offensive capabilities, and still managed to overwhelm the Iron Dome and hit a bunch of targets through the combined interceptor capabilities of Israel, the US, UK, France, Saudi Arabia, and Jordan.
3) Presented a perfectly logical and airtight rational of "Israel bombed our embassy, we appealed to the UN which didn't do poo poo, so we invoked our right to self defense and retaliated against military targets, we now consider the matter settled and any further escalation in violence is entirely on Israel stirring up poo poo again."
4) Created a new paradigm for Israel where they might actually have to worry about finding out if they keep loving around.

idk I don't really see how you can frame this as anything but an overwhelming W for Iran. Of course western media won't frame it that way at all: they'll talk about how the strikes were an abject failure and wow look at how good we all are at shooting down Iran's missiles, but there are absolutely some actual high up military people in the US and Israel right now behind closed doors going "oh gently caress, Iran doled out an extremely limp-wristed attack they gave us ages to prepare for and we still kinda barely were able to stop anything. If Bibi actually drags us into war with Iran it's going to be a disaster."

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Subjunctive posted:

yeah, the move for Israel if they were half the powerhouse they (want to) believe they are was to publicly wave off the US and other forces to show that they were ready to face Iran alone

(also, while we can have a reasonable debate as to Iran’s ability to control access to heterosexuals of strategic importance, it’s “strait”)

The thing is though Israel *wants* all the international forces involved because they're trying to drag everybody into a wider regional war with Iran. The Gaza genocide is taking too long and has become too unpopular internationally, and Israel is at real risk of having their aid dry up if they keep driving at it. So instead they want to pivot to war with Iran, something that would be much more popular with NATO ghouls and would ensure them an infinite flow of money and guns, as well as soak up most of the media attention while they continued to try and liquidate Gaza on the side.

This is also why I feel like Israel is absolutely going to respond even after Iran and basically everybody else in the world has said "don't loving respond." They know that even if it's 100% Israel's fault that a full on war with Iran starts, ultimately the US will come down on the side of backing Israel.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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OctaMurk posted:

I wonder if America even knows what damage Israel took, feels like the Israelis would conceal all that poo poo from the US too

I mean the US had a huge military presence in the area and planes in the air helping with the intercept so I'd imagine they have a pretty good idea of how successful the attack actually was or not. That said they really don't have any incentive to contradict Israeli propaganda that it was a total failure by Iran and everything was intercepted perfectly, because coming out and saying "no actually a bunch of poo poo got through" makes US military capability look like poo poo since again not only did they have birds in the air helping with the job but most of the interception equipment Israel was deploying itself is US-made.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Ramrod Hotshot posted:

How long before Biden folds and we start a war with Iran

idk but Bibi's gonna find out for us.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Israel assumes - almost certainly correctly - that if an actual shooting war with Iran kicks off then a bunch of western powers including the US will feel obligated to join in on Israel's side; even if it was Israel who started the whole goddamn mess over the objection of the entire rest of the world. This is desirable to Israel because it gives them some cover and distracts from the whole ongoing Gaza genocide thing that's getting really unpopular even with their allies.

The only wrench I could see getting thrown in is if Russia and/or China went to the US and said "hey assholes if this thing happens and you jump in on Israel's side, we're jumping in on Iran's side." That maybe convinces us to stay out of any offensive operations and just stick to the "ironclad defense of Israel" thing.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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lmao

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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lol

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Again stuff like this shows just how effective the Iran attack was. The only reason Israel is showing some restraint is because all their allies are demanding it, and the only reason those allies are demanding it is because Iran's attack actually spooked them. Iran has now made it officially known they are done loving around and will go to war over Israel's bullshit if they have to. We can sing all day about the 99.99999% missile interception rate or whatever but the political aims of the attack - at least a of now - appear to have been achieved in spades.

Honestly the US looks whipped as hell in all this, lol. They can barely keep Israel on its leash if at all, are bending over backwards to help them anyway even as Israel causes them no end of headache, and are now publicly shirking from a war with Iran. We are an utterly bitchmade paper tiger and it is on full display for the world to see.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Can't see them because I don't have a twitter account but I will assume they are good.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Al-Saqr posted:

also from this it seems like only 2 of israels missiles can reach iran

And of those two it looks only one of them could realistically reach Tehran? Like maybe the Jericho 2 could if you fired it from the NE of the country the but it appears to be at the extreme edge of its operational range.

ex post facho posted:

Indiatwitter is very upset about....Kashmir lol

:lol::lol::lol:

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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ScootsMcSkirt posted:

whatever happened with that dock that america was supposed to make to deliver supplies?

im guessing that was all bullshit

It's a US infrastructure project so if it happens at all it'll take an eternity and end up a half-finished bungled mess.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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evilmiera posted:

Israel hasn't listened to the rest of the world for the entire war, why start now?

Some might say ignoring everything your opponents, allies and partners say or do will lead to disaster but I'm sure Israel knows what it's doing.

Israel is gambling the west will just let them continue to be insane freaks rather than risk them get bodyslamed by a dozen perfect regional powers. So far it's been a gamble they've won as Bibi blows through one Biden red line after another and we still keep sending them more bombs to drop on children anyway. I'd like to think dragging us into open war with Iran - particularly during an election year - would actually be a line the US will not cross, but you never know with Genocide Joe.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Al-Saqr posted:

the sight of the masses of palestinians marching to northern gaza returning to their homes wothout a ceasefire and despite every attempt by the israelis to scare them off and that they are by and large unafraid is one of the most moving scenes of the human spirit and bravery and sheer humanity overcoming fascist barbarism i have ever witnessed. god bless the palestinian people, the greatest most brave people on the planet. god bless them. :unsmith:

Yes.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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FormaldehydeSon posted:

There was a good post on here yesterday basically saying how even if every single Iranian drone/missile was intercepted (lol) the knowledge that Iran would have gained on how exactly the western empires interception systems work and response times for any future strikes would have been extremely valuable. Not to mention the extremely unbalanced economic exchange that occurred

And Israel by contrast got gently caress all intel because Iran intentionally conducted the strikes in a way they never would in an actual combat situation, and used nothing but a bunch of old surplus drones/munitions (and even then still apparently blew through the entire Iron Dome's interceptor supply, lmao)

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Didn't it also cost an estimated $1.5B for those interceptions, between the various coalition members?

Yeah one of the repeating gimmicks of modern warfare has been western military hardware being just as or in many cases less effective than stuff 10000x cheaper. Billion dollar tanks getting domed by $19.99 children's drones strapped with semtex, $100k interceptor missiles failing to shoot down literal bottle rockets knocked together in some dude's garage, etc.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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I've got bad news about Zionists.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Justin Tyme posted:

They just like death and hatred for mankind

Yeah it's this, they're just a bunch of misanthropic sad sacks who rubberneck at any kind of human suffering in order to feel alive. They claim to have political beliefs but they don't actually have a coherent ideology beyond "I want everybody who's not me to suffer."

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Owlbear Camus posted:

critical update: according to my kid the obnoxious zionist crybully kid in their 5th grade class got bullied and pressured into being pro-palestine

hmm sounds like bullying works

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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CheetoVonTito posted:

They shot a drat missile aimed deliberately at children, as they played in a playground…then proceeded to shoot and murder a 6 yr old that survived but was in critical condition AFTER they were given permission and promised safe passage.

DTI a million…trillion times

https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1780252222279840036?s=46

https://x.com/stanleycohenlaw/status/1780311024807059568?s=46

There's no hell terrible enough for these vile motherfuckers.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Israel is a country of fanatical foreign occupiers so of course they love the war. They just don't like that in between fulfilling his bloodlust Bibi is a corrupt crybaby who tries to do poo poo like neuter the judiciary because they took one of his toys away.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Cool then they should do it with their own weapons and munitions and money and not the USA's.

Oh what's that, they have none of those things and are totally reliant on foreign aid to slake their bloodlust? Ah well, nevertheless.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Al! posted:

decided to pull up the map and...lol (green is recognizes)



lmao

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:


:psyduck:

What the gently caress kind of deal..? Israel instigated one thing, it's not a compromise for them to do the other thing they want to do.

Israel said unlikely to respond to Iran before end of Passover * US leads 48 countries at UN in condemning Iranian attack * G7 finance chiefs pledge close coordination on Tehran sanctions

Egyptian officials tell a Qatari outlet that the US has accepted Israel’s plan for an operation in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, in return for not carrying out a large strike in Iran in response to Tehran’s unprecedented missile and drone attack.

“The American administration showed acceptance of the plan previously presented by the occupation government regarding the military operation in Rafah, in exchange for not carrying out a large-scale attack against Iran,” an unnamed official tells Al-Araby Al-Jadeed.

The Egyptian officials tells the outlet that preparations are underway so that Egypt can deal with any possible impact of the planned operation.

Four Hamas battalions are believed to be stationed in Rafah along with over a million civilians sheltering there after fleeing fighting in other parts of the Strip. Rafah is also thought to be where Hamas leaders are hidden, possibly along with Israeli hostages.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has several times claimed to have approved plans for a Rafah operation and more recently said that a date has been decided for the launch.

DTI, DTA.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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"Okay fine you can have a little more genocide as long as you agree not to drag us into WWIII."

:fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff::fuckoff:

I say again: there is no hell hot enough, no punishment worse enough, no judgement harsh enough.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Nix Panicus posted:

I wonder to what extent the Iranian attack either depleted Israeli air defense or demonstrated that Israeli air defense was already depleted, enabling these further attacks

Also good for Hezbollah

Didn't it turn out the Iron dome did gently caress all and most of the actual interception was done by US warships parked in the region?

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Speleothing posted:

Nah. You announce that as soon as you've got more than 2 because, as North Korea and Saddam's Iraq proved, having the weapon and proving it is the only way to stay protected against dumb adventures.

Either you try to prove that you're not a threat to "the club" or you absolutely prove that you're a member of it.

Yeah it comes off less as "we'll admit we have nukes" and more "we could start trying to build nukes if we wanted to, don't make us want to."

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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lmao fuckin' nazi rear end country oh wait

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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lmao

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Fast Luck posted:

all the zionists crybullies trying to demonize campus protesters keep talking about how someone was STABBED IN THE EYE at yale but they never post the video for obvious reasons. an article weeping about it described it as "a protester with a flag is seen followed by the student filming saying Ow, ow!" and i was like lol hmm... anyway might've already been posted here but here's the video, it starts halfway in

https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1782153586463445366/video/1

hilarious. mightve been grazed by some fabric as someone walked by not even paying attention to her antics

reenactment of this video basically
https://twitter.com/rafayjalil/status/1753445310834131386

"The eye?"
"...I got better."

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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

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Al-Saqr posted:

that is quite the still frame thumbnail lol

lmao

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