jit bull transpile posted:

untrue. I can't afford first last and security on a new place right now

jit bull transpile posted:

I snuck into computer touching from a childhood of shoplifting to eat and I have the insurmountable pile of debt to prove it. you can gently caress right off with this classist bullshit.

Arcsech posted:

basically dont blame people for not having money in a country designed to bleed you dry at the slightest opportunity

Ciaphas posted:

i have been utterly panicked the last day over exactly this happening, yeah

my insurance lapses tomorrow until i get my COBRA docs so i can go with either that or healthcare.gov and oh my god what if something happens before then or i can't afford it or my retirement reserves run out or or or

ugh

barkbell posted:

that story will always be real because i want it to be real

Share Bear posted:

with my current job i said nothing at all

two weeks after starting, the (former) HR person cornered me a week after i started and said we're not releasing your paycheck until you tell me how much you made at your last job

didnt really care about the consequences at that point so i told em

50% increase job over job, they were kinda pissed

Chopstick Dystopia posted:

I recommend getting so far away as to be on another continent.

Working remote for US tech, from a country with socialised healthcare, while getting American figgies is a sweet deal if you can get it.

ultrafilter posted:

It'd probably be there anyway even if you didn't have clearance.

Poopernickel posted:

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Steve Jorbs posted:

Cool...that sounds sketch as hell. Is there any potential reason for this outside of, "We don't want to hire a candidate from a state that has any worker protections greater than non-existent?"

PIZZA.BAT posted:

yeah ask for the list of states they "can't" consider. most likely it's states with actual worker protections

Achmed Jones posted:

i make my resume in word and export it as a pdf. works for me

buttchugging adderall posted:

they just said that it’s obvious I’m not happy there.

raminasi posted:

i think there’s a shadow employment world out there where nobody is expected to actually do anything productive at any point. this would explain both the guy we interviewed who had 20 years of experience yet refuses to believe that recursion even existed and the various corporate websites i’m sure we’ve all used that have failed to even sniff at basic functionality for years

syntaxrigger posted:

hard same!!

when I was a consultant we had this client where we worked with their devs in modernizing their system. One dev there I think was from South Africa and he somehow got another Indian dev to do all of his work as well as his own work. To this day I am not sure how that dude stayed with the company for years. I have seen tons of free loaders while consulting and agree there is a way to get hired at big calcified siloed orgs where you can coast forever. It shocks me but is probably a feature of capitalism and not a big.

The Fool posted:

the beauty of remote work is that you won’t have to move

asur posted:

It's very common now for the offer to state a dollar value for RSUs that converts to units of stock shortly after you start. I don't know why they didn't always do this since recent grads got to free ride on 9 -12 months of appreciation.

This may be less common, but at my company refreshes are the same as well.

Phobeste posted:

as my friend found out when quitting his design consultancy job paying out pto is in fact only mandated on a state level and some states that may surprise you have no such mandate lol

qirex posted:

our parent company switched us to unlimited pto but instead of paying out what we had accrued california employees still have to use the old reporting system until we run out the balance

Boiled Water posted:

My previous employer, a terrible Danish startup, "forgot" to pay out my remaining PTO and refused to pick up the phone. So I contacted my engineers unions who sicked a lawyer on them and hey presto money appeared in my account.

That's my PTO story thanks for reading.

Poopernickel posted:

Here are some things I've used in the past, which have worked for me:

- Offer to take less RSUs in exchange for higher base salary (I asked for 10% higher salary in exchange for 15% less RSUs, banking on the bet that they won't go public any time soon)

- Say something like "the higher salary helps make this decision a slam-dunk vs my current job", or "the higher salary will help offset the cost-of-living difference" (if you're moving)

- If they won't budge on salary, see if you can get a hiring bonus. Even if a company can't offer you the salary you want, they might be willing to throw in a 10% sign-on bonus or something.

Poopernickel posted:

One thing to be sure about - don't put yourself into an ultimatum situation.

If they say "Unfortunately you're at the top of our salary range" or something like that, respond with "no problem, I understand. Give me a few days to think about it".

Mirthless posted:

I got back-paid eventually but it was pretty rough. if the offers are good, and you can make them better, it might be good to just take the work.

MrMoo posted:

Apparently they couldn't do it and their "job coach" recommended against doing it.

Osmosisch posted:

I wish there was more EU talk because I'm currently browsing for a new job and the salaries in the Netherlands at least are extremely not at the levels discussed itt.

Like, I'm a senior fullstack guy and the range seems to hover around 60k for a 40hr position, which is a bummer because that's already what I'm making and I was sneakily expecting to come out ahead after a move.

Luxury problems though, not like i actually need more money.

TheFluff posted:

I am also a senior fullstack guy, although in Stockholm, not the Netherlands. I get 60k SEK/month plus some monopoly money stock options (company isn't public). That's about 82k USD/year base at current exchange rates; then I pay a bit over 30% of that in tax. The company is headquartered in Stockholm but also has a sizeable Palo Alto office, and my team is split across these two locations with the hiring manager in the US, so I suspect that drags the salaries up a bit. I got the impression when I was hired that I could probably have made out with even more money if I hadn't named a number first. Still I'm very happy with this, it's a shitton of money by my reckoning. IME a lot of EU companies without much of a US presence are insisting on much lower pay grades but the market is definitely moving upwards pretty quickly.

We're hiring by the way, both in Stockholm and in Palo Alto, and I believe there are also remote-in-the-US and mostly-remote-in-Sweden options available (I myself am planning to go into the office 1-3 days a week in the future). Current headcount is something like 200 people, but you will definitely have heard of the company and I can pretty confidently say that our main product is good. My team is doing a rather mundane enterprise sales platform with some moderately obnoxious technical debt in golang/react/mysql ( ); the code is pretty bad (not terrible) but the people are good and I have good hopes we can turn it around. Other teams I don't know very well, I've only been here a couple of months and I haven't met that many other people yet. We're mostly hiring web peeps right now, both frontend and fullstack, but there are a few other openings on other teams as well. I'd just post a link to our jobs page but I'd prefer to stay a little bit more anonymous than that. PM's are open.

Osmosisch posted:

While this may be true in some places, this is not the case in the Netherlands, FYI, and is not what the trend is generally though nowhere has reached US levels yet. Capitalist hellscape is creeping globally.

Kernel Sanders posted:

a recruiter tried to strong arm me into naming a number by casually dropping this fact. it keeps popping up from my subconscious, usually when I try to fall asleep.

it’s my jerk store moment.

for closure, I did end up taking the job for a decent number and proceeded to tell my new boss how terrible my experience with this recruiter was.

qirex posted:

I just remembered that rms opposed annual raises for fsf employees because he thought if instituted they would eventually earn infinity dollars

CPColin posted:

THERE
ARE
A DECE SIX-AND-A-HALF
FIGGIES!

Kernel Sanders posted:

if you run an llc you (which you really should) you can pay yourself a nice chunk as dividends to a capital gains tax rate.

RokosCockatrice posted:

Offer letter came through yesterday. The figs are v dece but I'm terrified to pull the trigger, I've been working here forever.

Does anyone have any materials about how to leave an abusive relationship?

raminasi posted:

it just means that they're keeping their candidate pipe full until they sign something, same as you should be

Plorkyeran posted:

this might blow your mind but there's a lot of software dev that isn't just plumbing together services

bob dobbs is dead posted:

the great shitfuck purge of microsoft in the mid-2010s

my homie dhall posted:

I'd rather work with a nice enough crypto guy than someone with all the right opinions who is also an rear end in a top hat. imo you're nuts if you would turn down a good candidate just because they buy bitcoin or whatever in their off-time

Doom Mathematic posted:

Teachers should be paid as much as tech workers.

PIZZA.BAT posted:

hobbesmaster posted:

“business analyst” is just the default corporate IC title, it can mean anything