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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I feel like there has been no modern media that understands and synthesizes modern conspiracy the way stuff like xfiles and dues ex managed with 90s conspiracy In those days it really was folklore and you had to put it all together yourself. I recently bought a copy of Behold A Pale Horse and it’s amazing how much X-Files cribbed and reconfigured. They also worked a lot of real history in there that was at the time just a step above folklore. And the spirit of the age was pure paranoia, just everyone stumbling around not knowing what the new grand narrative was going to be while coming to terms with all the horrible poo poo America did in the 20th century. Plus there was that millennial haze making everyone weird.
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Dr. VooDoo posted:If Q is just one long running leftist prank it would be both amazing and scary because we’d see the Qult find excuses as to why clearly those are DEEP STATE agents trying to discredit Q then some actual right wing nut would pick up Qs tripcode and might Direct the Qult to do some very bad poo poo This always happens: look at crop circles. They were demonstrably the work of two guys who documented everything, but they only became more popular once the dudes explained what they’d done. And they were widely believed by ufo nuts to be disinformation.
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Aug 6, 2018 16:32
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TulliusCicero posted:Surprising no one but deranged boomers, 4chan is beginning to claim that Q anon was a massive hoax done on boomer Trump voters for fun. Hopefully it will be reflected in a split between the /pol/ teens and racist boomers who do the nazi marches.
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Aug 6, 2018 16:41
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You know, I really believe that this dude and Scott Adams have pretty even odds of one day begging for forgiveness from a person or people who believe in qanon.
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Aug 7, 2018 14:53
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fishing with the fam posted:The internet is functionally magic to me, so pardon the most likely dumb question. But doesn't the government have the technology and resources to easily track down anyone and everyone who posts as "Q" on pretty much any platform or site? I’m sure the FBI has been watching 4chan since mass shooters have been posting there about their shootings.
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Aug 8, 2018 15:01
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Mr.Unique-Name posted:No, you see, it's different when it's produced by a human body. Like how natural diamonds are completely different and worth so much more than synthetic ones. Marketing? Do the satanists sell it as like part of a destination resort vacation, like diving for your own clams or something?
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Aug 8, 2018 22:12
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This poop is going to kill some people some day, most likely. So just think about how you’re going to reflect back on that if something really ugly happens.
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Aug 10, 2018 04:57
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chitoryu12 posted:Pretty much everything has been insanely obvious though. It's not like Cohen is some master of disguise and manipulation. He looks exactly like Sacha Baron Cohen wearing silly clothes, bad makeup, and putting on a funny accent and makes people do bizarre and offensive things on camera. The only person who would actually fall for one of his tricks is either in on the joke or a complete dunderhead (which, admittedly, every single one of his targets for this one have been). People are much more willing to believe something if it flatters their worldview, especially if their worldview is full of cartoonish oversimplification. That was also the premise to Borat.
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Aug 11, 2018 19:31
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When is Jonny Gosch’s mom going to glom onto this or get drawn in, I wonder?
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Aug 12, 2018 18:16
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chitoryu12 posted:Wasn’t it actually that his partner just waltzed right in while Jones hid in the bushes for hours? That was the weirdo safari journalist Jon Ronson, who says Jones told him he was faking it, but also saw him act like a total lunatic.
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Aug 13, 2018 18:21
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Mister Bates posted:the best part is that occasionally that has actually happened and it inevitably turns out to be some low-rank nobody who did completely mundane work adjacent to something uber-secret and want to try to use that to wring money from the credulous. like, they worked at Area 51 fixing the air conditioning in airplane hangars or whatever and once saw something under a tarp that looked kind of weird so they write a bunch of tell-all books, do interviews on Coast to Coast AM, and go to UFO conventions for the next 20 years, with their own supposed position and role getting inflated with every retelling of the story until 'former USAF lower enlisted mechanic' becomes 'former commander of Nellis Air Force Base' or whatever Actually that guy was a total fraud who ran a mail-order chemical supply business. He made the whole thing up to get conspiracy weirds to buy his dry ice. He ended up claiming that the government erased all traces of his Ph.D. from MIT and gave him the credentials of a middling loser like they were the men in black.
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Aug 24, 2018 23:13
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Why are these morons so gung-ho about a crazy conspiracy when they won everything in real life and have the comparatively gentler fantasy machine of fox news?
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Aug 25, 2018 19:37
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Obama was very shrewd and able to play politics well. It’s just that his 4D chess was drone-striking kids and deporting people.
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Aug 25, 2018 20:49
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Fulchrum posted:More specifically, its using sarcasm to highlight how stupid it is to claim that Obamas goals were to kill children and deport brown people now that we're seeing what Trump is doing. Yet he applied all his savvy and skill toward finding ways of doing those things that didn't upset the apple cart, ie maintaining a collapsing status quo that required those things but which is now imploding into naked oligarchy without the velvet glove.
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Aug 26, 2018 01:45
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Fulchrum posted:What you mean of course is doing those things the absolute least a modern president can. He could have not deported people and he could have not blown up weddings with drones. He chose to do them in a way that was as invisible as possible rather than not doing them. Why draw this false dichotomy between Obama and Trump? That Obama could have been a better president does not mean that Trump was the only alternative to the Obama who was.
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Aug 26, 2018 02:46
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:Guys the revolution has begun, Trump and his team just summarily executed a senator McCain's tumor is the perfect sleeper agent to strike at the Clintons and Bushes during the funeral. The storm is here!
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Aug 26, 2018 02:48
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Sir Tonk posted:lol you can play as ben garrison And it’s from when he was fighting being called a nazi instead of embracing it.
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Aug 30, 2018 03:08
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Mantis42 posted:"Greetings. My name is Q. If my calculations are correct, you should be receiving this transmission in the year 2018 AD. It amuses me that you used to calculate your dates in relation to the life of an ancient man. You see, we have a slightly different timescale. But to make things simple, I am writing from the year 49,170 AD." What is this meme from? Why do I get Lal’s picture when I search it?
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Sep 1, 2018 00:45
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When did Q go from describing things the president was doing to doing heroic things all by himself? What’s his stated goal, if any?
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Sep 1, 2018 12:58
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chitoryu12 posted:I hope you don’t mind me stealing this idea for a post-apocalyptic dystopia I suddenly want to write. Too late: 
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Sep 1, 2018 18:39
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What’s Clinton been doing since the election? Some internal dnc fundraising and that’s all, right? I think she’s really gone this time.
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Sep 3, 2018 16:14
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The Hillaryis44 people have to be all-in on Q poo poo by now if they’re still around, right?
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Sep 3, 2018 21:23
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Ague Proof posted:
Black magic vomit, just like how Papa Shango disqualified Hulk Hogan at Wrestlemania!
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Sep 3, 2018 21:52
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What’s the hollywood illusion? I’m sure it’s something antisemitic, but what do they think has been shattered?
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Sep 3, 2018 21:55
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EXTRA EXTRA! KISSINGER STEALS CANDY FROM BABY!!
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Sep 3, 2018 23:25
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They’re already violent, so it’s not a huge stretch to imagine that they will become more violent.
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Sep 5, 2018 13:59
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BiggerBoat posted:These people sound like Adam West and Burt Ward working out a Riddler puzzle. “Chicago very unsafe...MURDERS there. Will restore ORDER.’ Golly, what could he mean? Chicago...of course! He means black people!” “Right chum, he’s no doubt preparing kill squads right now. Get out hoods!”
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Sep 11, 2018 12:57
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When are they going to start going into space? I feel like there have to be space vessels and maybe greys at some point.
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Sep 12, 2018 12:42
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I recently got a copy of William Cooper’s Behold a Pale Horse and yikes, conspiracy theory people have always been extremely bigoted. It has the full text of the protocols of the elders of zion right in the middle with nothing changed or added.
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Sep 12, 2018 12:49
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TulliusCicero posted:I hate that a mediocre Scifi movie with absolutely poo poo sequels has inspired an entire waste barge of terrible right wing ideas and conspiracy cranks for the next two loving decades. Pretty cool that white supremacists coopted a story about a black man leading a bunch of other black people in liberating themselves from slavery by exposing false consciousness enforced by a bunch of white men in suits. And only the one white guy is really slow at figuring it out.
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Sep 13, 2018 12:11
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:
That was Dan Olson, whose videos are so good that more people should watch them. He’s broken genuine ground understanding the political economy of youtube.
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Sep 14, 2018 00:21
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Are there still ufo people out there in appreciable numbers? Late 70s to mid-90s they were organized and getting tons of media attention, but they kind of seem to have withered away in a hurry following the advent of hd phone cameras and 9/11. I’m guessing phone cameras made it harder to believe every blurry double exposure was a ufo and that the last vestiges of the post-watergate/pentagon papers mood were extinguished in a hurry by noted war president George Bush Jr’s patriotism party. Or at least transformed into a purely earthly 9/11 obsession. EDIT: I remember hearing that ufo crank Bud Hopkins died about 5 years ago, and I was amazed I hadn’t heard anything from him since like 97 or 98. He used to be on tv at least a few times a year.
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Sep 15, 2018 21:03
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I had noticed a while ago that ufo abduction stories had shifted into being more about demonic influence rather than just science fiction rape. It’s weird but I guess not surprising given the succubus folk tradition it partially grew out of.
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Sep 16, 2018 02:03
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What will be even funnier is how once he’s out of power they will dismiss him as a RINO cuck and say he was never their guy and now president Roy Moore/Joe Arpio will finally cleanse the inner cities
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Sep 16, 2018 18:33
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The Q people are probably much more likely to fit into the authoritarian personality type than a random sample of voters.
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Sep 16, 2018 21:07
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It’s like Dees without the antisemitism. Unless that’s covered by the text on the map behind him.
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Sep 18, 2018 16:53
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:I know in universe the games exist and are released by the templars who bought activision but tell the story of how bad the templars are so I don't even know what that is supposed to be. It’s just like how the evil molester cabal has to put clues to their vile deeds into public discourse!
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Sep 18, 2018 19:52
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I feel like the kind of boomer into Q poo poo was antisemitic long before Q happened.
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Sep 23, 2018 23:50
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Helsing posted:I recently saw a talk that was put up on youtube by some skeptics group where the speaker goes into some detail to demonstrate how practically every common science fiction urban legend from the last 100 years is an almost literal reproduction of some contemporary pop culture, especially film. The modern Lock Ness Monster stuff came out right around the time King Kong (with its famous stop motion dinosaurs) got big, the Chupacabra has a remarkable resemblance to the alien from Species, the first reports of flying saucers were preceded by numerous sci fi magazine covers featuring disc and saucer shaped alien vessels, the Reptilian theory is a very close recreation of the plotline from the 1980s miniseries V, ancient astronaut theory is lifted almost wholesale from the writings of Lovecraft, etc. It’s also a reciprocal relationship to some degree, insofar as tv and movies pick up on the same cultural trends and anxieties that drive the conspiracy lore. 70s movies and tv are full of mysterious abductions and bodily violations of unconscious or semiconscious subjects (Futurewold, for instance, or Rosemary’s Baby), and also full of powerful secret cabals who do nefarious things. Relatively few dramatize alien abductions directly, but the paranoia is there and the emotional tenor is there. And it was in real life too. And then there are movies that take from the weird culture that’s already there, like the greys in Close Encounters, which then drives the formation of future weird culture.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:To me 8chan is the most fascinating/baffling/confusing/amazing part of all this, really. The heart of the conspiracy is a website so full of pedophiles that even 4chan coulnd't tolerate them. It's like a group of Neo-Nazis basing themselves in an active Synagogue. Just like in the 80s when these boomer jims were young, they don’t care about actual pedophiles but only pedophiles who represent the platonic ideal of what they engage in spiritual warfare against without having to actually do anything. The satanic panic didn’t give a poo poo about real pedophiles either: they considered kids getting raped by family or their coach or whoever (real pedophilia) trivial in comparison to satan-controlled mass pedophilia used to weaken the power of god through arcane rituals.
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