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What an absolute douchebag e: 1228 sees the beginning of the Sixth Crusade to reclaim Jerusalem Rarity fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Apr 30, 2018 |
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XMNN posted:like this is a valid point for wage slaves doing morally dubious work because the alternative is starving to death on the streets, but if "resigning" just means going back to earning £60k or whatever and being on the news a bit less often, then lol That’s not how they are seeing it. Use some loving empathy and imagine you’re a smug Tory MP from an upper middle class family. Privileged fucker, yeah? Doing morally dubious work, defo. Then you get into cabinet and interact for first time with the real 1% and realise v fast that your decadent salary of GBP60k that people are lining up to tell you you are a oval office for having is a moderate wage slave level. Think about it: you’ve been raised to believe the British Parliament is a Very Important Thing, but you get paid like a senior receptionist at Morgan Stanley. Then you’re supposed to hold the CEO of Morgan Stanley to account on your select committee. And he’s sitting there trying to restrain the laughter. System needs a total reset.
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Apr 30, 2018 19:51
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ThomasPaine posted:Chinese people seem to get comparatively little racist abuse from what I can tell. Chinatowns are everywhere and they're super obvious (the one in Newcastle has a huge Chinese gate for example), loads of the Chinese population speaks little to no English, non-Chinese owned local businesses frequented by Chinese people have signs etc in Chinese for them with Chinese speaking staff...and yet no one bats an eyelid. One tiny minaret on a mosque however and all the gammons are yelling about Londonistan. I have always found this weird contrast between two comparably insular ethnic communities pretty strange. That seems to be the case all the way down to the local level. I can think of a couple of reasons this might be but they all start veering dangerously into Kipper reductionist thinking, so I'll stick instead to the idea that the time of greatest South Asian migration into the UK (from the Ugandan expulsions through to the Bangladeshi War of Independence and the floods of the late 70s) coincided with a massive upheaval in UK politics generally, so there was certainly opportunity, and god knows motive, for those communities to get involved in local politics.
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Apr 30, 2018 19:54
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I still my old idea of paying MPs double their current wage or more, and then mandatory life sentences without parole if they get as much as a penny sweet from another individual or organisation - for everyone involved on both sides - could be reworked into something
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Apr 30, 2018 19:55
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Beefeater1980 posted:That’s not how they are seeing it. Use some loving empathy and imagine you’re a smug Tory MP from an upper middle class family. Privileged fucker, yeah? Doing morally dubious work, defo. Basic salary for an MP is 77k, FYI. Also a free house and subsidised meals and booze.
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Apr 30, 2018 19:56
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lmao² https://twitter.com/BBCParliament/status/991024762779525122 this was the nightmare scenario for the brexiteers hahahaha
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Apr 30, 2018 19:58
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Apr 30, 2018 20:02
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Having watched May answering questions from journalists on the news earlier, she doesn't seemed to have learned any strategies for coping with difficult questions. Look terrified, gurn and tell barefaced lies/change the subject.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:05
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Let her be clear
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Apr 30, 2018 20:10
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ThomasPaine posted:Chinese people seem to get comparatively little racist abuse from what I can tell. Chinatowns are everywhere and they're super obvious (the one in Newcastle has a huge Chinese gate for example), loads of the Chinese population speaks little to no English, non-Chinese owned local businesses frequented by Chinese people have signs etc in Chinese for them with Chinese speaking staff...and yet no one bats an eyelid. One tiny minaret on a mosque however and all the gammons are yelling about Londonistan. I have always found this weird contrast between two comparably insular ethnic communities pretty strange. Thinking about it this "let's build a post-Brexit immigration system" YouGov map is a pretty good (depressing) indicator of how accepted given ethnicities are:  Going by that the Irish will be fine, though I guess it does also show how affected by recent trends it is (the survey was done right after Erdogans post-coup crackdown, when it was all over the news).
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Apr 30, 2018 20:14
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Thanks Ants posted:Let her be clear *twitch* BUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS *gurn* Private Speech posted:Thinking about it this "let's build a post-Brexit immigration system" YouGov map is a pretty good (depressing) indicator of how accepted given ethnicities are: What's with all the Turk hate? BoJo being part Turkish? biglads fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Apr 30, 2018 |
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Apr 30, 2018 20:15
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Josef bugman posted:I didn't get the role at the big London Museum. Didn't want this to get missed, well done on getting that far at least dude! Next time you'll be so much better prepared 
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Apr 30, 2018 20:16
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biglads posted:*twitch* BUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS *gurn* 1st August 2016: Turkey coup attempt: Erdogan 'snatch squad' soldiers captured It quickly went downhill for Turkey from there.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:19
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Basic salary for an MP is 77k, FYI. Also a free house and subsidised meals and booze. Is this supposed to be a substantive difference vs GBP 60k? This poo poo goes in bands: Struggling to survive Fixed that Fixed and comfortable Wealthy Leisure class 60 and 77 are both at the low end of Fixed and comfortable. By contrast, basic salary at a decent NYC law firm as of today is USD 180k which is approximately 2x what Amber Rudd gets paid for being a terrible, spineless Home Secretary and is a metric fuckton more than any public servant gets without having demonstrated how badly they can gently caress up. By memory, investment banks start lower but scale up fast. So being aware of all this I’m not sure why we don’t pay our public servants a ton more because there is a very well established link between corruption and underpaying the people who make the system work.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:19
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biglads posted:*twitch* BUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS *gurn* I would not be shocked to discover that the thumbs are still hung up on the crusades.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:20
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Private Speech posted:1st August 2016: Sadly I think it's more likely to be "Turkey are joining the EU so we better brexit quick before they all come over here" than "Gosh, that Erdogan seems quite the illiberal type"
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Apr 30, 2018 20:21
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Beefeater1980 posted:Is this supposed to be a substantive difference vs GBP 60k? This poo poo goes in bands: Cabinet members get at least 140k (for some reason parliament.uk doesn't have numbers since 2010 -  - but the allowance was 70k even then. Plus once you're Home Secretary you basically have zero outgoings whatsoever.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:24
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jabby posted:https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/991014822371196928 This was on ITV during the evening news tonight. In full instead of any adverts. Great time to show it!
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Apr 30, 2018 20:24
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biglads posted:Sadly I think it's more likely to be "Turkey are joining the EU so we better brexit quick before they all come over here" than "Gosh, that Erdogan seems quite the illiberal type" Fair enough, but I remember when the map was published by YouGov, and back then I wasn't really surprised about the Turkish hate, because the top 3 BBC headlines at the time were about the "crisis in Turkey" and how they are jailing all the good atheist folks and how horrible islamists they are being and all.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:24
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biglads posted:*twitch* BUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS *gurn* It's no coincidence that all the "less immigration" countries are the ones who have large and visible communities in this country already (and are also non-white ofc).
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Apr 30, 2018 20:24
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Private Speech posted:Thinking about it this "let's build a post-Brexit immigration system" YouGov map is a pretty good (depressing) indicator of how accepted given ethnicities are: Of course, 'American' isn't an ethnicity, for example. A lot of the thumbs who are generically fine with Americans immigrating are probably much, much less fine with my American immigrant wife in particular.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:25
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biglads posted:*twitch* BUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS *gurn* Yeah Turkey was the bogeyman all the more ah colourful Leave materials hyperventilated over, because they're joining the EU not
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Apr 30, 2018 20:25
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If we don't leave the EU, then Turkey will join it, and 75 million people will be free to come over here. That's what my mate Nige said.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:26
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I can't get enough of are Dan
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Was worried this account was dead, glad to see it's still going.biglads posted:Sadly I think it's more likely to be "Turkey are joining the EU so we better brexit quick before they all come over here" than "Gosh, that Erdogan seems quite the illiberal type" 
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Apr 30, 2018 20:26
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biglads posted:*twitch* BUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS *gurn* a) Muslims b) news stories about erdogan c) comparatively lots of coverage about Turkish and Kurdish organised crime and street gangs in the UK, who have a habit of batting above their weight
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Apr 30, 2018 20:27
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ukle posted:It is. double cigarette ration and comfortable blindfolds for all good aristos
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Apr 30, 2018 20:27
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learnincurve posted:I would not be shocked to discover that the thumbs are still hung up on the crusades. There's a racist wanker where I work who keeps going on to the Turkish lady about Constantinople and I'm pretty sure the only reason she hasn't reported him is that she clearly has no idea what the gently caress he's on about.
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Apr 30, 2018 20:28
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Beefeater1980 posted:By contrast, basic salary at a decent NYC law firm as of today is USD 180k which is approximately 2x what Amber Rudd gets paid for being a terrible, spineless Home Secretary and is a metric fuckton more than any public servant gets without having demonstrated how badly they can gently caress up. I agree that public servants should be paid more, but for some reason the general public don't seem to agree that working for the government is as valuable as working for a private firm, and to be fair the optics of MPs paying themselves more when the NHS is being starved of cash won't help them win reelection
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Apr 30, 2018 20:35
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spectralent posted:There's a racist wanker where I work who keeps going on to the Turkish lady about Constantinople and I'm pretty sure the only reason she hasn't reported him is that she clearly has no idea what the gently caress he's on about. I work with a Greek guy and discuss Macedonia/FYROM with him because I love BalkanChat. I hope that doesn't make me a racist 
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Apr 30, 2018 20:36
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HJB posted:If we don't leave the EU, then Turkey will join it, and 75 million people will be free to come over here. That's what my mate Nige said. Not just free to come here, will come here. All of them. At the same time.
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Apr 30, 2018 21:04
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On the one hand, lol at Woodcock being suspended. On the other hand any by-election triggered by the fallout of this will likely see that constituency go Tory, unless they put up a decent local candidate preferably with strong ties to the shipyard. Source: I lived there for 30 years.
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Apr 30, 2018 21:05
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Bacon Terrorist posted:On the one hand, lol at Woodcock being suspended. On the other hand any by-election triggered by the fallout of this will likely see that constituency go Tory, unless they put up a decent local candidate preferably with strong ties to the shipyard. At least the Tory won't bang on about how much of a nazi Corbyn is with the entire press rushing to get their microphone closest to him.
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Apr 30, 2018 21:06
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spectralent posted:There's a racist wanker where I work who keeps going on to the Turkish lady about Constantinople and I'm pretty sure the only reason she hasn't reported him is that she clearly has no idea what the gently caress he's on about. It's Istanbul not Constantinople https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wcze7EGorOk
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Apr 30, 2018 21:09
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Bacon Terrorist posted:On the one hand, lol at Woodcock being suspended. On the other hand any by-election triggered by the fallout of this will likely see that constituency go Tory, unless they put up a decent local candidate preferably with strong ties to the shipyard. I strongly doubt it would result in a by-election. Even if he got expelled Woodcock would hang on as an independent just to dig at Corbyn, and then probably run again just to split the Labour vote. He's a spiteful arsehole. On the positive side, an actual Tory MP would not be as damaging to Labour as Woodcock is.
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Apr 30, 2018 21:09
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True but it’s another traditional safe seat lost (the majority has been shrinking under Woodcock though I actually cited him as my reason for cancelling my party membership) which the press will fall over themselves to fling at JC, unfortunately I don’t think it would swing back under his leadership if it does fall because ‘OMG THE ALMIGHTY SHIPYARD AND TRIDENT MUST PROTECT JOBS AT ALL COSTS DESPITE BEING THE POOREST WARD IN THE COUNTRY’. Same voters were fully behind Brexit despite being one of the most isolated non-diverse communities in the country.
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Apr 30, 2018 21:15
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Tesseraction posted:At least the Tory won't bang on about how much of a nazi Corbyn is with the entire press rushing to get their microphone closest to him.
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Apr 30, 2018 21:15
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kustomkarkommando posted:batting above their weight 
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Apr 30, 2018 21:16
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Just going to leave this right here  https://youtu.be/cP47HjGOsuA
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Ikwaylx posted:Just going to leave this right here 
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Guavanaut posted:Everyone starts off trying to do the titration power stance. Then usually switches for good reason unless they've been doing their groin exercises. I think I settled for leaning sideways on the bench and doing it that way. What they should make is cable stayed burette stands.
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