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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Happy International Workers' Day thread comrades! :ussr:

Okay, so the massive thing for the start of this month is the culmination of the Hostile Environment/Windrush scandal in the resignation of the now-former Home Secretary and human shield Amber Rudd.
The Hostile Environment was a policy under the last Home Secretary (and current PM) Theresa May to make life as poo poo as possible for undocumented migrants in the UK.
As pretty much anyone could have told you, this didn't affect the terrorists and gangmasters we were told it would, and fell on the easiest targets.
This eventually led to the targeting of the Windrush Generation, people from the British West Indies who came to live in mainland Britain back when the British West Indies still existed.
They don't have much in the way of documentation, because being British Subjects they didn't need any until the Immigration Acts defining British citizenship came along later. By that stage most of the former colonies had become independent or part of their own federations, so the Windrush people weren't citizens of there either.
So there was an outrage about the government harassing a bunch of old African-Caribbean folks who had spent their entire lives in the UK, and Theresa May was punished lol no, Amber Rudd took the fall and now the new Home Secretary is an eggman who loves to read Ayn Rand, but can't quote it to his wife because she threatened to leave if he did.





Also Alex Jones (not the one from The One Show) and the usual crew are mad that he's a Pakistani Muslim, despite the fact that he's from Lancashire and, like most Rand fanboys, a 'culturally Christian atheist'.
(They mean he is not white and has an Asian name :ssh:)

Also thanks learnincurve for a kind offer for anyone affected by PIP:

learnincurve posted:

If someone wants to add that people can PM me about help with PIP to the thread’s OP then please feel free to do so.

The Whole Carton:

2018
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UKMT Feb 18 - Goverment Clowns DTF UKMT February 2018 - Auntie May's Sloppy Wet Kiss Day of the Two Threads!
UKMT January 2018 - ++Knighthood for Loser Clegg++

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BYOB: UKMT

Goo Goo G'Joob (podcasts)
Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive.
Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out.
We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The UKMT-iest of Podcasts.
Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts.
Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out.
Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good.
Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik
Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news.
Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests.
Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests.
[Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative.
Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen.

Green Eggs & Ham (literature)
Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh
Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy
At The Café – Malatesta
The Method of Freedom – Malatesta
In Praise of Idleness – Russell
Political Ideals – Russell
Declaration – Hardt and Negri
Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo
God and the State – Bakunin
The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin
Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin
Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman
Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg
Violence – Slavoj Zizek
Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber
Flat Earth News - Nick Davies
Hack Attack - Nick Davies
Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin
Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin
Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons

Goon CLP Register (thanks feedmegin)

quote:

I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land.

Bexleyheath and Crayford - Rolled Cabbage
Bristol East - Luxury Tent Carpet
Bristol West - mfcrocker, Barry Foster, Pistol_Pete
Broxtowe - MikeCrotch
Cotswolds (yes, we do have one) - Yvonmukluk
Cunninghame North/South - mehall ('s partner)
Dulwich and West Norwood - maugrim
Edinburgh Central (s?) - Autonomous Monster
Edinburgh Central, Ipswich - Lord of the Llamas
Enfield Southgate - spiderbot
Glasgow Southside/Central - Niric
Havant - Last Emperor
Hertford and Stortford - Brovine
Hyndburn - Kegluneq
Leeds North East - Irving Washington
Loughborough - feedmegin
Manchester Central - Jakabite
Northampton - superLINUS
North-East Somerset (the long-shot campaign to unseat Jacob Rees-Mogg) - Darth Walrus
Oxford East - SpaceCommie
Salisbury (and Salisbury Momentum, which is now a thing that actually exists) - Wolfsbane
SE Cambridgeshire - Stoic Fnord
Sheffield south east - Cast_no_shadow
Southampton (Test) - waffle, Nova88
St Austell & Newquay - Oh dear me
Stockport Central - Taear
Swansea West - Borrovan

The Effortpost's Graveyard (thanks goddamnedtwisto) - Collected UKMT Effortposts. Many thanks to the contributing posters.

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#ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix).

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 18:46 on May 1, 2018

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sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Egg

Edison was a dick
Apr 3, 2010

direct current :roboluv: only
https://youtu.be/E6awC_hlpUc

The tracks of the Labour political broadcasts are being released as charity singles.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Mayday for May and There's Hell to Pay

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


There is an actual fascist on the BBC News Channel and BBC 2 right now. I couldn't watch because I had a bus to catch but he was involved in Britain First and is now apparently based in Serbia and involved in some group called Knights Templar International.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
i am glad to be part of the UKMT Revisionist Party, unlike those splitters in the Orthodox April UKMT

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

forkboy84 posted:

There is an actual fascist on the BBC News Channel and BBC 2 right now. I couldn't watch because I had a bus to catch but he was involved in Britain First and is now apparently based in Serbia and involved in some group called Knights Templar International.

Hmm. Need to read through my old issues of Hope Not Hate, but I'm pretty sure that's the group that Nick Griffin is part of and has been doing a lot of work in Hungary. That organisation has direct ties to the Syrian government, if so.

Zephirus
May 18, 2004

BRRRR......CHK

MikeCrotch posted:

i am glad to be part of the UKMT Revisionist Party, unlike those splitters in the Orthodox April UKMT

No Surrender, No Surrender, No Surrender to the April Thread

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Guavanaut posted:

There was a relevant piece about this in yesterday's MS. Yeah, systemically it might be easier for older/whiter/manlier people, but poo poo still sucks for a bunch of Boomers due to austerity and land monopoly. 80% of wealth might be concentrated in the olds, but 80% of that is concentrated in 20% of the olds, and I can't help but think that the liberal/soft-left media attempts to frame this as a generational issue are deflecting. If it was purely generational then the Millennials would just need to awaiting their inheritance, rather than man the barricades. NWBTCW &c.

I'd still argue that it is largely a generational issue, because the boomers have been indoctrinated to believe that everything is down to hard work and personal responsibility, that the rich are job creators who deserve what they have, etc. Someone on my Facebook feed posted a video about a homeless 19 year old who wanted to get a job and a home, but was literally barred by society because he had no ID, bank account or anything else that society dictates you have, and couldn't get any one of those things due to not having the others. The response from a boomer? "Can't blame society, it must just be bad parenting, he needs to take responsibility for himself".

The generational wealth inequality could be dealt with more easily, except that boomers have had their brains poisoned for decades, and as we're seeing with the polls, that is as much a barrier to change as anything.

Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 09:56 on May 1, 2018

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

old article but relevant given he's currently bloviating on BBCR4:
https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/989406060300685312

https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/990181329328275456

https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/990132298065612800

And more contemporaneously https://twitter.com/adampayne26/status/991217632169857025

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
Liam Fox is apparently stirring poo poo. Implied he would resign if May negotiates with the Lords on the customs union, and then refused to deny that she was a weak leader when asked.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
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forkboy84 posted:

There is an actual fascist on the BBC News Channel and BBC 2 right now. I couldn't watch because I had a bus to catch but he was involved in Britain First and is now apparently based in Serbia and involved in some group called Knights Templar International.

It's incredibly annoying that you now have to google the cryptic poo poo you find on stickers in town centres to find out whether it's some fascist mysticism, a weird European football thing, or both.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I'd still argue that it is largely a generational issue, because the boomers have been indoctrinated to believe that everything is down to hard work and personal responsibility, that the rich are job creators who deserve what they have, etc. Someone on my Facebook feed posted a video about a homeless 19 year old who wanted to get a job and a home, but was literally barred by society because he had no ID, bank account or anything else that society dictates you have, and couldn't get any one of those things due to not having the others. The response from a boomer? "Can't blame society, it must just be bad parenting, he needs to take responsibility for himself".

The generational wealth inequality could be dealt with much more easily, except that bombers have had their brains poisoned for decades, and as we're seeing with the polls, that is as much a barrier to change as anything.

This isn't a boomer thing though, there are plenty of young people who also buy into the idea that there are no such things as systemic issues and everything is down to personal effort. Just more Boomers believe that because more of them have actively profited from that societal framework.

That's the point though - this shouldn't be looked at as a generational thing but a function of who controls capital regardless of age.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Egg Balls

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Tesseraction posted:

Hmm. Need to read through my old issues of Hope Not Hate, but I'm pretty sure that's the group that Nick Griffin is part of and has been doing a lot of work in Hungary. That organisation has direct ties to the Syrian government, if so.

Its meant to be run by Jim Dowson, the perennial far right oval office

ukle
Nov 28, 2005

a pipe smoking dog posted:

Liam Fox is apparently stirring poo poo. Implied he would resign if May negotiates with the Lords on the customs union, and then refused to deny that she was a weak leader when asked.

The hard Brexiter's are starting their movements it seems. They know after the Lords votes on the CU and forcing a vote on the final deal means only a soft brexit or no brexit will pass the houses, so its either they force a ultra hard Brexit or they lose. Longer they play the game the more likely a ultra hard brexit won't happen, as the public will see more and more that its a loving stupid idea given we have 0 deals and the country would likely become a basket case within a week.

Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



ukle posted:

The hard Brexiter's are starting their movements it seems. They know after the Lords votes on the CU and forcing a vote on the final deal means only a soft brexit or no brexit will pass the houses, so its either they force a ultra hard Brexit or they lose. Longer they play the game the more likely a ultra hard brexit won't happen, as the public will see more and more that its a loving stupid idea given we have 0 deals and the country would likely become a basket case within a week.

Do you have the time
To negotiate French wine?
And all the other trade deals
All at once?

I am one of those.
All or nothing leave fools.
Delusional to the bone,
no doubt about it.

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
Happy May Day comrades

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Red Oktober posted:

Do you have the time
To negotiate French wine?
And all the other trade deals
All at once?

I am one of those.
All or nothing leave fools.
Delusional to the bone,
no doubt about it.
Am I just paranoid?
Or am I just owned


ukle posted:

The hard Brexiter's are starting their movements it seems.
That's how you get hemorrhoids.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

kustomkarkommando posted:

Its meant to be run by Jim Dowson, the perennial far right oval office

Aha, it IS that group then:

quote:

Dowson relocated to Budapest, Hungary, and has been observed in several eastern European countries with his latest venture, the Knights Templar International (KTI), along with the former BNP leader Nick Griffin and a Hungarian anti-abortion campaigner Imre Teglasy. Dowson's last sighting, according to the Daily Mirror, was on the Turkey-Bulgaria border with the KTI supplying equipment to a vigilante paramilitary group, the Shipka Bulgarian National Movement, to hunt down asylum seekers. Dowson was subsequently reported as having developed close links with Russian extremist Aleksandr Dugin, with Dugin aiding Dowson in the establishment of a Belgrade office for his internet activity in support of the "alt-right".

In May 2017, it was reported by Hope not Hate that Dowson had been stopped from entering Hungary after the Hungarian Immigration Authority declared him an "undesirable individual" and barred him from entering the country in future. The move came as part of a wider crackdown by the Ministry of Interior on far-right individuals from across Europe using the country as their base, after Horst Mahler had been arrested trying to escape charges of Holocaust denial in Germany by entering Hungary.

The presence of Dugin could explain the Syrian financial ties - and Griffins overt anti-interventionism with regards to Assad. That and the standard Nazi fare of "gently caress 'em if they're far enough away"

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
If you’re a teacher or looking to apply for a teaching job, knock a good £500-600 off your take home pay because you’ll be using it to subsidise all the kids in your class to stop them starving.

Even better, when you take those kids to other schools you can compare how malnourished they are, nothing says modernity like kids shorter than their parents with brittle bones

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/may/01/teachers-buy-children-food-clothes-mattress-funerals-child-poverty

Ignore the funerals issue because every response from government will be that they’ve rightfully closed that particular problem.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




Not a big fan of May personally

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Seems hepatitis-finder general got suspended: https://twitter.com/jessbrammar/status/991244036718592000

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
So what’s the hepatitis thing a dogwhistle for?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~
Hi thread despite efforts by the OP to deport me to CSPAM I am still here and will bring down this forum's moderators.

Edison was a dick posted:

https://youtu.be/E6awC_hlpUc

The tracks of the Labour political broadcasts are being released as charity singles.

Yesss, been wanting this ever since the first video dropped

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Darth Walrus posted:

So what’s the hepatitis thing a dogwhistle for?

Apparently there was an outbreak of it at one of the local schools, something a Labour councillor drew attention to, which enraged the Tory-run council.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

guess you can put humpty dumpty together again if this is true https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/991224193298681856

although they appear to have left out the brain

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003
Another day, another round of being baffled that the UK is barely ticking over.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

lol it was just Jim Dowson on the BBC

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Darth Walrus posted:

So what’s the hepatitis thing a dogwhistle for?


In reality, it was Thatcher and Major and the meter and disconnect (and privatize and increase unit prices) policy for water supplies that led to the biggest increases in hepatitis cases in the UK in modern history, but why blame neoliberal policy when you can blame immigrant communities.

I bet in more recent history the hostile environment of "look foreign? better be afraid of going to the doctors" has helped a whole bunch too.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Tesseraction posted:

guess you can put humpty dumpty together again if this is true https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/991224193298681856

although they appear to have left out the brain

Mrs Javid sounds savage af, can we have her as Home Sec?

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

I'm not a 100% sure a candidate called Kamran Razzaq was whipping up anti-Asian hysteria

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




I had a very vivid dream last night where Jeremy Corbyn was in my kitchen cooking me cauliflower cheese for dinner.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

kustomkarkommando posted:

I'm not a 100% sure a candidate called Kamran Razzaq was whipping up anti-Asian hysteria
Remember they're first and foremost a Tory. I've heard enough bile from second generation Asian people about how filthy people fresh off the boats are and how they poo poo in kitchenware.

Tories are banking on unawareness of this kind of prejudice to claim that they can't have a racist deportation policy now that they have Asian Bus Son as Home Secretary.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Total Meatlove posted:

If you’re a teacher or looking to apply for a teaching job, knock a good £500-600 off your take home pay because you’ll be using it to subsidise all the kids in your class to stop them starving.

Even better, when you take those kids to other schools you can compare how malnourished they are, nothing says modernity like kids shorter than their parents with brittle bones

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2018/may/01/teachers-buy-children-food-clothes-mattress-funerals-child-poverty

Ignore the funerals issue because every response from government will be that they’ve rightfully closed that particular problem.

jfc

Luxury Tent Carpet
Feb 13, 2005

I hunted the Orphan of Kos and all I got was this stupid t-shirt
in much the same way a dog cant recognise it's own reflection

https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/990966191719178246

e:
I was horrified by the schools story until I read the comments and was suitably reassured!

:discourse:

Luxury Tent Carpet fucked around with this message at 11:08 on May 1, 2018

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

ukle posted:

The hard Brexiter's are starting their movements it seems. They know after the Lords votes on the CU and forcing a vote on the final deal means only a soft brexit or no brexit will pass the houses, so its either they force a ultra hard Brexit or they lose. Longer they play the game the more likely a ultra hard brexit won't happen, as the public will see more and more that its a loving stupid idea given we have 0 deals and the country would likely become a basket case within a week.

How would they possibly force it though? It's not like any of them has the clout for putting down a hard border in Ireland.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I thought the singing sainsbury's boss was something.

bossman and share holder of giant company on singing 'we're in the money' posted:

"It was an unfortunate choice of song, from the musical 42nd Street which I saw last year and I apologise if I have offended anyone."

He's not an MP whose done dodgy deals, not broken any laws(maybe) and is doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing and singing a little light hearted song that happens to describe what he is doing, so why apologise? Its almost as if he does, at the same time realise the whole setup is a total sham, that a situation where he employs a huge number of people on the smallest wage he can to reap the most money he can from as many of the rest of the people as he can whilst putting people out of work and business all so he and a tiny select few can be unbelievably filthy wealthy is something offensive when made light of. Like maybe, its a bad thing and everyone knows it is but... nah never mind.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Captain Fargle posted:

How would they possibly force it though? It's not like any of them has the clout for putting down a hard border in Ireland.

They can't, but every effort they make to do so will further kneecap any hope of a halfway sane Brexit.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

kustomkarkommando posted:

I'm not a 100% sure a candidate called Kamran Razzaq was whipping up anti-Asian hysteria

If you're going by names, the leaflet in question was made by the less ethnically-diverse-sounding Roger Spencer, according to its mandated blurb.

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