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Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Oh boy, I look forward to seeing which candidate Our Portuguese Centre-Right apparatus chooses as the Sane, Responsible choice so they drag like whatever 5 brazilian reporters/pundits they have on staff to berate them harder for not having a Third Way and harder until by the end of September I can't open a paper here without seeing the last page some weirdo just screaming about Brazilian people being the descendants of African Slaves and thus "barely sentient apes".

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Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Well, now that Lula has put his chips on Haddad, surely there will be no

Portugal: Silly Brazucas your substitute is also corrupt! Why can't you go third way sweaties. Hewwo... HEWWO??? Bolsenaro is a non entity you goofballs???

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Globo has also cancelled releasing popularity polls since they would give Lula and PT a way larger margin of success, so yeah they're kind of freaking out and the Haddad corruption accusations seem to be bullshit.

The strategy seems to be they hope to stall enough the PT vote so they can slam Haddad with said charges, and hope Bolsenaro can get the share.

At least the comments on that piece are telling them to gently caress off, and Publico doesn't usually have a readership that leans that way. Maybe we'll get another piece on how its illogical to support Haddad by some hosed up monster again!

Kunster has issued a correction as of 14:15 on Sep 5, 2018

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

The hopes seem to be more based on slandering his image on the first round and to spark another pan banging dipshit parade.

Unless suddenly everyone somehow learns what "Dominio de Facto" even is, which is like German Law Theory stuff by someone who went immediately "yeah that's kinda bs".

Kunster has issued a correction as of 16:53 on Sep 5, 2018

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

spivak posted:

Bolsonaro and Globo hate one another.

Yes, but not enough to tell their underlings to actually cover the bad poo poo he says or even tell it to other networks other than "He's controversial!!1".

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

They're pulling some bullshit about non-updated biometric data required to vote speicifically on the districts Lula got the most votes, so it's prob happening.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

BrasilWire and The Intercept.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Portuguese coverage is also slooowly becoming pro-bolsonminon, going on how actually their concerns are valid but showcased in a somewhat brute way. And demanding a third way. At this time of hour. Holy poo poo Luis Marques Mendes you useless lovely goblin.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Oh, hey everyone, one of the sole lefty writers in Portuguese papers has finally written something about thia ordeal, let's see what he states:



Insert that screencap from the Garfield show where he hurls his food plate backwards here. Leagues better than yesterday's commentary that outright excuses Bolsenaro's supporters from like, everything, but still? Bleeeech.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

I saw that! Didn't see that on the coverage, maybe it will show up on A Procuradora this evening since according to the advert, she uses the power of Google to find the news.

JMT and to a certain extent Marques Mendes at this point baffles me. At least when like Bari Weiss or Bethany whatever or loving Boogie does the both sides poo poo, they at least use different arguments to, well, both sides.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

I think Temer already did.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Sometimes they send an ex-general here to go weep in front of a reporter for being accountable for too much murder.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

To be frank, he was happily cheering the vz oppo bombing clinics on the vz episode. Him being extra aloof about this shjt ain't exactly new.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Electronico6 posted:

goddam SIC just love it's plastic melting face dumb rear end commentators.

She's defending him right now. It was probably a good investment for SiC since Miguel Sousa Tavares actually questioned this and you can't just have that ruining their whole shtick!

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

No, but his kids do it but unlike Trump's kids, but they'll be in actual power and already have plans rather than pose with fish or show dad youtube vids to pep him up. I do believe one of them is already helping a candidate get to Marielle Franco's investigations files , stamp it with "wow, epic baw much" and fling them to the trash.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

AceOfFlames posted:

At the very least, he will trigger a huge wave of Brazilian immigration to Portugal, with most of those immigrants being minorities and LGBT, which in turn will likely cause a backlash and turn Portugal towards the far right, which it managed to avoid this far.

They're already trying to do this with the Venezuelan Portuguese (and so far are failing bc they're way too thankful of our healthcare system and relative stability) and a good part of the coverage of Brazil involves ignoring what actual poor Brazilians are saying. Ronaldo's sex crime is at this point a higher factor for recruiting for the right than either Brasil or Venezuela.

We had protests here that were just people pretending to be refugees and hurling a sheet over themselves with a sign demanding free money during the start of the Syrian refugee crisis. Tomi Lahren keeps trying to get fluff pieces here. The Portuguese taste for fascism isn't as big here, so something bigger has to happen.

Kunster has issued a correction as of 12:07 on Oct 12, 2018

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

nerdz posted:

backstory: he was slightly critical of the israel/palestine situation once

back-backstory: Brazilians in general are suuuuuuuper anti semitic so this is lolworthy

It kinda borrows from us. I recall on the same week people in my country being super condescending towards Palestine during the Cast Iron ordeal but then having to witness everyone sort of berating a Jewish family having a funeral on the nearby cemetery, save for like my dad (Who's very Pro-IDF) and me (Who follows Ali Abunimah on Twitter).

And yeah, the race ordeal still bleeds here as well. I know for certain that authorities started double checking me a whole more after 9/11 and was constantly told not to grow my facial hair and to keep my ID extra secure "since terrorists could use it to sneak into the Portuguese territory and do bad things here".

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Portuguese, but part of the family tans really easily. It gets really weird having, for several years, having to prove to people that I was born here and my folk were born here as well!

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Huh, Michael Temer finally got indicted for corruption. Looks like he finally outlived his usefulness. I look forward to John Green and every columnist that kept poking people on how corruption is really important and is why you should really care if your ideology is actually good to suddenly care about this again and to put another wacky clock on the telly counting down the minutes until Temer finally has to be arrested, and when it runs out to drag enough brazilian commentators to call them mentally handicapped for not making GBS threads out a sensible centre right government and how there should be compromise between murder and not murder.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

That's bc at the moment several media outlets are also doing the same thing of treating Bolso fans the same way Trump fans do.

God knows how many times I've seen a worried ex police commander rambling about not being able to murder more, chuddy people on the border cities moaning on how vz refugees are uppity or Norman Rockwell esque figures rambling on just how women and minorities have gone too far on portuguese telly and papers, including a segment where "ele nao" is viewed as slacktivism by bored women that should be on tupperware parties instead.

Marielle Franco is treated here in the same way Heather Meyer or JO COX that got murdered are viewed: "someone has died, for political reasons, i guess, should we even wonder what lead to it, nope let's just tie that to tone and populism instead and say that Haddad, Democrats (I know!! I KNOW BUT ACTUALLY GETTING PORTUGUESE TV TO SAY "DSA" IS IMPOSSIBLE, hell Jeff Flake and Mccain were seen as the main opposition to Trump) and Corbyn are just as fearmongering as their opponents."

Hell I've seen that pic of Bolso wearing that Ceara hat a whole lot this week onoutlets without even a single "hi here's why he's wearing that hat".

Kunster has issued a correction as of 10:56 on Oct 18, 2018

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Ciro Gomes was part seen as that, even if he did show up to be interviewed by Glenn Greenwald. Which probably makes him leagues better than the US one?

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

I'm glad that I can go on twitter and see libs poo poo out posts about harassing drive thru workers on whenenver or not they vote or comics where Hllary Clinton is a lifeboat and everyone was just too entitled to enter it. And then head to the serious brain reasonable for adults who have good brains newspaper in Portugal, where reasonable adults tell the Brazilian public to not vote for the sake of electoral sanity. Oh, and that if he wins, it's actually bc the left willed him into existence.

Jesus Christ.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

I'm honestly stumped at this point. Diario de Noticias maybe?? Publico is the more "serious" one but this means that they only more of less gather everyone that can poo poo out a longread and can publish a semi coherent piece every day. I'm amazed that there's not a single "Oh yeah Bolsa Familia exists and PT is why that's a thing" piece. Only "Vote Haddad to stop Bolso" and the end of that CDS interview where the head is hoesntly trying to juggle "must stop socialist march" but also "We're the reasonable right even if we want the US ideal of police enforcement, drug policy and healthcare".

Hell, i honestly hope a brazilian person gives her an earful on one of her comitees to "meet real people".

Kunster has issued a correction as of 11:55 on Oct 25, 2018

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Mans posted:

I wouldn't call Cristas a person wih a serious, reasonable brain.


The best is Publico, which just published that rubish article peace lmao.

We call old people a grey plague and as soon as the tourism bubble break this poo poo hole will become a barren desert so enjoy it while you can

I was making a really dumb riff about magazines like Visão and news networks like SIC making here a big deal on how they're the stop gap for serious minded people and how CDS policies are treated by them save for when they go against PSD, when she and her party are suddenly weird and insane.

During Socrates time, I remember riffing with a PuertoRican friend that we were Europe's Florida. Hearing the government led by the likes of Crista honestly suggest that as a feature should tell you everything.

Also she invited Santana Lopes to join in (Portuguese JEB!).

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Ya know, when I open papers here and I think "Probably we should learn a bit more from US Press, I mean years of befuddlement and just getting hashtag resistance feedback from Jeff Flake is a bit narrowsighted" I didn't expect a Monkey Paw to curl its finger somewhere and answer that with "Actually what you want is Bret Stephens - esque "brain" "expanding" editorials from someone who ignores most of everything and blames whatever on the left AND STILL MAKES loving TRUMP COMPARISONS RATHER THAN DUERTE ONES". Yeah let's get someone who still doesn't admit that a coup happened to cover Brazilian Politics and pins literal mass murder as "Social Justice Concerns", you loving morons. Mans is right, this is the paper of note in Portugal and that's frightening. I look forward to Brazilian Chud Safaris, with our incredibly stupid as hell foreign policy reporters doing Tucker Carlson head nods at PinochetPepe64 and vague notions to "pwowoopiiishm and wwaackkwaawiiisshhmmm gaushed iiisshh"

Liberals hate Sociaists more than Fascists, folks.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Welp, I was right and pundits are proposing sending Portuguese press to do Brazilian Chud safaris, in an exercise to be less judgemental. gently caress. Fuuuuuck!n!

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

THS posted:

oh yeah get ready for a million liberal pieces interviewing and humanizing your average bolsonaro supporter

We're already getting them!

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

THS posted:

glenn greenwald is gonna get murked rip

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1056668775536312321

I Honestly wonder how David Miranda is reacting to this.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Most of the Portuguese Press has either done the "Actually, it's the Left that did this" or "Bolsenaro is the candidate for normal people, why are you close minded about this", the entirety of the Right Wing consensus has been doing the portuguese equivalent of Never Trump and the only thing that could stop Portugal from straight up inviting him and giving him a hero's parade of concerned but understanding solemn admiration is if you get one of the Bolso kids to spit on a fountain or call Cristano Ronaldo a dreaded homosexual.

So yeah we've been already practicing that for years.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

And our President just congratulated him. He also sent a thing congratulating Donald Trump on his election as well.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Elias_Maluco posted:

Also there is a lot of volunteers eager to do this job spontaneous, the police just have to look the other way. People have already started to feel like they can kill gays and trans people

Plus there's the militias, which the bolsonaros defended and even tried to make legal. I expect we will see quite a boom of RJ-like militias all over the country and they will do a good part of the dirty work

Top it off with him concernedly telling the viewer on a press release that he just got rid of an American agent provocateur with heavy ties to US Election Interference Apologia (With Russia Today correspondents and ties!!11). Hell you don't even have to make much of an effort on Portuguese Coverage, even if you make a Never Trump style thing where you don't want the candidate but endorsing all of his policies you get deemed a globalist elite by their newest hire.

Kunster has issued a correction as of 00:09 on Oct 30, 2018

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Ras Het posted:

I have full faith in.... Portugal and.... Sweden?

The earlier yesterday just had the president happily cheering his arrival, with a spectrum around his party going between Portuguese Never Trump and No Actually He's Good and the leading commentary from the tv broadcaster thst is straiht up owned by that party has now taken to speak about the PC (((elites))) , confusing the newscaster that was right next to her.

What I'm saying is that there's a good chance that Portugal might start raising concerns about the Queer Caravan coming our way now that their attempt at turning VZ emigrants into Shapiro clones has failed so far.

The moreno thing is similar here, I've heard neighbours straight up talk about black neighbours going from black to "moreno" to "good people" as they've gotten to know them better.

Kunster has issued a correction as of 11:04 on Oct 30, 2018

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Plutonis posted:

A newly elected lawmaker from the party of Brazil’s ultra-rightwing president-elect, Jair Bolsonaro, has launched a campaign to encourage students to denounce teachers who complain about his victory.
In an interview with local radio, Campagnola said her phone had been running hot with denunciations. When one Facebook follower questioned the legality of filming in class, she warned: “Just behave properly and there is no reason to be scared, citizen.”

https://twitter.com/strauss_real/status/1056707022119452672

And someone peeped that and is doing a donation drive for appears to be legal funds for the APAE (Parents of Students and Disabled Kids, I think that's the closest translation) there based on sending random horseshit to her. I think its done and the money was sent already.

Kunster has issued a correction as of 20:15 on Oct 30, 2018

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

The "Actually, he won bc we were clueless libs and didn't listen" coming from here wouldn't be as grating if the same media didn't parrot the exact same poo poo Bolso stated in a NeverTrumpesque way. Specially coming from people who spent several years agitating for the government to clamp down on lefties and labour unions. Without reporting chuds trying to get teachers fired and gay folk stabbed and villages burned. Christ.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Bolso's now picking ministers for his future government, and so far a few Lava Jato faces (Which was the most predictable thing in the universe save for bolsonominis and portuguese centre right dipshits) have been chosen. Needless to say, his and his kids's mentions are getting filled with angry fans.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

If anything, Lula is a SocDem and somewhat closer to what the DSA has been shaping to. Which is why US folk should pay a bit more attention as to what's happening in Brazil.

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

I think if there's a silver lining to this, it's to see the portuguese government in the future honestly try to make up for having a major meltdown and for constantly sending collective rape threats over spitting on a fountain to the future environment minister to not sell off more of the Amazon Forest. I wish our Procuradora actually reserved her middle finger to the portuguese for thisand not over people being worried about... everyting else about Bolso, really.

Kunster has issued a correction as of 11:00 on Nov 13, 2018

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006


As stated before, those were the bodyguards of a kingpin, but what is being stated there is an elected congressman basically looking at human rights groups and the un and going "they're going to get so triggered by this, and we don't give a poo poo, that's how its going to work here"

Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

Plutonis posted:

Cuba is withdrawing their doctors lol. I'm sure that the dipshits who study medicine will want to take their place on the countryside hospitals.

Of course they will replace the cuban doctors! By being at gunpoint according to the future defense minister.

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Kunster
Dec 24, 2006

If DSA or WWP or PSL or whatever left club y'all have does a defense fund for the Landless Workers Movement (MST, Movimento dos Trabalhadores Rurais sem Terra), it would be a good candidate.

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