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Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

StashAugustine posted:

When's he going to tweet swap.avi

Gotta save something for Easter.

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Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

joepinetree posted:

There's a guy who was elected to congress after he was photographed breaking a sign in tribute to Marielle Franco.

It keeps galling me how long it takes for people to get that the chuds and ogres are just as vile as they have been howling to the winds that they are, for years now.

It's like someone shoes up at your doorstep covered in blood and waving the carcass of your dead dog, screaming "Hey I love dog murder and my Youtube channel DogMurderPwns has 30 thousand subscribers, killing your dog was like the best thing ever!" And you still scratch your chin and go 'Hmm, I wonder what he means by that."

They are literally on the record advocating for torture, murder and 'disappearance' of anyone who can even be tangentially considered an enemy, as well as legalizing the actual means to pursue those goals.

The 'center' really will tolerate Bellzebub himself if it means getting all that sweet social security cash.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

get that OUT of my face posted:

there was a very stupid article on Vox a couple weeks ago about how evangelicals disagree with bolso on some issues, therefore it's not a slam dunk for their bloc to follow him in Congress. that's bullshit, they don't care about issues as much as they care about spite towards the left

It takes a giant, powerful brain to believe that.

The same brain that would likely think "Evangelicals will never embrace Trump, he's a New Yorker, vulgar serial philanderer and cheater!"

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Seems to be an old image. Bolso is in the US now fellating Trump.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

joepinetree posted:

It's like the complaints that PT was "aparelhando" the state. The accusation being that they were nominating a bunch of people who were politically aligned with them. Now, did PT create those positions? No, they were the positions that normally went to the cousin of your local political ally, or some poo poo like that. A government nominating the failson of some local gangster to run the local post office? Business as usual. PT nominating someone from the party to run it? An outrageous attempt to infiltrate the state and spread their ideology.



Not just that, but if PT really was trying to stack up state positions with its cronies for future benefit and dominance, hot -drat- they sucked at it.

Pretty much every last person they appointed, especially to the courts, either sold them out or glanced nervously at their nails as the inquisition got in gear. We've got scions of other parties skating free after being caught with planes and choppers full of cocaine, but none of PT's famed political goons could clear their throat to say that maybe taking a dump on the constitution and due process with bizarre legal rationales that are used once and then quetly stowed away was bullshit.

It's darkly funny that brazilian labour bent itself backward to try and please the military by boosting its status and pay, giving it internation missions it craved (Haiti) and integrating them into infra-structure jobs), as well as grant the Federal Police independence and respect, only to have them gleefully stab them at the first oportunity. There really is no placating.

As Joe said, no one cares as long as the results are right at the end of the day. The supposedly educated, 'moderate' elite would do away with habeas corpus, free press and a number of other oh-so-valued Enlightenment values in an eyeblink if it felt they would spoil their goals. I wish I still believed that brazilian media will learn its lesson after wailing over the supposed press-hating bolivarianist labour governments for 10+ years only to be declared Enemy of the People in a very real way two months in by the monster they gestated, but we all know they'll be back to arguing a 1.3% tax hike is the -real- tyranny the moment any remotely progressive force comes to power.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

bagual posted:

PT's downfall began in 2013, imo

with the mass protests erupting, both the government and the usual rightist ghouls tried putting it down

but as the movement evolved and got really big, the right-wing embraced it as anti-government and anti-PT, and pretty much controlled the narrative since then

PT kept decrying "nazi black blocs" (lol) instead of using the originally left-wing anti bus fare protests to pass left policies, also Dilma made huge concessions that made the government look weak

Dilma won 2014 by a slim margin but the tide was clearly turning, with lunatics being given the pulpit by the press and justices politically persecuting Lula more openly than ever before

This all adds up to today, i can't believe 6 years ago i was being teargassed in front of Zero Hora only for the chudosphere to capitalize on it


Agreed, but there were other signs as well. Hell, you can even set the movie Tropa de Elite as an early marker of the new brazilian chud wave. A movie that is blatantly a cautionary tale about how the system will bend both law enforcement and crime itself to its benefit (the sequel pretty much shouts it from the rooftops), and all everyone went crazy were the cool torture, the executions and the cult-ish aspects of the BOPE. If I had a dime for each well-born 'moderate' I saw quoting 'Faca na Caveira' and 'Pede pra sair' that year, I'd be able to afford a private med school.

But yes, the 2013 protests showed blood in the water, and it was almost comical how the establishment did an about face on it. Monday editorials would be literally "These bums want everything for free, stop squealing about a 20 cent increase!" and by thursday it was "Hail the brave protesters, enemies of all that is corrupt and wrong in our country!" . My boss at the time literally went from callimg them useless parasites one day to calling me the next really excited that he had attended a protest and gotten tear gassed, it was rad!

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

joepinetree posted:

I think that the main outcome of 2013 was to shatter the image of invulnerability of the PT. It allowed the centrao to ask for more than before because they knew the tough spot PT was in, which is what led to Eduardo Cunha becoming the speaker of the house and the ultimate downfall of Dilma. That said, it is clear that if it wasn't through the political process, it would have been something else, as Lava Jato had a very clear goal in mind.

Oh yeah. gently caress, I remember that when I came to Argentina in 2014 the big moral scandal of the day was that some government secretary or minister had out a tapioca on his corporate card and everyone was shocked, shocked! that such an egregious abuse had been comitted.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

ZearothK posted:

Due to his advanced age and status as ex-president he'll be condemned to 30 years of home arrest in his mansion.

No chance. There's not even a verdict against him.

This is purely pyrotecnics to try and shore support for Lava Jato and distract from the poor government polling this week.

And to bait the Supreme Court, which has been finding some courage against the crazy hijinks of the last years, if only out of self preservation. If they free him (which they should, as it's motivated by nothing in the legal sphere), they come off as corrupt viziers defending thieves, and not as watchers making sure the constitution is followed.

Also, it seems that the plea-bargain quote they used to get him was about buying votes for the impeachment in 2016, which is kinda admirable in its brazenness.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Halser posted:

Can someone explain to a smoothbrained moron like me what's the endgame with this poo poo?

Crediting the current crop of howling swine with an endgame is pushing it.

But basically, it's brazilian institutions, who have never been that strong or independent to begin with, having a prison shank-fight with each other as the status quo that started in 1988 and buried in poo poo in 2016, finally expires.

- Government knows it needs to kill social security and privatize everything if it is to last, but between being a crop of loons and relying on fickle political mercenaries, they are not as steady as their vote count indicated (and many of their voters, who were formerly center-right PSDB types who considered themselves cosmopolitan moderates, are having doubts). So they are doing what they know, which is punching anyone who gets in the way and calling them communists and thieves. There's also the fact that they are stained not with just run-of-the-mill capaign violations and such but blatant involvement with violent militias, financial shitfuckery in stealing the wages of staff, and so on, making many of the key figures dead men walking.

-The courts are corporativist to an insane degree and mindful of their privileges, but also turned ideological in the last 10-15 years as their lower officers filled up with neoliberal types once public service got better pay and became a viable career choice. They have rubber-stamped every power of the day since birth, but also have a bit of caution not to shake the building down, since that would mean the end of their gravy train. Now their runaway shitshow, Lava Jato, is basically trying to call the shots and top from the bottom. They literally tried to have a fund of $2 billion given to them instead of returned to its owners, so they could "use it against corruption", meaning funding friendly pols and paying themselves for classes and speeches and poo poo. It went over horribly, fell through, and they are salty as gently caress over it and sending barbs at the supreme court for not backing them.

- The Legislative is a joke, by design. Say what you will, the PT is the only real party of size in the country, in the sense that it's an organization with a set following and agenda from north to south. All others are gatherings of convenience that will turn on a dime, shrink or swell as pols flip parties, and basically fall in wholesale to vote for projects if their prices are met. The present bondoggle happens because they are wily enough cowards to know when the ground is shaky, and when times are risky, prices go up. Having to pay them off goes against the New Era discourse of the government, but they'll still do it, if they can keep themselves from imploding (see the Dead Men Walking point above), and no one is sure they will, so things are stalling.

-The media is torn. They want the reforms and PT to be erased so bad they could poo poo, since it means a windfall for their allies in the financial sector and the vindication of their 1990s neoliberal mindset. On the other hand, they wanted it to happen at the hands of their chosen enlightened elite scions of the PSDB, not the hooting trolls of the new right, but they know thay can't be picky. They can't -not- report on the gorss malpratcie and crime ties of the new government, as that brings in views, but can't let it get out of control either because it might endanger the Holy Reforms or worse, bring progressives back to power. So they play a weird two-step dance that still gets them called Fake News by our chuds but is unfocused enough that they are not overt enemies of the government. There are some, like the Record Network, owned by a huge evangelical church, that have fully allied with the government and receive exclusive releases and interviews as a result, while Bolso actively denies other vehicles access, leveraging his celebrity.

Where it will all lead? gently caress, it's Brazil. No one has a clue.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Halser posted:

I love having even more abstract anxiety in my life.

Don't remind me.

It's a bit like the attitude US people are adopting toward school shootings.

"Should we try, you know, drawing down social violence and getting rid of guns? Nah? Let's be zen about it. Teach kids that their lives are mere candles in the breeze and we can all be snuffed out in an eyeblink"

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Honestly there have been precedent of military dictatorships sidelining the far right elements that previously supported their ascent.

Brazil itself did that. After Carlos Lacerda spent 10+ years frothing for the military to come in and clean out the commies in 1964, then give him the presidency because he was a nice christian boy, they snorted and told him to go get hosed, civvie.

Then he had his NeverTrump moment and formed an alliance with two former adversaries (Goulart and Juscelino) to try and get a movement gpoing for a return to normalcy, and within a year all three were dead in accident or weird, sudden illnesses. :pseudo:

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Knitting Beetles posted:

Does anyone have book recommendations about Brazil's military dictatorship period? (I speak Portuguese)

For a bit of a snapshot of Brazil in general, before and during the dictatorship(s), Ruy Castro's 'O Anjo Pornográfico' (bio of Brazil's biggest modern playwright whose family was involved in a RIDICULOUS amount of history) is a master-class. If you like soccer, his book A Estrela Solitária is also great.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Smirking_Serpent posted:

same thing happened in Romania with Iron Guard being destroyed after the fascists took power.

There is a pundit in Brazil called Reinaldo Azevedo who was one of the earliest New Right, Glenn-Beck-clone figures that popped up here, and of course instantly got space in several major publications. His stuff was just insufferable, with plenty of racist and mysoginistic fare to go with the classic "the commies are coming, run!". Easily one of the pioneers that bred the fever swamps that gave us Bolsonaro.

Except last year, after he saw the classic neoliberal party flounder and die unmourned by anyone except other media dopes, he realized the fanatics would have no use for him, as they had their own cult of personality and hated print and radio media (since they toelrated the decades of 'socialist' past regimes). So suddenly he became a newly-minted paladin of due process , ranting against the uncouth bungling of the government, and even bemoaning the partial rulings and actions of the Judiciary.

Earned him the hate of half of his followers, and the grudging respect of the desperate left. War makes strange bedfellows and all that. The moment some even vaguely viable neoliberal figure dawns, though, we can expect him to return to praising local crazy judges arresting lefties based on crooked plea deals.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Mourão recently had a meeting with the bigwigs of industry and said that the minimum wage in Brazil is too big (for american goons: it's barely more than 230 dollars a month) and promised to privatize healthcare, education and dismantle labor rights. Watch this space.

The Ottoman Empire strangled the other kids of the Sultan once he picked an heir, to prevent civil wars.


Brazil might wanna start having each newly-sworn president murder his vice-president to prevent palace coups.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

loving good. Let the chuds eat poo poo from the crooks and hucksters they elected. Let them whine about the PC left when some evangelical loon bans Steam in Brazil.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

dirty lousy tramp posted:

every pic of his is like something from the early episodes of the walking dead, when the zombies were still relatively fresh

Every time the gif or video of him faking (badly) to do push-ups along with active soldiers pops up on my feed, a tiny bit of joy is reborn in my heart.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Seems the Judiciary has hit the crack pipe this week. A conservative online magazine (Crusoe) published a rather weaksauce piece about one of the Supreme Court justices being involved with a construction company (Nothing beyond a 'source says X' level of proof, though).

Apparently that was enough to make them poo poo bricks, and they legally barred the publication, which amounts to censorship. They also fined the magazine and now double-fined them on a technicality. Conservatives reacted with their usual tact: the few softer types a bit shocked that hey, maybe all that talk of institutions going crazy was real, and the growing hardcore chuds ecstatic that this will be the excuse to have the military shell the building and install some proper crazies on board with the new madness instead of the old boring protection racket.

Said magazine (which are jerks, never doubt) is also getting off on playing victim, though not that long ago they were gloating whenever a 'leftist' journalist was investigated for nothing or had their content and sites blocked. And just minutes ago, the STF doubled down and suspended all tbe media accounts of those involved. On cue, an army general tweeted a veiled warning at the court that he wasn't happy about being investigated and urging his top brass pals to sound off.

So place your bets! Who is going to win? Media, the army or the courts? It's anyone's game right n-

The army. Like, it's not even loving close. That anyone else even feels like poking their neck out goes a long way to show how divorced from reality they are after 2016.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Negrostrike posted:

Bostonaro and his lackeys talking about defending free speech. I wonder if that would happen if the Judiciary had censored Estado/Folha de So Paulo instead.

They have. Folha's interview with Lula was blocked last year, "So as not to disturb the electoral process", and Estado had pieces about court corruption also suppressed not that long ago. Both were in the Temer era, though, so while they grumbled, most people took it in stride so as not to help out PT or endanger the shaky transition government.

Brazilian regard for institutions is entirely opportunistic, even by the institutions themselves. They will burn down their houses with a smile if it means they finally get their pension reform and deregulation.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Say what you will of Gilmar Mendes but when Carta Capital and others were reporting his shady business he didn't do this kind of poo poo to them.

True, because he knew he'd never be touched. Let the press wail, it'll all come to nothing.

Toffoli has been pressured in different ways, from faction inside the courts and police (mostly to get him to vote for 2nd instance arrests, but also more stuff), so he actually feels threatened. As for Moraes, who the gently caress knows?

Pointless anecdote. One of my best friends had Moraes as a teacher at Mackenzie Law. Says he was the laziest teacher imaginable, rarely showing up, and when he didm, he basically worte the subject title on the board, gave a 5-minute wikipedia-header explanation, then told students to read it by themselves. Knowledgeable enough about matters if you caught him in the break room and asked about specifics, but utterly uninvested.

Also an adherent of the Staircase Grading system, as they call it. Find a staircase with 10 steps, throw the pile of exams towards it. Whichever step your exam lands on is the grade you got!

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Taintrunner posted:

american liberalism has rung in a massive endorsement for fuckface von clownstick

https://twitter.com/ianbremmer/status/1118530102596382720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

The next economic crash won't be -quite- as fun withou brazilian retirement and pension funds in the roulette!

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

god drat bolsonaro looks like absolute poo poo in every single picture, it's incredible

He looks like a moister version of that bug from Men in Black when it's wearing a badly-fitting human skin.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Dias posted:

https://twitter.com/guilherme_amado/status/1121183622923542528

Apparently Carlinhos grounded his dad and locked his access to Twitter because they had an argument.

lol

massive loving lol

To think that Brazil's military wanted to get a nuclear weapon in the 1970s.

I could totally see one of the Failsons launching a nuke because one of his tweets got ratioed.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Lol Trump hosed us over and didn't recommended our entry to the OECD after Bolsonaro sucked his dick. Art of the deal, dummies!

They were so drat happy over this a month back and it was such an obvious lie, it's almost cute.

Like, "Huh, the guy who said he was a Wallet Inspector sure is taking a long time to come back with my wallet and cash, I guess he must be getting a reward for me since I'm such a good guy" levels of self-delusion.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Well, since there's talk of the military having its budget slashed by over 40% (could just be the usual false leaks so the government can walk it back in 2 days and say the media was spreading fake news), guess we'll see.

The armed forces have been gobbling positions in government at a prodigious pace. Pretty much every time a crazy new goober screws up, which is often, he gets replaced with some general or colonel. While that is great for the officers personally, the military institutions themselves are steadily corroded as they are increasingly weeded to a flailing government. Stayong outside of power and the media gave them an aura of honesty and competence for the last 25+ years, but it only takes a few catastrophes to toss all of that down the drain. Every drat week the Olavettes go another yard in making GBS threads on the military.

And if there's something the Army really doesn't take well, it's being mocked or seen as weak/ridiculous.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

hoiyes posted:

If you had to choose between true believing Evangelicals, Olavo disciples, or the military... Has it really come to the military being the least bad?

Depends on which part of the military we're talking about.

Even during the dictatorship, the armed forces had at least three powerful factions that schemed against each other more or less openly and took turns on top of the pile. The ESG americanophiles who were all gung-ho about hunting invisible commies and getting the US to love us, the old guard 'Prussians' who flet the army had to just clean out the corrupt state and go back to the barracks, and the legalists mostly just tried to keep their head down and not jump into political shitstorms.

I've attended courses with military officers and they were very smart, realistic types, but the thing is, as much as they dislike the other factions, they will -burn the country down- before ever turning their backs of the bizarre and freaks in their midst. It's a thing across all armed forces, but even more pathological in Brazil.

Hell, the 1964 coup had basically stalled in its early hours for lack of support, until one loon general in the middle of nowhere decided to declare his command in rebellion, and then the others, even those who hated his guts and thought him a buffoon, all joined in after him because if they didn't the crazy guy would have lost and turned into a joke, and they could not let that happen to their beloved institution.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

ah yes, the leeroy jenkins doctrine

That's a good comparison, yes.

It really bums me out how much the local left seriously tried to cozy up to the military, even at the expense of their own base, and how it all amounted to zilch. The army was a sorry spectacle in the late 1990s, barely able to have meat in the meals and largely seen as the last resort for miserable people who couldn't get a job anywhere else.

The labour governments almost tripled their funding, gave them standing in developing infrstructure in the far regions of the country, a raised profile doing international missions for the UN, bid for modern fighters for the air force, the works. Nothing made a difference. A scummy friend of my father was a low-level military sec oficer once told us that "Yeah, things are better, but working for these people just doesn't -feel- right" back in 2007. I was hoping he'd be a dot outside the graph, but...nope.

Courting the evangelicals was just as disastrous and far less excusable. Labour candidates showed up at every ugly temple inauguration, passed no law limiting religious privileges and power, and their redistribution and development plans ensured the lower classes, which make the bulk of the faithful, had more money to fleece. None of that bought an ounce of loyalty or goodwill. Some evangelical leaders are opposing the increased focus on violence and guns, since that's such a real, immediate peril in the lives and experience of their folks, but the vast majority don't give two shits and are just swallowing positions and comissions while the sun is shining.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

events seem to happening tomorrow. might become a sign guy but i think i need to get some input from my brazilian struggle buddies, as this struggle is an international one (as is right and proper)

what should i write on my sign?

If you really wanna make the bolsominions mad, allude to his brutal loserdom.

"Bolsonaro = Loser kicked from theArmy for Terrorism"

"Loser parasite who retired at 33"

"Enjoy Dallas' great Golden Showers"

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
I still think that President Dumbass just saw the opening paragraph of that piece saying he's a "gift" and that the system is bad and passed it along after getting it from one of his moist sons, but gently caress if it didn't have an effect. Feels like the domino has finally been tipped and it's knocking others down.

Even the libertarian trolls from MBL are coughing into their hands and leaving the boat. Bot services are trying to lift tags supporting the president but no one ther heavy hitters are stepping in.

Apparently there's going to be a pro-government demonstration on the 26th, which promises to be funny.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Elias_Maluco posted:

At the same time, he actually might be expecting The People (the bolsonaristas) to go out on the streets to defend their president, putting pressure on the congress and STF to do what he wants

I dont see that happening, though. Maybe if MBL and the likes called it, but the opposite seems to be happening: MBL seems to be getting ready to jump out of the Bolsonaro boat

To be fair, an armed column of tubby Barbecue Uncles heading to the country's capital would be loving hilarious. I wish I was good at graphics stuff so I could give the Bullet Farmer and the People eaters from Fury Road brazilian soccer t-shirts.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

nerdz posted:

he shared it making it very clear that it explains actions that he's about to do. he says "read this if you want to be ahead of the facts"

kinda scary since the letter says that regular democracy is not working

It's not like market-fellating types care to show even a slight appreciation for democracy anymore, though. Up until the 1990s they still felt the need to do that because it was all going their way, but since the oughts it's become kosher to flatly admit that between capitalism and democracy, capitalism will always come first. they say so in respectable op-eds in real media, even.

That the president echoes it is the worrisome part, of course, but then again....look who we're talking about. Torture-apologist, dictatorship-defending Bolso, whose clan cheerfully boasts about how it'd only take two soldiers to shut down the Supreme court.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Lmfao bolsonaros decree on arms ownership lets people take guns on airplane flights (meanwhile our air transport regulatory agency is desperately trying wants to reverse that part). We out americaed the americans.

True capitalists cater to the long-neglected plane hijacker market.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Collor under the bed is what takes it from good to great. ~

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Lawman 0 posted:

I can't wait for trump for trumps take on this

"Who? Don't know him. Why are you asking me this? Fake news."

The idea that Trump even remembers who Bolso is, or cares about Brazil in some grand geopolitical way, is my favorite political delirium of our times.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Any decent estimates on the pro-crazy demonstrations today? I don't think they will flop, as it's still too soon after Boldo's victory and we've proven conclusively that 20% of Brazil is foaming madmen, but I'd love to be proved wrong.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Huh. I was expecting the southern states to be HUGE for the president in the streets. Like, Rio is a given since evangelicals are so dense and politically active there, but still...

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
He really would give away all public companies, and perhaps a couple of states, for a handful of magic beans.

That are actually styrofoam peanuts.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Plutonis posted:

I wonder how things would go if Meireles, Alckmin or Amoedo won and they pushed an even more brutal economic and maybe environmental policy but a more subdued social one.

They'd be hailed as moderate saviours and the antidote to the goofy monsters in power now.

It's an open question if it'd be enough. The institutions that boosted them (big media, the courts, the 'markets') have lost of a lot of power and prestige lately, when they have not been partially infiltrated by chuds.

Turns out that when you make open hatred of a nebulous 'commies' entity as the sole factor that guides political viability, you create an audience that will not settle for the polished, presentable neoliberal crony and wants the real, bloody-handed article.

People who literally made a living basing the left on the radio, like Marcelo Madureira and 'historian' Villas Boas have been summarily fired from their vehicles the moment their cristicism of the new regime went beyond "They're not doing so well, are they?". Oddly enough, those and other cases only saw rising fame and money during the supposed oppression if a free-speech-hating, mildly leftist government a few years ago.

It's going to take a crash, and big one, to really put a dent in Bolsonarism in Brazil. Otherwise, they will always say that the corrupt system brought the savior down because he was too honest/good to be tolerated, and that the right should be less nice next time around.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Chud social media is on fire with theories that MC Suicide MistressBeater was a swell guy and would -never- have killed himself, so it's obviously a setup by the cultural marxists.

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
Either when he utterly fails to deliver pension reform, the holy grail that makes the local banks and other vultures cheer even for Pol Pot if she would deliver it, or when the supreme court rules against the government on anything big.

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Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Plutonis posted:

Yeah posting her nudes pretty much got him absolutely hosed. I hate his rear end so I hope he gets nicked out of some millions or gets jail time for this.

Ronaldo was caught by actual police with no less than three transexual prostitutes and nothing happened. The case was buried with X-files grade efficiency, the prostitute that was being noisy about it met one of those timely, accidental deaths, and money continued to flow.

So yeah, Neymar isn't even going to do one of those fake contrition apologies. This is the era of brazen terribleness, not the old hypocritical goody-2-shoes normalism.

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