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Tibalt posted:It doesn't actually fix the issue with the electoral college, it just changes the states you need to win. It would help the electoral college to some degree, in that the larger the house is the harder it is to win the presidency while losing the popular vote. It wouldn't fix the first-past-the-post issues.
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haveblue posted:The electoral college could be nullified by the NPVIC, but how to get every state to pass it and continue to abide by it when it costs them power is left as an exercise for the reader. You don't need every state to pass it
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Ginette Reno posted:So isn't 2020 a pretty lovely map for the Senate too? If I'm not mistaken vulnerable Republican senators = Cordy Gardner(Col), Susan Collins (Maine), and Thom Tillis (North Carolina). Turns out every election is a lovely map for the Democrats in the Senate.
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Liquid Communism posted:No. You use the Senate to gerrymander the House districts, and thus depress voter turnout by making it look like nothing matters. What? House districts are gerrymandered by the states.
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:the most obvious solution to this problem is to try to find an issue in the democrats' wheelhouse that tests well in such areas I agree. There's a lot of people in this forum who've been banging the message that it's impossible to convince Republicans to vote Democratic and that elections are all about turning out your side. That may work in the House and for the presidency, but frankly it isn't going to work in the Senate. Democrats are going to have to find a way to convince R voters in these rural states that the Republican party does not have their best interests at heart. It's not easy but there isn't much of a choice.
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Sure would have been nice to have taken the Senate.... Or at least closed the margin in case one or two Republicans found their spines
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mdemone posted:Have any Democrats managed to squeak out some noises about Sessions yet? https://twitter.com/RepJerryNadler/status/1060259307567091713?s=20 (Top dem on the house judiciary committee)
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Nov 7, 2018 21:12
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Unfortunately the most important action that could be taken on gun control is to put liberals on SCOTUS so that at least sane states could start putting restrictions on guns.
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KingNastidon posted:And the left want it to be a white conservative as a political "win" that would justify criticism of conservative rhetoric and strengthen the case for gun control. We could just wait 12 hours for the shooter's actual identity rather than blindly speculating and hoping it's someone we don't like. Gives the bodies time to cool off a bit. Maybe on the first point, but as to the case for gun control it doesn't matter who it is
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Nov 8, 2018 15:14
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https://twitter.com/GregStohr/status/1060533984902430720 Seems she was able to spend all night without going to the hospital. Hopefully a sign that it isn't too bad.
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eke out posted:do y'all think fractured ribs means she's dead or something When people are 85 falls are extremely serious. That's around the age my grandmother fell and she died a few weeks later. That said, this one doesn't seem that bad, based on what we've heard. But we haven't heard a lot.
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Nov 8, 2018 15:18
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Prester Jane posted:Manchin was the deciding vote to put a massive anti-lgbt and anti-woman bigot on to the Supreme Court- where said bigot is promptly going to work very hard to take away rights from those groups. At the time support for Mansion was justified because he was necessary to flip the Senate, and like all mcgarty posters who objected I was lectured repeatedly on how flipping the Senate would justify all the ill that Manchin was doing. This is false, he was not the deciding vote
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Prester Jane posted:No, he was literally the deciding vote. He should have at the very least forced the Republicans to do whatever they would have had to do to pass Kavanagh without him- instead he chose to be the deciding vote and to give one of the GOP Senators a hall pass. 50-48. If it were 49-49, Pence puts him in. That is not the deciding vote.
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Prester Jane posted:When it came time to actually do the deed, he cast the deciding vote. That's what matters. No one cares about your made up definition of a deciding vote. If he voted the other way Kavanaugh would still be confirmed. That is not "deciding."
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FuturePastNow posted:VP only breaks the tie if it's 50-50 Nope. Here's Pence breaking a 49-49 tie: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=2&vote=00040
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Prester Jane posted:I imagine its quite nice to live in such a privileged bubble that you can trivially sacrifice other people's liberties and rights for potential gains- and when it doesn't pan out you just kind of shrugg your shoulders and go "that's how the cookie crumbles". When his vote mattered and millions of people's healthcare was one the line, he voted the right way. When his vote didn't matter, on Kavanugh, who would have been confirmed regardless, he voted the wrong way. It's weird that you prefer the symbolic victories over the ones that materially affect people, while at the same time accusing those who prefer the material victories of living in a "privileged bubble."
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How many Senate races are still undetermined? Looks like Florida will definitely be recounted.
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VitalSigns posted:Manchin filibustered the DREAM Act when every Democratic vote mattered because a few Republicans had crossed the aisle to support it. You're correct on that. He's not good, I think he's just less bad, in ways that can matter sometimes. Anyway no more Manchinchat.
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We should think about violent white guys, in terms of how to de-radicalize them. Too bad the Trump admin ended a program to do exactly that, right after the mail bombings.
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marshmonkey posted:This thread perfectly illustrates why it’s futile to debate conservatives, chiefly that their “beliefs” will shift to suit their need to troll you: https://twitter.com/AmandaMarcotte/status/1060511898347692032 "Tribal epistemology" like this is definitely a feature of what's been happening on the right over the past decade https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/3/22/14762030/donald-trump-tribal-epistemology quote:Over time, this leads to what you might call tribal epistemology: Information is evaluated based not on conformity to common standards of evidence or correspondence to a common understanding of the world, but on whether it supports the tribe’s values and goals and is vouchsafed by tribal leaders. “Good for our side” and “true” begin to blur into one.
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Bicyclops posted:It's a shame the word "shill" has essentially become a gendered insult, because Jill rhymes with shill, and Dr. Stein is 100 percent a sell-out to the conspiracy elements of her party. Her earlier career is indicative that she's smart enough to know better, which means, ironically, that she's just the kind of politician people who are voting for her hate the most: a cynical opportunist. Are you confusing "shill" with "shrill"? Because calling someone a "shill" isn't gendered at all to my knowledge.
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CuddleCryptid posted:All the time? We just didn't have an overwhelming number of impeachable crimes going down during the Obama admin, and Bush was more of a "war crime" kind of guy I dunno, this was pretty bad
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Pellisworth posted:There's a ton of climate change stuff in that posted agenda too. No need to speculate, it's basically spelled out right there that that's exactly what it is. Write up some reasonable bills and put the ball in the senate/trump's court. They either pass/sign it or they don't, either way the Dems look better for 2020.
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https://twitter.com/JesseRodriguez/status/1060996667942539264 I assume Mitch will continue to say that everything's fine and he see no need for such legislation all the way up until Trump fires Mueller, at which point he will note his concerns and continue to do nothing.
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Nov 9, 2018 21:46
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This thread sometimes... "Every vote should count and everyone should have the opportunity to vote" is both the morally correct position and beneficial to Democrats. There's no need to make some kind of devil's bargain here.
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Worth noting that three more red states (Idaho, Nebraska and Utah) expanded Medicaid last week. Also with LePage out in Maine he can't stonewall their expansion anymore.
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John Dingell wants the Senate abolished: https://twitter.com/elwasson/status/1069967043942891521?s=20
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The lame duck session is a dumb idea that needs to be abolished
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TulliusCicero posted:Can't the incoming governor or state government just say "gently caress you, we are doing it anyway" when these fucks are out of power? It's not like they actually care about rules. If Dems won control of the legislature then it wouldn't be an issue, but Republicans held control. The reason Republicans are doing this in the lame duck is they need the republican governor's signature before he's replaced with a democrat, who would veto.
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Feels like I say this every week, but is his brain melting? That Blumenthal tweet is insane
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goethe.cx posted:I'm just saying I don't think there's anything inherently unsanitary about pee bottles, as long as you throw them out before they hit triple digits 
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Didn't expect this https://twitter.com/dannowicki/status/1072564703119970304 I assume that the bill must be bad then?
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Thaddius the Large posted:Actually pretty good and popular, iirc Something good happening while republicans are in charge? Well I'll take it
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Is Mulvaney the guy who has like 10 jobs or am I thinking of someone else?
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Congratulations to the new Secretary of the Interior, Mick Mulvaney
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