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Willa Rogers posted:Yes. The last Dem governor of Illinois signed a pension-slashing bill that was struck down by the state's supreme court. In that case pensions were protected in the state constitution. The more general answer is that it depends on the law of the state in question.
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In Trumpworld "trump preparing to force someone out" just means some other adviser is trying to stick a dagger in their back. Trump's advisers feed "X is on the OUT" stories about each other to the media in an attempt to manipulate Trump into pulling the trigger.
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Nov 13, 2018 04:57
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Lightning Knight posted:I really don't understand why Trump does what he does re: trying to force people out of his administration, Nielsen seems like she's been really effective at getting done what he's wanted done, and yet he wants her gone? Stories like this aren't Trump forcing people out. Stories like this are other people in the administration trying to force people out by starting rumours that they're being forced out. Trump responds to whatever's on television, so if the television says someone has to go . . . . Same thing has been repeatedly tried against a lot of longer term Trump folks (Mattis, Kelly). Rumours don't mean poo poo in this admin till they happen.
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Nov 13, 2018 05:36
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The Glumslinger posted:Does he not realize that Europe building a larger standing army is the end result of him constantly complaining about them not spending enough on NATO? They aren't just gonna mail us a check, they're gonna spend more money on their own army It's even worse. Trump is not interested in understanding that.
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Nov 13, 2018 16:57
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Kale posted:
They take the action first then rationalize it afterward. Eventually the action has to be justified by the legal team, who tell them "no, we can't say x, say y instead." Trump doesn't care he just does. Then everyone else has to clean up after him.
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Nov 13, 2018 21:45
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Did they not consider a scenario where there is a lawsuit and their infowars doctored video would have to stand up to the scrutiny of a court or something? This is something even Ben Shapiro couldnt help but comment on, when theres several other avenues the white house could pursue towards banning a reporter why do they have to just blatantly lie? Is it really that important to them to pursue some sort of "own and annoy the libs" manchild angle like some are suggesting? If so theyre going to continue to give a lot of ground and lose a lot of these battles in the future.
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Nov 14, 2018 15:53
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Deteriorata posted:"Speculating." Which means they don't know anything. That's news in itself though. If she doesn't have it locked down, that's news.
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Nov 14, 2018 20:38
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xrunner posted:Bizzarely enough, he's not even wrong about this (that it potentially benefits Trump, I mean - he's wrong about the rest). It gives Trump an excuse for not getting any of his legislative agenda through, which will probably help him a little in 2020. This is great news! For TRUMP!!!!@@
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Nov 14, 2018 20:42
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eke out posted:It's not crazy to assume something is going on between Corsi's really bizarre behavior this week - talking extensively to the press, promising a huge interview, then his attorney openly telling reporters he's in discussions with the Special Counsel and can't let Corsi talk to the media anymore - and Stone's aggressive leaking of texts to conservative media to try to get ahead of whatever Mueller's got on him. Could still take weeks though, who knows. On the other hand, it's Jerome Corsi. He could just be saying poo poo to get attention.
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Nov 15, 2018 14:31
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Shifty Pony posted:The same issue is present in a lot of other systems across the government too. I believe the systems used to manage federal employee retirement and calculate pension benefits is also absurdly archaic and overburdened to the point that people looking into retiring are encouraged to have several months of living expenses in cash equivalent accounts to ride out the delay. The veteran's administration is only now digitizing the paper files which track veteran's disability claims. At one point a big chunk of the warehouse where the files are kept, burned. Those veterans are hosed. That's actually better than most military billing though because at least raw paper files can be digitized. Most military salaries are run through multiple proprietary essentially undocumented systems from the 1970's that have literally been determined to be prohibitively difficult to upgrade. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/pentagon/#article/part1 https://www.reuters.com/investigates/pentagon/#article/part3 quote:To fix that, the Defense Department has launched 20 or more projects to build modern business-management systems since the late 1990s. At least five were subsequently killed as complete failures after billions of dollars were spent on them. Nine projects now under way or already implemented carry an estimated total cost of $13.9 billion to build and operate, according to the Defense Department comptroller’s office. All of those in use can’t do everything they were supposed to do and are hooked to legacy systems they were supposed to replace. quote:Q: What’s preventing the Pentagon from being audited? edit: D'oh that's the article y'all are discussing, I didn't read up far enough Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Nov 15, 2018 |
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luxury handset posted:i remember in months past when goons would argue about whether or not trump has dementia and if that can even be meaningfully determined or diagnosed Yeah I think I was one of the earlier folks around here making that call (he's had some signs of it since before the election) and it's because I work with those populations and dude is acting just like them Like, I can't diagnose the guy specifically but his brain is not good, not the best brain
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Nov 16, 2018 22:24
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Data Graham posted:
you are, you just got lucky with a better forum
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Nov 18, 2018 22:35
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How loving dumb do you have to be to go there, that's the island where they shoot everyone who comes close
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Nov 21, 2018 19:58
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enraged_camel posted:No one actually answered the main question: is the article insightful? It basically uses Panera Bread as a jumping off point to discuss the problems with Milton Friedman's shareholder theory of value -- that the sole primary duty of a corporation is to enhance [in effect: short term] shareholder value, period, end of story, and everything else (employees, the environment, long-term survival, etc) are secondary. Basically it's capitalism as a long-term prisoner's dilemma; when *everyone* is only seizing short-term advantage, all of society ends up burned on the pyre of each individual's short-term advantage. It's a decent short article as far as it goes. Herstory Begins Now posted:It's really weird how completely the 'increased profits for shareholders above literally all else' thing became the unquestioned almost universal gospel of American business. You'd think it would be moderated by a certain amount of pragmatism, but it literally isn't. Maybe it's compounded by a lot of executives not planning on or expecting to be around long enough to feel the effects of it, but you'd think more people would pause and ask what the gently caress is that going to lead to. When a prisoner's dilemma collapse happens it happens fast.
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Eh, in a technical sense Friedman is correct: his theory of shareholder value accurately describes the legal duties of business executives in the framework of American capitalism. Viewed *descriptively*, he's accurate. A few things are left out of that analysis though, such as that 1) that legal framework could be changed and 2) excessively high executive salaries should inherently violate that same fiduciary duty to shareholders, but somehow that part is just "business judgment" while every socially conscious or long-term decision a CEO might make ("let's not pollute our kid's drinking water?") somehow violates the duty. Basically, the theory is just correct *enough* to be an unassailable pretext for the executives' self-interest. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Nov 26, 2018 |
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Data Graham posted:My question is whether businesses are being actually socially conscious nowadays, i.e. pulling advertising from Fox News shows, taking stands that cause chuds to boycott them, etc; or whether it's all calculated and performative and aimed at shareholder profits in the end anyway Oh, that's gonna happen. The question is whether the system as designed encourages socially conscious behavior or discourages it. The really interesting thing in that article to me was that it pointed out that the most successful companies these days (amazon, facebook, Panera, etc.) have all actively avoided going public until after they were very well established, because they needed to build long-term structural strength and going public too early would have left them eviscerated by short-term-focused vulture capitalism. Our corporate stock system is not structured to encourage long term growth, it's structured to encourage short term cannibalism.
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enraged_camel posted:There is actually no law that dictates business executives must maximize shareholder value. They don't even have a fiduciary duty to do so. Ehhhhhhhhhhhh, but see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_v._Ford_Motor_Co. The duty is there in the caselaw. It's essentially unenforceable because the business judgment rule means that a corporate ceo can defensibly argue almost anything is, ultimately, in the interests of shareholders, but Friedman wasn't just mythologizing out of whole cloth.
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Nov 26, 2018 17:13
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Nov 29, 2018 17:49
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Rex-Goliath posted:ok so just like the obstruction of justice where he loving admitted it on live television because he’s such a dumbass here he is again openly admitting to an impeachable offense You don't get it. Trump did it, so it's not a crime. Crimes are things other people do, not Trump. He's the president, and that means he's a winner.
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Nov 30, 2018 14:33
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Madkal posted:This is the stupid thing. What we know at the moment what he did is technically legal but for the last year or so he has been lying about doing it at all. Like blatantly bold-facedly lying about it, and an innocent man doesn't lie about the things he did do unless he thinks they are illegal. Well, if you're a narcissist who doesn't actually understand the concept of truth because you lack object permanence, then you lie reflexively, but lying to congress and the FBI remains a crime regardless
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Nov 30, 2018 16:51
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Jethro posted:I can't tell if this is a burn or if Abe doesn't know how US elections work. Abe knows. He's Japanese. This is a brutality.
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Nov 30, 2018 18:43
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Prester Jane posted:It's a very subtle (and very Japanese) burn that plays on Trump's delusions by indirectly drawing attention to said delusions without directly contradicting them. Its a very Japanese way of throwing shade. Yeah, it's incredible shade with just enough plausible deniability to maintain the fiction of politesse. He's "with all due respect"-ing the president, basically.
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Nov 30, 2018 20:43
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rscott posted:Maybe everyone can just like, work less https://harpers.org/archive/1932/10/in-praise-of-idleness/
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If Kelly isn't speaking to Trump who is I imagine a dickensian scenario where Trump just wanders the halls of the white House and everyone present just refuses to acknowledge his presence
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Dec 7, 2018 17:52
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evilweasel posted:a very large part of russia foreign policy has been making it clear there are fatal consequences for flipping, why the gently caress would they be like "oh no problem you can flip" It's weird but theoretically possible if they want her to cause maximum chaos.
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Dec 11, 2018 05:35
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Nelson Mandingo posted:More than that, the FBI did studies on this. They basically came to the conclusion in the 1940's that torture doesn't work to gather information. It's dumber than that. Dubya watched too much goddam 24 and ordered torture to happen, that was the extent of the thought process.
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evilweasel posted:a government shutdown is officially happening Oh goddammmmmmjit What a horrible waste, a christmas/ new year shutdown is just perfectly horrible
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Random Stranger posted:
Oh goddammit, that's going to happen isn't it? McConnell breaks when the airports close and Trump doesn't even budge, just sits on his rear end for two weeks to make everyone else suffer in a giant national tantrum.
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Jan 14, 2019 06:25
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mystes posted:It's sort of true in that every day people seem to think the next day will be the reckoning when Trump will be arrested, which is really similar to qanon conspiracy theory stuff. Nobody thinks this, there is no parallel, and peddling that kind of false equivalency means you're making GBS threads up the discourse (regardless of intent). Like, seriously, I don't mean this as a personal dig at any individual poster (yourself included) but https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
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Your Parents posted:Please don't lie. If you go to literally any forum for political discussion from D&D to Twitter to Facebook to any other social media, there are people who write fanfiction about how any day now trump and all the cabinet will be arrested and jailed. Robert Reich and Keith Olbermann both go nuts over this stuff on a weekly basis. Oh STFU with this bullshit. Robert Reich doesn't, at least not on facebook -- he calls for impeachment and eventual prosecution. I know this because I actually read him, which I guess you haven't? I'm sure you can find some idiots somewhere on the internet trying to Meulleratize the Eschaton but it doesn't happen on this forum that I've seen. If you've seen it post a link, but don't confound "Donald Trump will be arrested eventually" with "Donald Trump will be perp-walked tomorrow." The first is realistically fairly probable if we ever return to sane government; the second is conspiracy bullshit (and doesn't exist in a meaningful or mainstream way). If I'm a liar post the link that shows it. Your Parents posted:there's also an active conspiracy about how his entire presidency and cabinet are illegitimate and that somehow they will all be magically removed and replaced by Hillary and crew to save America. If there is, I haven't seen it. As far as I've seen this is just false equivalency threadshitting.. Hieronymous Alloy fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Jan 20, 2019 |
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mobby_6kl posted:Can't comment on Kaiser specifically but these findings aren't at all controversial. People like the idea in general but not when they realize it's gonna cost money. One thing that just happened recently is that In 2018, The Average Family Paid More To Hospitals Than To The Federal Government In Taxes. I think there's room to shift the debate here even given current polling. "Yes your taxes will go up, but your health care will be free. On balance, you'll save money."
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If you oppose dog medical care you're a Republican MFAD or bust
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FoolyCharged posted:I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there confidentially laws that prevent a lot of that from getting released without his consent? I know I had to sign over the rights for my parents to see my college grades at the very least. Yeah this is gonna start a "what were his grades" narrative. Note how incompetent his opponents have been that this wasn't already a thing
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MickeyFinn posted:I remember reading rumors that he wasn't a good student but he did well in the physical part of military academy. I'm also not sure his grades matter anymore, he's a moron and a terrible president on camera daily, who cares if he got a D in chemistry 60 years ago? I suppose you mean during the races, but we see now why they didn't get out. The most interesting aspect to me is how quickly the media was willing to make a narrative out of Obama's and Hillary's undergrad academics, but Trump's grades never even came up till now. Just another data point showing the different standards. If Obama had done literally *any* of the things Trump did, he'd have been impeached.
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I'm sorry, I don't believe the Beto story. I haven't heard a single other mention of any programming skills in his whole story.
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Snazzy Frocks posted:So jussie faked the hate crime but because the cops screwed the case up the charges are just $10k and community service. Seems pretty simple? The problem with that theory is that all the claims supporting the notion that Jussie faked anything -- are sourced through the cops, who we now know were acting in bad faith. At this point possibilities range from "Smollett was entirely innocent of any wrongdoing" to "Smollett did something bad, but whatever it was, the cops appear to have been actively attempting to frame him for something worse".
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Snazzy Frocks posted:Do you think he'd accept paying $10k and community service if he was innocent? Moreso if he was actually attacked in a hate crime? I'm not sure he "accepted" anything. From what I've seen so far this appears to be a unilateral move by the prosecutor. The early claims of a "deal" seem to have been amended/corrected.
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Flesh Forge posted:It occurs to me though, if there are no consequences to Barr putting the report in the shredder, there's no consequences to anybody else down the chain leaking whatever the gently caress they want, excepting strictly classified material, but I think probably most or all of it is classified Consequences in America are only for folks at the bottom, not folks at the top. That said, what's probably going to happen is that once the House gets a copy someone will read the whole thing into the record using congressional immunity.
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Oracle posted:If they don't they deserve every scintilla of scorn that's been shoveled their way. Fair point, it's possible that not a single member of the House Judiciary would be willing to pound gravel, but I think at least one of them will given the roster: Jerrold Nadler, New York, Chairman Zoe Lofgren, California Sheila Jackson Lee, Texas Steve Cohen, Tennessee Hank Johnson, Georgia Ted Deutch, Florida Karen Bass, California Cedric Richmond, Louisiana Hakeem Jeffries, New York David Cicilline, Rhode Island Eric Swalwell, California Ted Lieu, California Jamie Raskin, Maryland Pramila Jayapal, Washington Val Demings, Florida Lou Correa, California Mary Gay Scanlon, Pennsylvania, Vice Chair Sylvia Garcia, Texas Joe Neguse, Colorado Lucy McBath, Georgia Greg Stanton, Arizona Madeleine Dean, Pennsylvania Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, Florida Veronica Escobar, Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_Committee_on_the_Judiciary
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