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awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Your Boy Fancy posted:


Kobach didn't have a ground game, didn't fundraise, didn't do anything except measure the god damned drapes. He got the result that hubris brings.

I love that this is almost literally true

https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article221350970.html posted:

Two weeks out from Election Day when polls showed Kobach in a tight race with Kelly, members of his senior staff did a walk-through of the governor’s office, according to a Republican source.

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awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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eke out posted:

that's what i did, i meant I was quoting so others don't have to bother

A nice easy way to contribute to the slow death of journalism

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awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...51d2_story.html

quote:

The Trump administration has won the support of Mexico’s incoming government for a plan to remake U.S. border policy by requiring asylum seekers to wait in Mexico while their claims move through U.S. courts, according to Mexican officials and senior members of president-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s transition team.

The agreement would break with long-standing asylum rules and place a formidable new barrier in the path of Central American migrants attempting to reach the United States and escape poverty and violence.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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BrandorKP posted:

It's probably time to regulate the internet.
Countries all over the world already do? oh you mean regulate it in a way that suits you as a consumer not them as governments. I've...got some bad news...

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

Quite simply, most journalists that work for these prestigious news orgs are dependent on their government/intelligence sources for their amazing scoops on whether General McRaven thinks Trump is a turd or not. These orgs do not publish stories that can damage those important relationships.

you're wrong about this and it's the difference between RT and news. the washington post publishing the snowden leaks is the biggest example I can think of from this decade.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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tetrapyloctomy posted:

"Trump deserves blame because he has stupid demands, but what about the Democrats who refuse to capitulate with the stupid demands?!"

the tweet has at least generated a decent amount of backlash and discussion about how to improve the journalistic value of fact checks, and how to distinguish fact checks as they're generally thought of (calling someone out when they're attempting to mislead) from 'fact checks' providing information which would only be useful to a person who recently awoke from a 30 year coma

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
thanks for the news
anyway, the reporters are still working
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/fbi-trump-russia-inquiry.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

quote:

F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...m=.c96a6bef6103

quote:

Trump has concealed details of his face-to-face encounters with Putin from senior officials in administration
That's quite a pair of headlines

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Zipperelli. posted:

So does the gov't shutdown affect air travel somehow? How does this work for the TSA? Do they have to work and just not get paid?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/nyregion/tsa-shutdown.html

quote:

The nation’s 51,000 airport security agents are among the federal employees who have been ordered to work through the partial shutdown, which began on Dec. 22.
On Friday, they missed their first paycheck since it started, a lapse that their union leaders feared would cause more of them to stop showing up for work or even to quit their jobs.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
interesting devil-in-the-details analysis from here

quote:

Republicans, badly damaged by the 2017 campaign to repeal the Affordable Care Act, have struggled to craft a powerful message against Medicare-for-all. One argument against it, that it was a "$32 trillion takeover” of health insurance, fell flat in the midterms. A much more promising line of attack is about the bill's implications for private insurance, and the necessity to raise taxes to replace insurance premiums. This month's Kaiser tracking poll found 56 percent of voters backing “Medicare-for-all” — but 60 percent of them opposing “higher taxes,” 60 percent opposing a “threat to the current Medicare program” and 58 percent against “eliminating private insurance companies.”

...

But for Democrats who endured the final years of the Obama presidency, nothing did more political damage than the Affordable Care Act's changes to private plans, many of which were canceled.

So you've got 56% for m4a in principle, but 58-60% against implementing it. The good news is that's not a HUGE gap, but it does seem to indicate that campaigning on "americans want m4a" is a plan with some holes in it. And hey, the republicans did great running on repealing obamacare while ignoring the details - it's just the election after that where things got messy.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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paul manafort has balls of solid rock and unfortunately a brain of solid rock as well
https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1095829540138553351

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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withak posted:

Mr. Manafort is constitutionally incapable of not committing crimes.

he's like the terminator, but instead of murder he does crimes

wait

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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predicto posted:

I hate to be that guy but I can't help it

My first thought is that this feels like that McCain campaign worker who pretended to be assaulted by a black Obama supporter, but the "B" on her face was backwards and she made it all up. Or when Morton Downey Jr. claimed that he was attacked in a bathroom at an airport by nazis but the swastika on his face was backwards. Or when Ryan Lochte claimed he was robbed at the Rio Olympics.

So it's 2 am, its well below freezing in Chicago, and two bad guys who just happen to be out wandering around wearing ski masks looking for a black or gay man to harass while carrying... bleach? Of course, it is possible, but I've become completely cynical about these things.

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https://twitter.com/RobElgasABC7/status/1096197727782924288

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Discendo Vox posted:

My point isn't about what it says, because there's no real reason to engage with what it says when we know it's bad faith and designed (however well or poorly) to abuse our willingness to process its claims.
dangerously close to crying 'fake news', here

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Internet Explorer posted:

Were you asleep when the term "fake news" was started by non-chuds and then got picked up and distorted by the Cheeto-in-Chief? Or do you think we all stan for Fox News?
were you asleep when the original use of fake news was to describe literal fiction created for the purposes of facebook advertising, and then it got used by chuds to dismiss news they dont like? Which is what's happening here - if you don't like who wrote it and you don't like what it says, well, it's probably lies so why bother engaging with it

Discendo Vox posted:

I'm not saying it's fake, I'm saying it's a bad faith medium post by an opposition researcher. C'mon.
Sure, so address it on the merits. For example this is a pretty decent rebuttal and puts my mind to rest about the whole thing

Rigel posted:

Yeah, even if you grant every allegation as an agreed fact and read it in the worst light possible, its definitely not illegal, nor is it really unreasonable. You aren't going to be able to hire skilled staff for a seemingly longshot no-hope primary campaign, and if you are lucky enough to have friends and family putting in a lot of hours helping you, there's nothing wrong with going into debt to reimburse them. Of course, people might ask what you would have done with that debt if you lost, but she won.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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double nine posted:

is maggie haberman a journalist worth reading reporting of? I'm seeing her get a bunch of mentions in my feed but she seems like a generic press pool reporter.

How's her analysis overall? Centrist melt, full communism now, ...?

she does very little analysis in the her nyt work, it's generally very well-sourced reporting of white house machinations. People here despise her because it's straight reporting and her work doesnt make a point of specifically saying "oh by the way, all this poo poo is awful and these people are telling me this stuff to stab each other in the back"

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Hastings posted:

I would buy that argument except her family was involved in the Trump campaign. And she won't say Trump lies. She has a huge conflict of interest.

Her mother worked/works for a ny pr firm that represented trump in/since the 90s, which isn’t really surprising since he was a New York personality. That’s quite a big difference from how you’ve framed it.

Anyway here’s some news
https://mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1101245624115232768

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Cythereal posted:

The day when Germany asks you to take an ambassador back because they're a Nazi.

https://twitter.com/andrewjgregor/s...ingawful.com%2F

it seems like the people who want him gone are actually saying that because he wants them to pay more to nato
https://www.politico.eu/article/us-...fense-spending/

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Hunt11 posted:

Is that actual spend more money on NATO or Trump wanting to be paid the protection money he believes he is owed?
it's actual NATO spend - the US wants each NATO country to spend 2% gdp on defense, which then contributes to NATO capabilities. Germany isn't there and kind of seems to not really want to be there, and the US is unhappy.

(whether it's reasonable for the US to be unhappy about this or not will depend on your understanding of geopolitics, and congrats, you've now given it more thought than the US president has)

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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https://twitter.com/mattzap/status/1109210607432151040
A senior Justice Department official says the special counsel is not recommending -- and did not recommend -- any further indictments.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Kobayashi posted:

I skimmed but gave up after ~20 tweets, what is this getting at?

just this, basically
https://twitter.com/ErikWemple/status/1111742555891396608
(wemple is a media critic)

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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sexpig by night posted:

This is literally the conflict, from his own account.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1111678828428972032

"Hey let him make the calls"

"BUT MY SCOOP...about debate dates..."

"What does it matter? Just let a guy call some people and run it."

"MY SCOOP! TWITTER WILL HEAR OF THIS"

an msnbc employee (dafna) wanted a journalist (yashar) to not publish news so that the DNC could coordinate the DNC's affairs better.

why should an msnbc employee care what the DNC wants, and especially why should an msnbc employee try to convince an unaffiliated journalist to do what the DNC wants?

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Flesh Forge posted:

I don't disagree in principle that the DNC should not get to decide, but them trying to influence how news plays out is not really something to flip out over :shrug:
The issue isn't the DNC trying to convince yashar to not run the story. The issue is the MSNBC editor, who has nothing to do with the DNC and should take pains to avoid seeming to care about the DNC (to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest) was trying to lean on yashar to park the story because the DNC wanted it parked. This gives a strong impression that this editor cares more about keeping the DNC happy than she does about journalism, which is the sort of poo poo fox does.
In the grand scheme of things it's tiny, but in terms of journalistic ethics it's pretty not good. I also don't really think he was flipping out, I think he was talking about/reporting on some (in his view) unethical behaviour from a colleague. He didn't write a story or anything, it's just some tweets.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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WampaLord posted:

Uhh, no? Uber workers are just people trying to earn a wage, they're not stealing union taxi payers jobs themselves by crossing a picket line to take a taxi driver job away from striking taxi workers.

Blame the Uber company/executives for that poo poo, don't blame people trying to earn money to live on.

I’ll blame both the unethical management and the short sighted workers, thanks!

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Oracle posted:

No this is legit, military's been warning them about their potential 5G security issues for years. Then after they found the tiny little microchips on motherboards all that doomsaying took on new urgency.

All the tech companies involved in this story deny it, and no other reporting outfit has collaborated the reporting (and they tried). It is probably not true.

Having said that, you'd be dumb to assume huawei is not in bed with the chinese government (much like you'd be dumb to assume US based vendors don't also have backdoors)

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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https://twitter.com/shearm/status/1141907380982169600

a war with iran seems to rest on whether john bolton can bully donald trump into it or not, so that's cool

e: still, it's a no so far and I'll take it!

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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https://nbcnews.to/2J5KgsU
https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCPolitics/status/1146141642782662656

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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https://mobile.twitter.com/ElizLanders/status/1146084545114116096

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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https://twitter.com/wpjenna/status/1146221349855268865

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug
This is an interesting and deeply reported piece. There's a lot of stuff in here that people will "know" but now there's actual proof and details
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/national-security/cia-crypto-encryption-machines-espionage/
tl;dr the us and west germany owned a company that sold crypto machines around the world, they weakened the crypto so they could decrypt the communications, and they sold the compromised machines to whoever would buy them including all but their closest allies. Explains why they're so upset about huawei being used for 5g - it's only funny when it happens to someone else.

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awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

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Deep story by the nyt on the scale of the administration’s failure

quote:

He Could Have Seen What Was Coming: Behind Trump’s Failure on the Virus

An examination reveals the president was warned about the potential for a pandemic but that internal divisions, lack of planning and his faith in his own instincts led to a halting response.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html

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