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The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.
If you look at the statistics, almost every long term relationship will have at least one partner cheat at some point. True monogamy is the outlier in human relationships. I'm of the opinion that embracing that fact and having semi-monogamous relationships with well communicated rules is much more realistic for long term stability

All I know for certain is that currently I don't have the ability to effectively communicate my emotions well enough for polyamory to work for me

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Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

Queen Combat posted:

That's...not how it works. That's not how any relationship works.

You're going to have to be way more vague as this is entirely too specific

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen

Adiabatic posted:

You're going to have to be way more vague as this is entirely too specific


Yeah, this.

1) Quote a particular post so we know what the hell you're talking about

2) Maybe enlighten us mouth-breathers instead of doing a drive-by mic drop

3) Which part of having an ex-gf cements you as a relationships expert?

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

meatpimp posted:

I don't kinkshame, whatever a person, couple or group agree to is cool by me. But man, we are big sacks of roller-coastering emotions. Just keeping my wife and I on the same page with all of life's stuff can be hard, I'd hate to imagine another variable person thrown into the mix. Seems like stacking the deck for some kind of emotional disaster on one or more fronts.

Um yeah, all the banging sounds fun and all, but when it comes down to actually living that lifestyle no thanks, I can't even imagine the train wrecks some of those relationships end up in. But if you can make it work more power to you.

SeaGoatSupreme
Dec 26, 2009
Ask me about fixed-gear bikes (aka "fixies")
Honestly it feels a lot easier at times. There's more people to share the emotional load with when things go bad. More people to help out around the house, more people for board game nights even if you don't feel like rounding people up.

And when things go good, there's more people to share the load with. :heysexy:

ExplodingSims
Aug 17, 2010

RAGDOLL
FLIPPIN IN A MOVIE
HOT DAMN
THINK I MADE A POOPIE


Poly relationships are great because either they work out, and you can be happy for all those involved in it, or they end up in a very public meltdown and you can enjoy the fireworks.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Applebees Appetizer posted:

Um yeah, all the banging sounds fun and all, but when it comes down to actually living that lifestyle no thanks, I can't even imagine the train wrecks some of those relationships end up in. But if you can make it work more power to you.

All the meaningless sex in the world can't fill an empty void in your life that a true partner can fill.


The only thing about a poly relationship that ever seemed appealing to me was ongoing threesomes but as I said, the two girls I was dating hated each other.

SeaGoatSupreme
Dec 26, 2009
Ask me about fixed-gear bikes (aka "fixies")

ExplodingSims posted:

Poly relationships are great because either they work out, and you can be happy for all those involved in it, or they end up in a very public meltdown and you can enjoy the fireworks.

I loving love reading the drama

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof


:whatup:

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy

Dagen H posted:

Yeah, this.

1) Quote a particular post so we know what the hell you're talking about

2) Maybe enlighten us mouth-breathers instead of doing a drive-by mic drop

3) Which part of having an ex-gf cements you as a relationships expert?

1: the one immediately prior to mine, you know, like a conversation goes. It's treating the SO as an object that has to be "pleased" because of whatever misogynistic chauvinist idea I don't even know what the gently caress

2: gently caress you

3: really, gently caress you, entirely uncalled for and you have no recent ideas about, you know, me, so gently caress you a third time? That's about on par with the December "hysteria" comment on "list of lovely snips people have made" from here.


E: GC4U :stwoon:

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

SeaGoatSupreme posted:

And when things go good, there's more people to share the load with. :heysexy:

Lol. I think it comes down to everyone involved having very healthy self esteem and good communication skills. If anyone involved doesn't have one or both it's not gonna go well me thinks.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

SeaGoatSupreme posted:

Honestly it feels a lot easier at times. There's more people to share the emotional load with when things go bad. More people to help out around the house, more people for board game nights even if you don't feel like rounding people up.

And when things go good, there's more people to share the load with. :heysexy:
Lol

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Queen Combat posted:

1: the one immediately prior to mine, you know, like a conversation goes. It's treating the SO as an object that has to be "pleased" because of whatever misogynistic chauvinist idea I don't even know what the gently caress

I think you're making a lot of assumptions about that post. "Pleasing" your partner can mean any multitude of things and have nothing to do with objectifying anyone.

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
Yeah, it's all context, and it has a :v: so I'll crib to that. For the record, I'm pro- whatever the gently caress you want to do.

The Door Frame
Dec 5, 2011

I don't know man everytime I go to the gym here there are like two huge dudes with raging high and tights snorting Nitro-tech off of each other's rock hard abs.

Applebees Appetizer posted:

I think you're making a lot of assumptions about that post. "Pleasing" your partner can mean any multitude of things and have nothing to do with objectifying anyone.

It sounds like a stand up joke from the 1980's. I thought it was a reference :shrug:

Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen

Queen Combat posted:

3: really, gently caress you, entirely uncalled for and you have no recent ideas about, you know, me, so gently caress you a third time? That's about on par with the December "hysteria" comment on "list of lovely snips people have made" from here.

No, you're absolutely right. That was completely uncalled for. Personal attacks aren't my style. I'm offering my most sincere apology, and I hope you'll accept it.

However:

Applebees Appetizer posted:

I think you're making a lot of assumptions about that post. "Pleasing" your partner can mean any multitude of things and have nothing to do with objectifying anyone.

This was my initial thought, and I would still appreciate clarification of your viewpoint. E: nevermind, just saw your last post.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Queen Combat posted:

1: the one immediately prior to mine, you know, like a conversation goes. It's treating the SO as an object that has to be "pleased" because of whatever misogynistic chauvinist idea I don't even know what the gently caress

2: gently caress you

3: really, gently caress you, entirely uncalled for and you have no recent ideas about, you know, me, so gently caress you a third time? That's about on par with the December "hysteria" comment on "list of lovely snips people have made" from here.


E: GC4U :stwoon:

Funny, My first thought was co-dependence, not sexual objectification.
My second thought was "yeah my wife is a loving handful and there is no way in hell I could handle another one like her in ANY sense. Romantic or platonic."

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica
A poly relationship 12 years ago left me so hosed up that since it ended I haven't had a relationship last more than two dates and can count the number of sexual encounters I've had on one hand.

I don't know if I'll ever be okay enough to let someone in again.

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

Fermented Tinal posted:

A poly relationship 12 years ago left me so hosed up that since it ended I haven't had a relationship last more than two dates and can count the number of sexual encounters I've had on one hand.

I don't know if I'll ever be okay enough to let someone in again.

I feel if someone has a poly relationship in college, live your dreams... But if someone is in a poly relationship and then they want to throw kids into the equation, or even worse they do their own couple thing then have kids and then 1 wants to switch to a poly, then... welcome to years of therapy kids!

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

keykey posted:

I feel if someone has a poly relationship in college, live your dreams... But if someone is in a poly relationship and then they want to throw kids into the equation, or even worse they do their own couple thing then have kids and then 1 wants to switch to a poly, then... welcome to years of therapy kids!

Oh man, there was an MTV documentary about that and there were several "triples" featured and one had kids and they didn't want to find out who was the actual father. Like, jesus dudes this is a seriously bad idea.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:



Noice. posturmixes

keykey
Mar 28, 2003

     

Rhyno posted:

one had kids and they didn't want to find out who was the actual father. Like, jesus dudes this is a seriously bad idea.

Ultra Semen Thunderdome: Battle Royale Edition! :haw:

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Queen Combat posted:

That's...not how it works. That's not how any relationship works.

Thats exactly how most relationships should work actually. Its not about physical or as an object its about living life together. That should and does take a lot of time and energy even if you are having a long distance one like mine is right now.

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

And I wonder why I'm so nervous to try and date. The stories sound nice but the drama seems like a pile of utter bullshit no one should ever deal with.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

I LOVE Musk and his pro-first-amendment ways. X is the future.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Thats exactly how most relationships should work actually. Its not about physical or as an object its about living life together. That should and does take a lot of time and energy even if you are having a long distance one like mine is right now.
I...agree with CI on something?

Wtf.

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.

Fermented Tinal posted:

I don't know if I'll ever be okay enough to let someone in again.

:same:

SeaGoatSupreme
Dec 26, 2009
Ask me about fixed-gear bikes (aka "fixies")

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Thats exactly how most relationships should work actually. Its not about physical or as an object its about living life together. That should and does take a lot of time and energy even if you are having a long distance one like mine is right now.

Two of the right people feels like so much less work than one of the wrong people. This relationship thing we've all got going is a literal joy 95% of the time, and the other 5% is a heart to heart we all come out of feeling good.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



SeaGoatSupreme posted:

My wife and I each have a long term boyfriend / girlfriend or two. We don't really date outside of that. My wife and my girlfriend are besties, and they decided that she should move in with us.

The girlfriend in question has a really hard time actually dating anyone other than me because dudes are boring and bad at conversation. She found someone a few weeks ago and I just met him. He's pretty cool and I'm glad she's dating him.

I expected a much more complicated explanation with a lot more drama but that is remarkably easy. Good for you all. If consenting adults can get along in whatever fashion that is then let them have it. That doesn't affect me personally. If it interferes with the lives of others then I would probably have a problem with it. Not that I am the kind of person that could do what you are doing, I know way too many women that are close friends of my wife who can't find a decent person to be with. If there was any situation where they could have that then how good for them it would be.

Fun fact: I am a product of polygamy (not my parents, but ancestors) :imunfunny:

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

Somewhat Heroic posted:

I expected a much more complicated explanation with a lot more drama but that is remarkably easy. Good for you all. If consenting adults can get along in whatever fashion that is then let them have it. That doesn't affect me personally. If it interferes with the lives of others then I would probably have a problem with it. Not that I am the kind of person that could do what you are doing, I know way too many women that are close friends of my wife who can't find a decent person to be with. If there was any situation where they could have that then how good for them it would be.

Yeah this. I choose this opinion to plagiarize.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Queen Combat posted:

1: the one immediately prior to mine, you know, like a conversation goes. It's treating the SO as an object that has to be "pleased" because of whatever misogynistic chauvinist idea I don't even know what the gently caress
gently caress no, wind your neck in. If that's your takeaway from what Grakkus posted, that's your problem.

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

InitialDave posted:

wind your neck in.

Stealing this.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

InitialDave posted:

gently caress no, wind your neck in. If that's your takeaway from what Grakkus posted, that's your problem.

Well put. I thought that what Grakkus was saying was very close to what I was saying in the post before.

Adiabatic posted:

Stealing this.

Me, too.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

SeaGoatSupreme posted:

Two of the right people feels like so much less work than one of the wrong people. This relationship thing we've all got going is a literal joy 95% of the time, and the other 5% is a heart to heart we all come out of feeling good.

Please note, I am not being critical of you when I said that. If you can make a poly relationship work, that's actually pretty awesome.

quote:

Two of the right people feels like so much less work than one of the wrong people

Yeah given the wreckage of my last relationship that was completely wrong from the get out that I stuck with because *reasons* that statement I can completely comprehend.

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.
Hands up who treated themselves to a pair of expensive, branded windshield blades and then forgot to deice before turning them on?

SeaGoatSupreme
Dec 26, 2009
Ask me about fixed-gear bikes (aka "fixies")
^^ Every. God. drat. Winter. Nothing else behind the wheel angers me like things like that.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

Please note, I am not being critical of you when I said that. If you can make a poly relationship work, that's actually pretty awesome.


Yeah given the wreckage of my last relationship that was completely wrong from the get out that I stuck with because *reasons* that statement I can completely comprehend

Oh no, I didn't take offense at all. , I was just remarking on the relative ease in comparison to my other relationships, both mono and poly. *reasons* gently caress up a lot of things for a long time, I'm right there with you.

Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica

keykey posted:

I feel if someone has a poly relationship in college, live your dreams... But if someone is in a poly relationship and then they want to throw kids into the equation, or even worse they do their own couple thing then have kids and then 1 wants to switch to a poly, then... welcome to years of therapy kids!

Thankfully no kids, that wasn't even a remote possibility, though we'd fantasized about it.

I got gaslit for several years, they had me convinced I was someone I wasn't, that I was something I wasn't and I went along with it because I was stupid and thought I was in love.

Even after years of therapy I'm basically just functional enough to get through the day, have some really hosed up worldviews, make poor decisions constantly, and am completely unable to formulate even a vague answer as to who or what it is I am.

I am utterly terrified of having it happen all over again.

Fermented Tinal fucked around with this message at 00:09 on Jan 31, 2019

Shut up Meg
Jan 8, 2019

You're safe here.

Fermented Tinal posted:

and am completely unable to formulate even a vague answer as to who or what it is I am.

Ooh, ooh! I know the answer to this one:

You are Fermented Tinal.

An awesome person who deserves good things to happen to them.

And they will.

quote:

I am utterly terrified of having it happen all over again.

The only thing in this life that you should be worried about happening again is head gasket failure.

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-uae-used-cyber-super-114049913.html

Where's your Apple god now? :laugh: (not a repeat from yesterday)

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


went to the local mega-hardware store to get some lightbulbs. CFLs are almost completely gone which is good, but the light bulb aisle was around 50% LED, and for some reason about 50% incandescent. I thought we defeated that evil.

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Fermented Tinal
Aug 25, 2005

by Pragmatica

Powershift posted:

I thought we defeated that evil.

Silents and Boomers.

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