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Typo posted:also there won't be an actual war, this is one of those "leader A and leader B both need to look tough" so some dudes on the front line are gonna die to satisfy public blood-lust situations It's one of those "could trigger anti Muslim pogroms across India and could cause Kashmir to explode situations"
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2019 01:36 |
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Frog Act posted:how many thousands of Muslims were murdered in the 2002 pogroms? with the BJP in power across the board a repeat of those kinds of atrocities seems like a distinct possibility theres been several intermittent riots, lynchings, beatings and poo poo in the last few years. god knows how many cases of unreported hate crimes to go with em
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2019 01:46 |
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cargo cult posted:has pakistan ever benefitted from a military confronation with india? Define Pakistan The overall citizenry, no Confrontation with India is what led to the army dominating the country so it's pretty good for the generals
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2019 01:59 |
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The only good thing that could come of this is this is enough of an embarrassment to crash the modi government in the election but they have complete institutional support from the media and the elites so idk
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# ¿ Feb 27, 2019 15:23 |
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epic bjp twitter bot posts
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 06:32 |
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cargo cult posted:modi is such a loving embarrassment too bad congress is a nepotistic succlib institution too incompetent to function as credible opposition indian politics isn't a two party cartel like America's. Any party that governs has to do it in a multi party coalition. The last time Congress was in power (and any future realistic Congress path back to it) was in coalition with left wing parties, including Marxist ones. That put some severe handbrakes on liberalism, which is why the business elites went full hindutva and most of the media channels backed modi in the last election and how they got the funding for the massive social media presence they have mila kunis has issued a correction as of 15:36 on Feb 28, 2019 |
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Like the bjp got insane amounts of funding off of business wanting to kick Congress out and used it to to launch one of the best propaganda campaigns of this century. their social media and online game is nuts, they probably hired a bunch of expensive cambridge analytical style consultants to help em. the #sayyestowar lunatics are a direct outgrowth of that, it wasn't this bad before last election's campaign
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 15:48 |
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Finally a voice of sanity
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 21:28 |
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https://twitter.com/pid_gov/status/1101077823987613697?s=19 Seems good maybe it'll put a crimp in modi's plans to beat the war drums to an election victory oh
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 21:38 |
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SOURCES: PAKISTAN HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO RELEASE PILOT lmao imagine being this loving ungrateful for the release of a pow
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 21:40 |
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no idea but Imran Khan was pretty hot back in the day
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 21:42 |
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 21:43 |
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Typo posted:my indian friend told me that in northern india all politics is just insider families pretending to be political parties (i.e the INC is owned by the ghandi family) and in southern india all politics are celebrities like movie stars being elected it varies a lot and is pretty chaotic. It breaks down along ethnic, religious, caste lines - in any city a neighbourhood will probably be controlled by street muscle from the dominant group there, who choose to give their allegiance to a party based on historical ties or who can buy them off the best. the Gandhi's may 'own' the INC but there's a lot of power devolution between leadership and what happens on the street level. If the leadership is perceived as too weak or does something to piss the street muscle off there'sr splits into regional parties (that's why there's a thousand parties called Congress) or the leadership gets couped (what Modi did to the 90s era bjp leaders)
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 21:52 |
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Typo posted:my pakistani friend also told me in the imran khan election the army literally drove trucks up to polling stations to collect ballots, to ensure no irregularities occur Remember musharaff? His story's pretty funny. He started the kargil war, hosed it up, and got sacked. Instead of accepting it he decided to coup the Pakistani pm This time the army was cleverer and decided to soft coup the pm through ballot rigging. The pm each time was a guy called Nawaz Sharif. You might think he's unlucky, but actually he's the luckiest guy in the world, because if the army really hate you they'll outright kill you like they did to benazir Bhutto, and also her dad zulfiqar (the last left wing leader in Pakistan, rip)
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 21:57 |
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heres a bbc podcast on benazir butto's assasination and the army coverup btw, its really good: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05r6cgx/episodes/downloads i spent a long time reading about pakistani politics because its nuts and pretty entertaining
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 21:58 |
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Willie Tomg posted:to what degree d'you reckon #sayyestowar is an actually grounded thirst for war over kashmir in india as opposed to bougie BJP people holding the party line? as always, india isnt a monolith and it probably depends. breaks down along class, ethnic, regional and religious lines: - muslim indians probably dont want it, for obvious reasons - middle class indians in general have more leisure time and tvs so cable news has rotted their brains because every single channel is more or less FOX - south indians have a very different culture from the rest of india and identify less with india as a country, so hypernationalism doesnt work there to the same extent - lots of street level party activists only care about pakistan only insofar as its an excuse to pogrom/harass/loot muslims or just have a good ol fashioned effigy burning or riot
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 22:12 |
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if you guys want a dose of raw cancerous hypernationalist racists, i present to you my favourite forum in the world, pakdefense https://defence.pk/pdf/
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2019 22:18 |
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South India has had riots and people dying over the imposition of Hindi. To this day India has a structured mishmash of different forms, procedures blah blah in different languages for different regions instead of a unified official language. Mass illiteracy doesn't help of course
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2019 00:14 |
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Willie Tomg posted:when you say hypernationalism doesn't work in south india, do you mean it in a "south india will materially resist this dumbfuck war" sense, or in the sense that american bougie liberals 50/50 broke for/against the iraq war, but then when it started they mostly liked it, but then when it was clear the united states lost it became bad again? because, historically, wars have been a pretty good way to fuse people together in performing the stupidest possible human activity. in the sense that they won't give a gently caress and just go about their lives for the most part quote:do you percieve any humanist counterpush in the middle class, or is it just BJP chuds all the way down? chuds and chudlites outside of south and northeast India, which are very different culturally keep in mind that I'm not actually indian or pakistani, these are my impressions from visiting the region, talking to a lot of people and reading a lot
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2019 07:20 |
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Typo posted:haha south Indians has rioted and people have died over having nationalism imposed on them.
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2019 07:22 |
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e: someone pointed out to me that there's sort of a hip young liberal undercurrent that hates hindutva and the bjp amongst affluent youth in Mumbai or wherever but they're probably a minority of a minority of the bourgeoisie, and even they probably keep their mouths shut out of fear of being beaten up when it comes to not hating Pakistan. here's a popular Indian online comedy group that kind of represents that demographic making fun of modi's demonetization disaster, I guess it's kind of funny (Turn on subtitles) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqwVOWYJSxw
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2019 07:30 |
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Tamil Nadu for example might not have Punjab's secessionist history but tamilians identify as Tamil way more than they do as indian (this is pretty true for most regions but really intense there). There's a reason none of the national parties have any seats in their legislative assembly despite their main regionalist party (the dmk) splitting into two Fun fact, the leader of the opposition in Tamil Nadu is a guy called stalin E: my bad, apparently the Congress has like 5% of the seats in the Tamil Nadu assembly. My point still holds though mila kunis has issued a correction as of 18:37 on Mar 1, 2019 |
# ¿ Mar 1, 2019 18:34 |
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._K._Stalin
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2019 18:35 |
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Jose posted:What did happen with the demonetization in the end? https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/09/india-demonetization-debacle.html
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2019 02:50 |
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cargo cult posted:maybe i'm exaggerating but my dad's dad was a sincere stalinist joseph or MK stalin from tamil nadu?
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2019 06:41 |
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lmao i just remembered this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_(2006_film)
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2019 06:41 |
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Smirking_Serpent posted:sometimes it seems like all of history just ends up being about a contest of strength. It's easy for posters like me to complain about human rights abuses and democracy and stuff but I kinda get where tankies are coming from. Your enemies will have no mercy so why should you? thai royalism
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2019 07:03 |
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If you can speak Bengali in Bangladesh today, thank a Russian.
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2019 22:26 |
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Typo posted:In the 1980s and 1990s, Kerala’s migrant workers found employment building highways and skyscrapers in the gulf. These days, their better-educated successors fill jobs overseas as accountants, nurses, lawyers, doctors and mid-level civil servants. More than a third of Kerala’s gross domestic product last year came from remittances. note that typo is a committed anti socialist moron and incapable of giving credit where it's due. Kerala's government is pretty unique among state governments in India in actually using it's revenue for social devlopment, medical care and welfare effectively instead of it just being eaten up by corruption.
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# ¿ Mar 4, 2019 21:22 |
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https://twitter.com/SirJadeja/status/1102644077483433988 https://twitter.com/Not_Your_Kiu/status/1102631502171594752 https://twitter.com/Godzilla_Amigo/status/1102595707372896256 repeatedly saluting the flag to own the librandus
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2019 03:20 |
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shut the gently caress up librandu
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2019 03:20 |
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Typo posted:also who the gently caress do people think Pakistan being "constantly at war with" no, its their own home grown insurgents, islamists and the pak taliban https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Zarb-e-Azb
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2019 01:26 |
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they also havent had a 'real' war with india since 71, just been low intensity crap and occasional flashpoints like kargil
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2019 01:27 |
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svenkatesh posted:did an AI write this comment? what the gently caress does this poo poo mean lmao its the dude claiming the indian military using rape as a weapon against kashmiris is fake news. welcome to cspam my man. #jaihind #modisarkar Darth Walrus posted:Depends how much of that money is getting to Kashmiri Muslims, I'd imagine. In forms other than better-equipped rape squads, anyway. svenkatesh posted:Fake news.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2019 04:47 |
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the #librandus in dnd stumped by one man's devastating logic; rape is preferable to outright genocide.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2019 04:51 |
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Indian elections come to an end today. The only thing standing to block a modi government is a party that used the bjp's own tactics (lumpenprole violence) to turf the communists out of power in Bengal.
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# ¿ May 19, 2019 13:40 |
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BJP landslide. Looks like India's #saidyestowar
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# ¿ May 19, 2019 21:41 |
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How the BJP made inroads in a state that's been traditionally hostile to it https://scroll.in/article/924510/amar-saffron-bangla-five-reasons-for-the-bjps-surge-in-bengal Seems like the answer is: they have a shitload of money and dominated social media lol
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# ¿ May 25, 2019 17:38 |
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https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2019/05/19/india-another-china-or-another-brazil/quote:Sales of cars and SUVs have slumped to a seven-year-low. Tractors and two-wheelers sales are down. Net profits for 334 companies (excluding banks and financials) are down 18% year-on-year, according to the Financial Express newspaper. The vehicle industry’s rapid expansion under the Modi government had prompted predictions that India would soon overtake Japan and Germany to become the world’s third-biggest motor market. But last month, passenger vehicle sales were 17.7% lower than a year before. quote:That’s not all. In March, passenger growth in the world’s fastest growing aviation market expanded at the slowest pace in nearly six years. Demand for bank credit has spluttered. Hindustan Unilever, India’s leading maker of fast moving consumer goods, has reported March quarter revenue growth of just 7%, its weakest in 18 months. quote:Indeed, India has the lowest productivity levels in Asia. Between 1950 and 1980, labour productivity growth averaged a meagre 1.7%. The two decades to the turn of the millennium saw that average more than double to 3.8%. This was the period when India’s manufacturing and services sectors took off, leaching labour from the lower productivity agricultural sector. Labour productivity growth peaked at 10.2% in 2010 and has been on the decline since. In 2016, it stood at 4.75%. This does not bode well for achieving the growth targets that are needed to raise living standards. quote:Already, India is one of the most unequal societies in the world. The richest 1% of Indians now own 52% of the country’s wealth, according to the latest data on global wealth from Credit Suisse Group. The richest 10% of Indians have increased their share of the pie from 68.8% in 2010 to 77% by 2018. In sharp contrast, the bottom half of the Indian people own a mere 4% of the country’s wealth. quote:Under Modi, unemployment is at an all-time high. The “Make in India” plan seems to have flopped. And no Boeing, Airbus or Apple has come to invest in factories in India. Pretty stunning that an incumbent government got re-elected with an even larger majority under those conditions under their rule. Doesn't seem India's going anywhere good
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 23:28 |
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/05/24/modis-message-was-simple-hindus-first/quote:In Ranchi, a 24-year-old job seeker told me he hated “all politicians except one.” I didn’t even need to ask who. He said it wasn’t Modi’s fault that he remains jobless even though he has a degree in software engineering. “What can he do?” said the young man, a member of the traditionally discriminated-against Dalit caste. He refused to believe that unemployment hit a 45-year high under Modi’s regime. “That’s not true,” he said. He also said he was sure that fewer jobs were available in the pre-Modi government led by the Indian National Congress party. “Not true,” I said. He said a man has to blame himself if he can’t find a job, not the government. “Not everyone is eligible for a job,” he said. Then he left. materialism is dead
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