Ritznit posted:

As a newbie dumbass, I gotta ask: How realistic is it to beat NED with four Berserkers?

Bregor posted:

First job is Knight!

My first ever FJF was Knight/Zerk, and I risked, so I'm probably due for a repeat

Action George posted:

I got a full part of Black Mage/Red Mage/Geomancer/Chemist. Pretty much the exact opposite of my normal play style in RPGs of picking mindless fighter types. Guess I have some studying to do to figure out how to use these classes.

Some Guy TT posted:

And Geomancer to close it out. So...hm, can Black Mage / Berserker / Geomancer triple crown? Omega seems doable, if difficult, but I'm not seeing any obvious path for Shinryu short of power-leveling. How low level can I go for just NeoExdeath? I'm side-eying that "combined party levels under 100" challenge.

Kyrosiris posted:

Well yeah, but if your first action as soon as they're available isn't to sell all the cruft in your inventory and buy four pairs of kicks, why are you even playing FFV?

agradine posted:

Haven't seen any name based toxxes, so I guess I'll be the first.

In honor and memory of the sadly now defunct Let's Play 25 30 Years of Final Fantasy thread by the Good Friends, Ryan and Claire, I will donate $1 for every goon that completes a run with their main character called "Butes" (as pronounced in your finest Southern California accent), up to a total of $25 $30.



Edit: I will also accept other Good Friends references, in case FRON is more your speed.

Edit2: Apparently I missed the first name-based , nothing wrong with coming second!

Ritznit posted:

Alright, time for me to bust out a DONATION PLEDGE


I will donate 5$, up to 50$ (unless I find more money in the seat cushions when I move next week) for every goon who triple-crowns without Time Mage, Chemist, Bard or Beastmaster. As far as I understand, those are the most effective options for crazy boss shenanigans. I know there are others, and I don't want this to be completely impossible, just no playing with the super broken stuff. I'm happy to donate for anyone who is willing to go through a bit of extra hassle.

Please provide screenshots of your full party with their equipped jobs and kill screens for the bosses! Extra thumbs up from me if you give a quick rundown of how you beat the bosses.

Godspeed. For a good cause!

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Anyway I realized part way through this is that I'm the only person I know who turns off ATB. Um,

Bregor posted:

Just rolled Pure Chaos, got Time Mage / Black Mage / Mystic Knight / Berserker

Hellioning posted:

Bleh. I apparently forgot to save last night and now I have to kill liquidflame with three spearless dragoons and a geomancer again.

Man that kills a lot of motivation.

mp5 posted:

My understanding is the dancer won't get Encircled if they are immune to Instant Death, which the Ribbon does.

This helps, thanks!

e: What's this Bone Mail bug you're referring to?

e2: On GBA in case that matters

Lurdiak posted:

Any Tips & Tricks for defeating Omega with Blue Mage, Geomancer, Dragoon and Canoneer? I sold Trident like a dumb.

derra posted:

Phoneposting, but I'll redo my pledge from last year. I'll pull it up tonight if no one beats me to it.

Edit: got it

 I pledge to donate 5 dollars (once per person, max $50) for everyone who meets all the following requirements: 

1) Triple Crowns 
2) with a total party level under 100 and 
3) with no individual party member having a level greater than 30. 

Include a screenshot of your final levels! 

After 4 years, I'm at 82 triple crowns in a row, all but the first 2 chaos. Think I'll push for the big 100.

Samuel Clemens, blakelmenakle, Orange Fluffy Sheep, Osci

grieving for Gandalf posted:

do I care about getting Hermes Sandals as much if I have the Masamune? I'm trying to cut down on my gil-grinding, I want to get Coral Rings for attempting Shinryu

Bregor posted:

Re-rolled Advance, got Thief / Mystic Knight / Bard / Gladiator. Never used a Gladiator before, looking forward to it. Also gonna job fair MK since I just had it on my last run, and Bard is essentially a free NED/Omega win.

Lurdiak posted:

Well I beat Omega a few days ago, but Shinryu keeps kicking my Blue/Dragoon/Geomancer/Cannoneer team's rear end. Should I just grind some levels out or is there something I'm missing?

blinking beacon nose posted:

Dualcast + Gold Hairpin is literally two for the price of one

But then again you only really get Kmart-level spells with Red so

Archenteron posted:

Quadzerk update: ground to level 43 to kill sandworm. Moonwalked though the rest of the game up to Twintania. I have my thornlets (SNES version), half my aegis, am currently L49, and am starting to question my sanity.

Fortunately I have no shortage of podcasts to grind during but I'm still trying to find a good spot to actually do that now.

Kheldarn posted:

He's not much better.

Honestly, Boco is the best character, followed by Bartz, then Faris.

Kheldarn posted:

He's the absolute worst. Between Sqeenix shoehorning him into every game they can, and idiots calling him Greg… Ugh.

Odysseus S. Grant posted:

I've run up against something of a Brick Wall with World 2 Exdeath with a party of White Mage/Red Mage/Ranger/Oracle (using the fiesta patch). I can handle the first phase just "fighting fair" with healing and buffing so he starts dispelling rather than attack. But once he hits phase 2 his damage pretty much just one-shots anyone he targets. I've got two staves of light for the staff users (and a spare, because I got lucky), but I was dumb and didn't want to grind for reflect rings, and I'm out of elemental rods to break. The party is level 26 currently, do I just need to start grinding?

Zenithe posted:

Speaking of validation, how long does it normally take? It's been a coupla days since I submitted the victory photo.

ZypherIM posted:

With my thief/summoner/ninja/samurai layout, about the only worthwhile thing to toss to summoner would be agi from thief right? Most of the other things are either granted from the classes passively or are about making guys hit harder from what I can tell.

derra posted:

Samuel Clemens posted:

Yeah, probably not doing that again.

Not because of Enuo, who for all his grandstanding turned out to be fairly manageable, but because the Sealed Temple itself is a tedious place to traverse. I don't know if Square lost all of its good level designers, if they rushed out the bonus content, or if there's simply no way to challenge high-level parties without it coming across like a grind. In any case, navigating a giant maze filled with repetitive and far too frequently occuring random encounters and containing lots of pointless treasure chests (Who gets excited about finding a Blitzshot?) is not my idea of fun. Especially since you have to backtrack quite a few times to complete everything. The bosses were a decent challenge though.



None more than Neo Shinryu, who took me a few attempts. His insane speed (double-turning hasted characters) and varied attack pattern made it very hard to react. I initially tried !Combine for Slow Cannon, but Slow doesn't seem to really do anything in the fight, which makes me assume that every time Neo Shinryu switches from vulnerable to invulnerable, he loses the debuff. So I went with four Mixers instead. Once you have all buffs in place, it's just a matter of keeping your health up. The Force Shield was a great help too, until the dragon switched to physical attacks, at which point the Genji Shield and Mini combo guaranteed victory.



Speaking of the Force Shield, Omega Mark 2 was surprisingly disappointing. Aside from higher stats and the Barrier Change gimmick (which Cannoneers don't care about), he seemed to be an exact clone of the original one. Meaning I could apply the same strategy with no issues.

Class breakdown:

Thief was mandatory of course, but even if you didn't require Sprint, I'd still want one for the bonus dungeon. The combination of a guaranteed escape skill and back attack prevention cuts down on the tedium by a lot. I probably wouldn't have presevered if I had to fight everything in my way. And since !Mix and !Combine don't care much about your stats, the Thief was an excellent support unit as well.

The Beastmaster was the other required class and probably the weak link of the team. !Release at this stage only helped through releasing Crystelles for Mighty Guard, and !Control is generally too slow to help in random encounters. Still, I made good use of the Dragon Whisker in the Neo Shinryu fight, and even in the worst case the class was still doing okay with !Combine.

Chemist is easily the strongest class to have for the bonus bosses, and probably the only one that allows you to clear Neo Shinryu at a sub-50 level, barring some Freelancer shenanigans. Double HP, Protect, Shell, Haste, Reflect, Death Protection, and being able to reach level 99 was extremely important in most fights. I could also cheese Archeodemon by casting Reflect on him and Lifeshield on my party, rendering his entire gimmick moot.

As for Cannoneer, I think you could make the case for it being the best fourth class to take into the Sealed Temple. The Summoner gives you better defensive options through Golem and Carbuncle, the Time Mage more actions through Quick, but the Cannoneer has both excellent damage when combined with a Chemist and the only reliable way to slow. The ability to equip Shields (particularly the amazing Force Shield) also shouldn't be underestimated.

Now I don't know if I should attempt the Cloister of the Dead. I've never done it before, and a boss rush mode sounds like fun, but I'd probably have to farm some more monster ingredients, and I'm honestly kind of done with this team.