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eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Let's say those CD's the cops found in a safe really are the blackmail videos. Does Epstein dying today really stop those from coming out? If a judge has already ruled for those 2000 pages to be released, will they go out of their way to stop it because the defendant dropped dead?

This is a real question--what's the precedent for this kind of stuff in mob/racketeering cases?

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eshock
Sep 2, 2004

What's the odd thing we're supposed to notice about the logo?

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Has anyone listened to the premium episode of TrueAnon, and is it worth subscribing to?

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Here's what I wanna know: El Chapo's lawyer looks like a young, attractive woman. Is that the same young, attractive lawyer that spent private time in the locked room with Epstein, or was that someone else?

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2019/08/27/the-oligarch-threat/

Really good article about how the reporting around the Cambridge Analytica hack and the Mueller investigation were unprepared/unequipped to tackle the nature of the elite power networks that drive the surface-level scandals we occasionally see bubble to the top of the news.

You'll never guess who shows up!

quote:

From time to time, a scandal emerges that gives us a glimpse of this deeply interconnected, secretive realm of power wielded by the ultra-rich. The Miami Herald’s recent investigation of Jeffrey Epstein by Julie K. Brown revealed the existence of a company he was involved in named Carbyne. Ostensibly, Carbyne supplies tools for use by emergency services, such as geolocation devices and equipment for live video feeds, but much of this material doubles very effectively as surveillance technologies. The company was founded by the former Israeli general and politician Ehud Barak; its investors and board members are a who’s who of the private security world, and include Peter Thiel and his Palantir co-founder, Trae Stephens, Pinchas Buchris, Michael Chertoff, and, of course, Erik Prince.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

drat. So if I join the CIA they'll teach me how to levitate?

I don't think that's actually Rusty hovering around on the island, he's just piloting a drone.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Real hurthling! posted:

that dementia guy in the mother jones article said jeff was already on the cabals radar years before barr hired him at dalton. he said epstein was playing piano in the early seventies at mossad connected guys mansions.

by the mid seventies when hes strutting around dalton hes dressed like broadway joe namath with furs and chest hair and gold chains

he was connected long before he pops up in history

Yeah, confirmation from the dementia guy was nice to have but Donald Barr was the guy that hired him at Dalton, obviously he was on their radar before then.

Daily Beast had a good article from a few months ago that I didn't see pop up yet, it goes into Epstein's family and early years more thoroughly than anything I've already seen. For instance, I didn't realize that he dropped out of both Cooper Union AND NYU. A truly staggering case of failing upwards.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffrey-epstein-dodged-questions-about-sex-with-his-dalton-prep-school-students

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Bulgakov posted:

the dead man switch was prolly his NYC safe filled with blackmail material, but he was ultimately naive about his position in global power dynamics, and he didn't believe or understand that cops/ intel agencies might only securely archive the evidence before shredding the physical media then telling a jury that all the discs were too damaged to be read


etc

His dead mans switch was probably Ghislane tbh, who is also dead.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

This new video implicates Dersh--if it wasn't clear he was getting limited hangouted before it is now, ahahahahahahaha

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Biggest hint for me that Epstein was connected to Mossad was Ehud Barak being all over the flight logs and visiting the NY townhouse well after Epstein's conviction. Either the Mossad had a finger in what was going on or Barak was a blackmail target, and I just don't think Epstein (or even the CIA) could get away with the latter if the Mossad weren't onboard.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

I was going to post the original article but it's paywalled:

https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207322612759695365
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207323205150658560
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207323281789014017
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207323986113310720
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207324400548286464
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207324601577091072
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207324670090973189
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207327651242938370
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207327701608095746
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207328582130896896
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207329237985906688
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207329385721847809
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207329864249942016
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207329983783415810
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207330197952978944
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207330631291691008
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207330904839987205
https://twitter.com/johnjcook/status/1207330953489719297

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Did Dersh's grandson go to Harvard? There was a Cum Town episode where they told a story they heard from someone at the Harvard Lampoon: they had a friend who lost their virginity on Little St. James, and he flew there with his grandfather on the Lolita Express. I don't remember anything else about the episode sorry.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Archive.is seems down--does anyone have another source for the Kusher posts?

I have to get a little skeptical when people say Kushner was "unknown" in 07--Gawker had it out for him since at least 06 up until they got shut down. This included the peak period of their popularity so I'm sure that filtered out into a lot of other media and forums. Plenty of people have known and hated him for a long time!

eshock has issued a correction as of 15:08 on Aug 24, 2020

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

It looks like Naomi Campbell planted a bunch of PR stories about building an "Egyptian Eye of Horus" mansion on an island that were completely fake. As in, someone went to the island and the house doesn't exist and the local government went on record saying it doesn't exist and they would not have allowed her to build there.

The architect she cited seems to be very well-connected despite not having much of a mainstream profile. His Wikipedia page is clearly astroturf.

Anyway I'm sure it's nothing.

edit: the house in question:

eshock has issued a correction as of 21:46 on Aug 24, 2020

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

nut posted:

If you seriously were wondering who could be next after Epstein and Ghislane in terms of someone deeply involved and likely knowing a lot of compromising information I guess it'd be easy to argue that Leslie Wexner or Jean-Luc Brunel

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

nut posted:

Yeah Dan Blizarian (sp?) is highly suspect, similar to Andrew Tate, a MMA guy with some weird cult following and who used to date Jordan Peterson's daughter I think

Good point--isn't that guy also a PUA? Seems like really ripe territory for a honeypot scheme.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Professorjuggalo posted:

isn’t dan blizarian a fail son who pays sex workers to pretend that they’re by choice? I swear I read up about it years ago when redditors were acting like he’s the giga alpha

The deal w him is allegedly when he throws down large sums of money to gamble he is laundering that money for others.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

quote != edit, sorry

Also has been busted in the past for weapons trafficking and often travels w sex workers. Like the 3 top ways to move money around!! If he's not an op the CIA is missing an opportunity, he'd be a great one.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

https://twitter.com/0ddette/status/1306187506115842049

https://twitter.com/0ddette/status/1306187740934012928

https://twitter.com/0ddette/status/1306191388938305536

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

gradenko_2000 posted:

wait is "MEGA" in the watermark a reference to the MEGA Group?

It's apparently these guys, which is itself kind of a crack ping.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

There's something fishy imo about "Julie's" story in here:

quote:

She told me she sat in on a meeting in Paris between Epstein and Leslie Wexner, the founder of L Brands and Victoria’s Secret who says Epstein embezzled at least $46 million from him. This was early in Epstein and Wexner’s relationship, not long after the two had been introduced by insurance tycoon Robert Meister. Epstein began working for Wexner in the late 1980s, though the nature of that work still isn’t entirely clear. Vanity Fair in 2003 said it was “related to cleaning up, tightening budgets, and efficiencies.” Julie told me Epstein was helping to track down employees who Wexner believed were “stealing” money from him at L Brands headquarters. “Leslie had said to him: ‘I have a problem in my company—there’s something wrong, someone is stealing from me. Would you fly out to Ohio’—and, of course, that’s like hell for Jeffrey, going to Ohio–‘would you fly to Ohio for several months going over all my books with a fine tooth comb and find out what’s going on?'”

On the plane to Paris, Epstein prepped Julie for the meeting. It was just going to be the three of them—Epstein, Wexner, and Julie. (Julie wasn’t attending in any official capacity. She was meeting some friends in Paris, and Epstein invited her to catch a ride with him on Wexner’s plane.) She recalled a nervous and excited Epstein telling her to be on her best behavior, worried that she might say something that would make him look bad, and emphasizing how important this meeting was.

“Wexner was this super-successful guy who didn’t really have any life, and Jeff described him to me as completely socially inept,” Julie said. ”Jeffrey was like, ‘Look at me now, wow, look at where I am,’ and it was exciting for him.”

The meeting, at least to Julie, was nothing momentous. “I remember meeting Leslie at the cafe, and all he did was eat peanuts out of the little peanut tray. And I remember, just to try and make him feel comfortable, I ate the peanuts with him….It was so incredibly awkward,” said Julie. Leslie was shy, quiet, and the meeting was short and uncomfortable—few words shared, no food served, the trio sustaining themselves on peanuts alone. In all, it was an uneventful evening, but looking back now, one can see why Epstein had been so excited about cozying up to Wexner. “Jeffrey told me, ‘This guy [Wexner] has everything in the world, but he doesn’t have anyone to share it with,’ and Jeffrey knew all the girls in the world.” That was Epstein’s MO, Julie said. “He’d take some rich guy and introduce him to a girl.”

This firsthand, eyewitness account of how Epstein and Wexner met contradicts the narrative Whitney Webb puts forth in MintPress series, where Lexner with his CIA connections brings Epstein into the fold and gradually turns over the blackmail op to him. It paints Wexner, a guy who had already turned Victoria's Secret into a worldwide empire, as someone who needed to go outside his company, to a stranger, to get girls?

I can't tell what's more likely. There are a few possibilities:

1) Julie's account, which matches the mainstream media narrative (sneaky Epstein took advantage of doddering old billionaire), is correct, and Whitney Webb is wrong about Wexner's history/the basis of his relationship with Epstein.
2) Julie is telling the truth--Epstein and Wexner were lying to her and putting on a bit of a show. This sounds plausible to me if Jeffery (still not publically known or mega-rich yet) wanted this woman to be a part of his life and needed to give her a plausible reason for why he was suddenly going to be seeing a lot more of Wexner.
3) Julie is doing a disinformation op. Here's how the author introduces her:

quote:

By far the most eager sharer was an actress who had met Epstein in the early ’80s, before he’d gotten super-rich, and who maintained a decades long close friendship with him as he rose into the ranks of the elite. She asked that we not use her real name—we will be calling her Julie.

Julie’s name did not have any particularly special notation in the book. She’s not famous, by any means, and as far as I know she hasn’t ever talked to any other reporter or media outlet. “I like talking to you, I don’t really want to talk to anyone else,” she told me at one point. “How old are you? You’re like my therapist.”

quote:

There are two things that make Julie’s story unique. One, unlike many of Epstein’s friends, she is not a famous or known person. No reporter would know about her unless they did what I did and called every single person in the black book.

Which, in the context of this earlier interaction he had:

quote:

I tried a couple more people, none of whom picked up, whereupon I was interrupted by a call from a restricted number. The guy on the line said he was with the FBI. He said there were “reports of fraudulent phone calls” being made on this line, which I immediately understood as bullshit—I wasn’t committing any phone crime or trying to trick someone into doing so. “I don’t know about fraudulent, but I have a feeling I know what you’re talking about,” I said, undoubtedly sounding cool, relaxed, unbothered. He then said, “I have a real call coming in,” to what sounded like someone else in the room, his voice quiet in the way of someone who has just pulled the phone off his face to look at it. He hung up and never called again, as far as I know. Whether the guy was FBI or a private security goon posing as a fed, the call was an important development—it told me that the book I was dealing with and the numbers it contained were genuine.

gave me goosebumps.

Personally, I think #2 is the most plausible. The way she describes everyone's awkwardness (and why she would even be invited to this meeting in the first place) makes sense if Epstein and Wexner were putting on a show for her benefit. But I wouldn't be surprised at all if Maxwell left some false leads in there to help steer anyone digging into this down the path she wanted.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Some of the redactions are really easy to figure out with the index in the back. It's alphabetical, so let's take a look where "Alan" and "Dershowitz" would go, if he were discussed:





The text at page 211, line 15 (one of the places where those two redactions occur together):

13 A. I'm saying what's an obvious lie
14 and I think we can all agree, you just had
15 the case tossed out by [REDACTED] [REDACTED] . He
16 just got removed from the case because you
17 put him in a case that he wasn't supposed to
18 be in so what was said about him is not true.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

nut posted:

was literally just about to post this with Kevin Spacey as an example





Wonder who this could be

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Signal actually is pretty-well peer reviewed so while it’s of course not impossible it would be risky to try and sneak a backdoor in.

However, we know from the snowden leaks that the NSA is saving off a copy of everything anyway, they are probably taking the long view and (not incorrectly) thinking they’ll get quantum computers enough before everybody else that they’ll be able to just open anything up at will.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

gh0stpinballa posted:

nor do we know who the "attractive woman" who visited him multiple times in the 48 hours leading up to his death was (probably a handler).

I think it’s this woman: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/the-26-year-old-lawyer-who-represented-epstein-and-el-chapo.html

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

The latest New Yorker has a doozy of an article that hits all the domestic gladio high notes: someone goes on a sniper rampage in Malibu, but the local PD refuse to investigate. Some officers feel the investigation is being steered in a certain direction:

quote:

As far as the public could tell, Malibu was being terrorized by an elusive killer, the Canyon Shooter, who already had a string of victims. But law enforcement seemed, almost willfully, to resist that interpretation. Press releases from the sheriff’s department hewed to a strict narrative, which seemed to justify the decision not to warn the public before the murder: “Homicide detectives are advising, at this time there is no evidence to suggest the past shootings are related to the June 22, 2018 homicide.”

Inside Lost Hills Station, the faction that had long believed there was a sniper at large was frustrated. On the morning of the murder, Manwell reported to the campground. “When we found out that Mr. Beaudette was killed, I can tell you I was angry as hell,” he said. “My belief was, we should have warned the public, giving them a choice of whether they wanted to drive through the canyon, stay at the campground, or anything else.” He went on, “I felt very much like we had failed this family.”

The pressure intensified to come up with a suspect. Manwell told me, “It was focussed on a lone-wolf type of guy.”

Eventually they land on this ex-army hermit whose parents said used to be a nice kid but came back clearly changed by his brief time in the military:

quote:

According to his father, Oswald, Rauda had been a meticulous child, shy and gentle, who loved playing baseball. When he was young, the family lived in Highland Park, on the Eastside of Los Angeles, close to cousins and to the elementary school. After Oswald and Anthony’s mother divorced, he says, she and her new husband moved Anthony and his two older siblings to Tampa, and he lost touch with them. Anthony dropped out of high school, got a G.E.D., and briefly joined the Army, training in infantry. By the time he showed up back in L.A., Oswald felt that he’d changed.

It sure seems like this guy did everything as dumb as possible in order to get the cops on his trail! Btw these burglaries didn't start taking place until after the cops were forced to acknowledge there was a serial sniper.

quote:

In Malibu, those who felt that law enforcement had been hiding the existence of the Canyon Shooter are not entirely convinced that they arrested the right person. Karen and Arnold York, the publishers of the Malibu Times, a community newspaper, told me that they “take it with a grain of salt.” Karen said, “The fact that this guy was a homeless guy, it was so easy to say, ‘His fault.’ Who knows? It may be a perfectly preppy-looking guy, who’s got issues with guns, who did this, but we’re not going to look for him. We’re going to focus on somebody that threatens our vision of what Malibu should be.”

Even Sergeant Wright, who firmly believes the serial-shooter theory, admits that the Rauda story is a little neat. “I would think it would take some nerve to commit a burglary directly next door to the station,” he told me. “I mean . . . why would somebody commit a murder and then hold on to the same weapon? And then do burglaries on videotape, making very little effort to hide, other than putting a mask on part of your face? There’s an assumption that most criminals would think, if their picture was captured on camera with a weapon, that there’s going to be a heightened law-enforcement effort to engage them, and that’s exactly what happened.”

There's more and the whole thing is really worth a read.

edit: missed this one

quote:

More than two years later, Rauda’s criminal trial has yet to begin, but he and his family continue to proclaim his innocence. Oswald told me that he doesn’t understand how Rauda got the carbine and can’t imagine him using it. “He doesn’t even hunt,” he said. “He eats from the dumpsters at the McDonald’s near the 101.” Rauda’s brother-in-law told me that he believes Anthony has been framed. Rauda, too, argues that the focus on him is misplaced. “The Beaudette family and friends can blame the sheriff’s department for his death,” he wrote. “That’s where the justice is at.”

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eshock
Sep 2, 2004

The CIA don't have to "hack" Teslas or any autonomous cars in the traditional sense--they all have remote links so they can be driven remotely by humans in sweatshops in the early days before the AI is good enough.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/business/2021/08/23/a-secret-weapon-for-self-driving-car-startups-humans

They can just have a guy log in the normal way.

quote:

In Las Vegas, startup Halo allows customers to summon a driverless car, which is driven by a remote human operator over fast, fifth-generation wireless networks operated by T-Mobile US Inc.

"Just a few years back, remote human assistance was a dirty little secret in this space," said Elliot Katz, co-founder of teleoperation firm Phantom Auto. "Virtually no one talked about it publicly because there was still this facade that these vehicles were just going to be able to drive autonomously, everywhere they need to go and do everything that a human driver would do."

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

gradenko_2000 posted:

my bony fealty posted:

what's a good resource/book that dives into Lee Harvey Oswald and all the spooky characters he crossed paths with on his way to becoming a patsy?
Peter Dale Scott's Dallas 63

Thread favorite The Devil's Chessboard also devotes a lot of space to this.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Ed Opperman talks about Giuliani allegedly arranging a whacking in one of his TrueAnon eps.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

I'm reading aberration in the heartland of the real now, and it includes this tidbit about James Holmes I'd never heard before. Reminded me of the "girl with the polka dot dress" from the ambassador hotel.

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eshock
Sep 2, 2004

drat, another whistleblower brought down by his individual, personal mental health issues!

quote:

She and other friends and family were starting to notice the strain. Fishback was speaking nationally about philosophy and war and completing his doctoral thesis, but his behavior veered toward paranoia. He claimed that other academics were stealing his work and talked about U.S. government agencies pursuing him. Considering his credentials, friends didn't immediately doubt him.

"One of the problems with Ian was that some of his paranoia seemed very reasonable," says Ford, his boyhood friend. "You know, like if the FBI is watching him and that seems plausible, right? I mean, but if a normal person from the street told you that, you think they're crazy."

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/02/1060884859/the-final-anguished-years-of-a-warrior-scholar-who-exposed-torture-by-u-s-troops

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Ace of Baes posted:

even if if theorize brace is lying about it being ironic and you think he was doing literal Nazi or white supremacist stuff he was still, a. Hooked on heroin, b. Basically a kid still, like I've brought up before on this discourse though, even if you think brace is an op, what is he accomplishing, what is limited about his hangout?

Here's a quote from the latest episode, an interview with Julie K Brown:

quote:

BB: My take on it is if epstein was working with intelligence agencies, I think whatever was happening, by 2005: long over. If that was the case, he wouldn't even have been arrested in the first place. I mean, it's...
JKB: Yeah and also, I mean, I think we would've, it's now 2 decades later, somebody would have provided someone like me or another journalist with real concrete evidence of some sort. Something would've been leaked. I think, basically, what I think it probably was was he probably claimed he had some information that could help law enforcement, or the CIA, or whoever, the FBI, and he claimed he could be a good asset to them, and they sorta said "OKwhatever, we'll use you as an asset" but I don't know whether that even happened.
BB: Yeah yeah, I think it would've, and people sorta suggest that he's like a blood-in blood-out like agent of the CIA, and i think that's not--that's not how that operates in like, any historical sense. With guys like this anyways.

At this point Brace redirects the conversation back to JKB's investigation in Palm Beach.

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eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Goast posted:

it's still perfectly possible epstien was just an asset that got burned

I don't disagree with this but characterizing Epstein as a wannabe who was Probably Just Bullshitting about the CIA is a form of damage control

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Vicky Ward may be sus but new transcripts just dropped.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

global tetrahedron posted:

anyone have a link to that cable on wikileaks that is a very entertaining/well written recounting of an oligarch's dinner party

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/06MOSCOW9533_a.html

This one really did own.

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Speaking of broads:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efErNvnPvzc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk1o4avaPe0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLJ0IAlRWz4

I'm not convinced it's actually her, but the capital hill pipe bomber is clearly a woman. Did any media pick up on that at the time?

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

January 6 Survivor posted:

wait what

also what is that thing about "the leg in the combat boot" referenced in the post about OKC?






Personally I think it's Poindexter.

mdemone posted:

it's the least knowable thing about the entire bombing, but it's a sensational little tidbit.

That's the thing though.....it's very knowable! There was a DNA test done and the Oklahoma medical examiner has the results!

eshock has issued a correction as of 15:00 on Apr 21, 2022

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

edit: double post

eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Fwiw, here is that big longform article from a few years ago where the author lays out his case: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/02/jeff-wise-mh370-theory.html

Basically, MH370 has an access hatch to an electronics/equipment bay in the first class cabin that allows an attacker to gain control of the plane from there:

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eshock
Sep 2, 2004

Can someone explain why this video is a normal thing to have happened, and not what it looks like?

https://twitter.com/lloydcordero99/status/1558119247368269824

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