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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Reveilled posted:

Regarding a discussion from the last thread, there was something that happened with the whole alexis kennedy thing, one of the victims made a post and then they deleted their twitter and people were talking about it being a knife twist by kennedy or something. What happened?

Zoe Quinn outed some other sex pest in games and apparently he offed himself this morning. This, of course, is Quinn's fault, along with erectile dysfunction and male pattern baldness and why my ex wife took the kids.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Social care is a goddamn nightmare as anyone who has had to try and sort it out for a deteriorating relative knows. Electable or not it's a vital policy.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Though as we're illustrating that's under threat of "you're dead if you leave lol"

That's more of a capitalism problem than an EU problem though.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

RPZip posted:

Is there a good summary anywhere of developments since the Brexit extension? I stopped following UK news so closely after that and I'm trying to catch up but I have no idea what is happening.

Nothing is happening, that's sort of the problem.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Also good luck getting new candidates if corbyn voncs you next week lol.

This is like operation barbarossa if instead of the molotov ribbentropp pact hitler kept sending stalin messages saying "i'm gonna fight you lol, real soon" and stalin read them and said "hmm what I need is a purge!"

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Sep 1, 2019

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah but unlike Russia I don't think Boris Johnson can move the entire conservative party a thousand miles east and churn out a metal, diesel powered candidate every few hours.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That would be very funny if so.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Not a fan of all this hope is a lie bollocks honestly.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Hallucinogenic Toreador posted:

Don't we have to ask for an extension?

I mean I don't think there's anything stopping them from offering one it's more whether they will or not. It'd be a really funny way to make johnson look like a moron I just dunno if the EU cares about that.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

When you don't understand what the EU does at all (which if you're voting to leave it, you almost certainly don't) it's not hard to also fail to understand why leaving it might be quite harmful.

It doesn't require an increase in ignorance, basically.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Gonna need a bigger clock to stuff the entire government in.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Not really sure that dom cummies and the idiot squad are particularly personally powerful though. They're literally the bottom of the barrel of tory morons.

Like the government has basically no majority and is running terrified of even the slightest legislative opposition, they're not really doing a very good job of appearing in charge.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

There is a possibility that a majority of parliament will continue to support Johnson even if he literally tells them he's doing what he wants and they don't get a say any more.

But that's not the same thing as the police siding with him personally over parliament, which I think is unlikely.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Would it even get to the courts or would bercow get annoyed and send the mace man round?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Pochoclo posted:

Hasn’t the Tory government already defied a whole bunch of court orders with literally no consequence?

They've very passively aggressively complied with bercow giving them strongly worded letters to do as he says.

I'm fairly sure that bercow actually outranks Johnson in the context of parliamentary authority and I think he probably would respond to boris actually telling him to get bent by sending the parliamentary polis round, which he personally commands, basically.

OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 11:51 on Sep 1, 2019

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

As far as I am aware, the UK sells buildings in London that nobody lives in to Russians who never visit and then sends the money to China and Poland to buy cheap tat and food.

And also people in the UK sell buildings to each other for ever increasing numbers of monies and this generates wealth.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

baka kaba posted:

Like people have said, a professional (which can just be someone who does counselling in some capacity, not necessarily a therapist or anything) is probably gonna provide the best concrete guidance

But if you think about it, you're both in the same kind of situation - both come out recently, both come to terms with some stuff, it's just this kid is in much worse family circumstances. So you can listen, but you can also both talk about your experiences, how it's going in general, what you're looking forward to in the future

And because you're in a better place, with a bit more life experience, you get to provide a bit of a grounded perspective, let the kid see how things should be and that it's not their fault their dad is flipping out. I think that's probably worthwhile?

Yeah you don't have to be a professional to listen to someone and empathise. It can help to have someone to talk to who's in a similar situation.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Private Speech posted:

Aside from everything else I just don't see immediate immigration enforcement as realistic - the UK currently indefinitely (though for the majority, albeit a slim one, it's only a couple months) locks up about 30k people per year for eventual deportation.

If that were to expand to even 1% of the EU migrant population (and LMAO if you think that they would stop at only 1%) it would still quadruple the current immigration enforcement rate, which I imagine would overwhelm the capacity just a touch.

If I weren't one of the people eminently at risk of being locked up I'd almost like to see the chaos it would be.

e: phoneposting

"Government writes laws it has no capacity to enforce" is brexit in a nutshell and part of why I'm not convinced boris has any idea what he's doing.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Nuclear Spoon posted:

also given what the Whip actually is i am confused by the etymology of the phrase "withdrawing the whip"

"Your services are no longer required" essentialy.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Also hoey, stringer, mann.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Tsaedje posted:

Alternatively, 'Labour to make employees £300bn richer', or am I missing something?

Employees aren't who the financial times is for :v:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Wouldn't it still be up to bercow whether the government is in contempt of parliament?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Also unlike trump he's going to be going up against a competent left wing opposition with actually good policies.

Though I'm not particularly keen on running the last dying howl of the lead posioning generation vs socialism. I wish there some way to off the buggers a bit more quietly.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Illuyankas posted:

I hope this new trend of calling Dominic Cummings 'Cummies' dies a loving immediate death

I don't it's loving hilarious.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Are you Krang? You shouldn't be reading the forums with your tummy.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013


I mean if you're gonna work for the sun you have to assume it's because they have the big CP stash.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Digging in their changes is absolutely vital for a labour government and transfer of ownership is something I've really hoped would be a way of doing that. I'm glad they're taking it seriously.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

One of the few things I like about my job is that despite the poo poo pay I get a lot of flexibility on when I work.

Which is nice, eg, when I can choose to bunk off whenever the weather behaves to go to the beach or the moors.

Not working is great and I encourage everyone to do it whenever possible.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Related to not being at work I have discovered that those new robinsons mint+lime cordials + ice + sprite + triple sec makes a quite passible mixed drink :)

Like a more citrusy mojito.

I have also discovered that if you drink too much the mint will give you the shits :v:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It's 1337 o clock and I am day drinking so what.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Or blowing up rear end in a top hat chaos vikings who won't stop dumping loving elephants on my goddamn northern coast the twats.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah what you don't put anything on a crumpet except butter.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I also think of them as pikelets but it sounds like a racial slur so I feel weird using it.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The cameron crumpet is extremely not kosher.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Drop scones 1. aren't real, they're an urban legend made up to scare american tourists and b: are pronounced skon.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Miftan posted:

CRUMPET MENU:

The Churchill - They say this crumpet is the only thing Churchill ate in the bunker during the war.
Slow cooked veal/calf meat on crunchy sweet potato mash with a wine syrup

The Lord Balfour - The famous crumpet that Balfour ate before signing his famous declaration (editor's note: the declaration was assuring the jews in palestine that they'll be able to live there or something, it's very famous in Israel and is taught in high school history as a pivotal moment). They say he signed it with the leftover sauce.
Cubed goose in sichuan sauce on cabbage-turnip cream with herbs

The Stephen Hawking - His theory of black holes was based on the bubbles in the crumpet's dough.
Chopped liver on mash potatoes spiced with horse radish and onion jam

The Jeremy Corbyn - The Labour Party's flagship crumpet. For vegeterian leftists.
Crispy eggplant on cold salsa and pink tehini.

The Duchess Meghan Markle - The say that when she married Prince Harry they had Nutella crumpets instead of a wedding cake
Bananas tempura'd in salty chococlate crunch, whipped cream and nutella.

The John Cleese - The song 'always look on the bright side of life' was written about Cleese's favourite cheesecake crumpet
Cream cheese with hot fruit salad and balsamic vinegar

Elizabeth the 2nd - Th classic crumpet. Just like the queen has on saturday morning.
Butter, honey, and jam.

Corbyn the second most expensive thing on the menu (lol)

Ok the Hawking sounds good but like, why is it on a crumpet instead of in a yorkshire pudding or something?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Josef bugman posted:

This seems to have been going on for years though. When did the folks who started believing the lies made up to justify greater personal power for the rich really start becoming the folks in charge?

About a hundred years ago :v:

Though more seriously this is the big effect of neoliberalism, it only took a generation or so for the people formed under "socialism lost now we are in the endless age of fiddling with the dials on capitalism" to become the ones in power. And now that, shockingly, capitalism isn't stopping crisising just because the USSR isn't around any more, they have no loving clue how to deal with anything.

Further amplified by the blair brand of politics where all that matters is your big grimacing boy up front and we'll never have to worry about anything else because, clearly, they'll be around for ever! See also: Cameron, Obama.

When the golden boy goes away you're left with their dregs who only existed to prop up the big clever candidate, and then they all roll around in the poo poo trying to figure out who should be the best big clever candidate. Only none of them are because they weren't picked for being brilliant they were picked to do as they were told.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

If anything, experience in surviving under a blockade will be quite useful post brexit :v:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Why is she dead?

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Unsurprisingly the people most unhappy with the government most want an election :v:

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