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Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Some Guy TT posted:

it helps that the art style is crazy good and distinctive frozen just has very little going on for it from an animation standpoint compared to any other randomly chosen 3d disney movie

I feel like Frozen 2 not being direct to video might have dented its reputation

Also I just found out there was a Rob Zombie Munsters movie at some point in the recent past. I tried watching it and just couldn't. Its not like the Munsters was art or anything to begin with, but that movie was a rare display of anti-talent. It wasn't just not good, it somehow directly subtracted a quantity of fun from the universe. What a rare achievement.

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Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

indigi posted:

Die Hard 2 is better than Hot Fuzz

Mantis42 posted:

blocked and muted

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

MacheteZombie posted:

Munsters looks so cheap and the trailer turned me off the flick. He did rebuild the Munsters house and street though which is cool as hell. Gunna try to watch it before the end of the month.

I grew up like 30 miles away from a 100% faithful replication of the Munster's mansion that was filled with original TV props. They ran tours and a haunted house out of it every Halloween. It probably made it real easy to rebuild the mansion when there was an already existing template built by obsessives who have been doing a frame by frame analysis for decades

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Nichael posted:

I've mostly gotten sick of Marvel, but I kind of want to see Ant-Man 3.

https://twitter.com/MarvelStudios/status/1584575500311154688?s=20&t=AB6MUndV4Mqx7bQd6ey04A

Ive tuned out most Marvel things but this looks mildly interesting. Maybe Paul Rudd snark is just more endearing and easier to stomach than Hemsworth snark

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Action Jacktion posted:

And they're socialist



I appreciate that Optimus was an American big rig tractor even back on a planet inhabited entirely by robots

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Im sure they have an in universe reason for it, I just find it amusing that the robot is powered by an internal combustion engine that needs multiple exhausts for venting, and he also has a windshield to look out of. I sincerely do like that they just shrugged their shoulders and rolled with it instead of turning the exhausts into laser ports or whatever weak excuse a lesser artist would make

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

i say swears online posted:

my man got handed a pamphlet on a streetcorner and rolled with it

Someone should give him a copy of the Communist Manifesto as a way to own the bankers

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Sad to hear about Witcher though. Just give me a monster of the week starring Henry Cavill grunting at monsters and leave all the boring rear end wizard politics out of it

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Tyler Durden did nothing wrong.

Violent rebellion and destruction of property against the ruling class is extremely cool, and the correct take away from Fight Club is that paramilitary groups of working class citizens aligned against capital own

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Justin Tyme posted:

I want a lightsaber but in the hands of a normie, just some lady that uses it to cut open locks and do property damage and occasionally cuts people up, no force at all ever brought up. Just uses a lightsaber cause she thinks its cool

In fiction theres all kinds of dumb reasons why only force people use lightsabers, like talking to the rocks inside them or some stupid poo poo. The only one that ever made sense to me was that you needed magic space powers to not fumble the massless, inertia-less sword that effortlessly cleaves flesh and accidently cut your own head off. I could see having a pocket saber that only comes out two or three inches though, that would be cool.

In general though, Star Wars either needs to fully embrace the wizard monk angle or ditch it entirely to be good. Everything in between those extremes sucks.

C-Euro posted:

This is John Boyega in TFA, minus the property damage. Just a dude who lucked into owning a lightsaber.

The sequels would have been so much better if it had been Boyega as just 'really good with a lightsaber' versus the Empire. It would have been a story about a child soldier redeeming themselves, taking vengeance on their oppressors, and not needing space magic to save the day. Ridley could have filled the Han Solo slot. Poe would be Chewbacca.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

galagazombie posted:

This would literally just be the part in The Matrix where Neo puts up his hands and the bullets freeze.

Kylo does that with a laser gun because the sequels needed to make sure you knew that space magic is the strongest thing there is and anyone not a space wizard might as well not exist

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

josh04 posted:

and yet general grievous was a robot and obi-wan just blew him away

It was a space wizard that blew him away, not a regular guy with a gun. Looking back I kinda admire the prequels for how much they leaned into the fantasy elements. Space wizard fights an evil robot octopus. Sure why not?

The prequels would have been a lot more fun if they'd ditched any ties to 'realism' at all and just gone gonzo with space wizardry and pushed the politics further into the background. King space wizard fights a muppet space wizard in the middle of the senate floor and actually throws senate seats at him in an unsubtle metaphor: fun; thirty minutes of expository laden scenes in the actual space senate: boring poo poo.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

loquacius posted:

they managed to literally kill the emperor, though, so -- wait, I just remembered the sequel trilogy happened, again, for the second time in five minutes

If it werent for space magic the rebel assault on the death star would have failed and the Empire would have decisively ended any organized rebellion in the galaxy

Mon Mothma was an op only ruined by the fanaticism of a backwater religious terrorist

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Owns, also the art direction in the first two was never matched by the rest of the series

I vaguely recall Alan Rickman desperately wanting to exit the series after the first few movies because the latter ones turned to crap, and only reluctantly getting talked into it by having his role in the ending spoiled for him by Rowling. Or something like that, I think.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007


I stopped watching after season 2, did it ever become coherent?

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

i say swears online posted:

holy poo poo season 2 held up the numbers more than i thought

I kept watching season 2 waiting for it to make sense and tell a coherent narrative, based entirely on good will banked from the first season. I did not watch season 3

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

McCloud posted:

Reminder that Whedon wanted an episode centered around the courtesan getting kidnapped and raped, and having her poisoned vagina killed her rapists

https://gizmodo.com/the-firefly-episode-were-really-glad-joss-whedon-didnt-5959794

I never would have guessed that Joss Whedon of all people would turn out to be a sex pest. He has such a healthy attitude towards strong women!

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Dr. Jerrold Coe posted:

Grogu had some choice words about mask mandates and election fraud, don't think he's gonna be rebuilding anything anytime soon

I assume jokes, but I also want this to be real

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Mantis42 posted:

we can finally find out what he was named before he was named solo by a bureaucrat

Han Skywalker.

Everyone important in Star Wars is a Skywalker.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Some Guy TT posted:

smdh that james cameron cruelly implies that the rich people who stayed on the boat were total dumbasses when we should regard their unfortunate fates with dignity and pathos

https://twitter.com/gbstevo22/status/1671708446733881345?s=20

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Taylor Swift looking for material, sizing a guy up, fantasizing about the break up song shes gonna write about him in a few months

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Swift's date is ten minutes late for dinner. Is it finally time for the break up? Shes got a vague chorus about how he left her heart waiting and maybe a bridge about being hungry for love. Not a chart topper, but it'll fill a slot on the album. Then she spots him walking up with flowers in his hand. He apologizes for being late and says he had to go to the florist across town to find the flowers she liked. Swift smiles and takes the flowers, but inwardly she sighs. Nobody buys albums about good relationships!

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Finally got around to finishing Netflix's Witcher S3, and the showrunners really wish they were writing for Game of Thrones and seem to resent having Geralt around as a character

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

I watched the first episode of One Piece last night and it is the most anime live action thing I have ever seen, in a good way. All I know about One Piece is that the anime has literally one thousand episodes and the manga is still ongoing, and usually I don't like to watch adaptations with no set end point, but maybe I'll watch the goofy show anyways. Its one of the few things I've seen lately that seems to be having fun instead of trying to force itself into the mold of a grand sweeping epic

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Fried Watermelon posted:

Do they have Shang Tsung promise to betray the heroes and then the heroes getting shocked that he betrays them?

Shang Tsung betrays Shang Tsung. Its peak Shang Tsung.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

veepfake posted:

hamilton feels like one of those episodes of the simpsons where it's, like, the characters, but they're in medieval times, or they're in the old west, or whatever. entertaining, but who cares? maybe im an idiot and there's something deeper going on but idgi, what do people get out of it?

Do you want to feel good about American mythology and the inherent moral superiority of the American cause, but you half way paid attention in history class or your kids keep sharing what they've learned? Here's some dancing black people telling you that it was actually great, and modern America has atoned for its past and now anyone can portray the racist founders and brush aside their problematic aspects

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Jaxyon posted:

In no way does Hamilton ever imply that America has atoned for it's past. It basically just treats every historical figure like a fictional character

The Batman guy who says someone aiming an RPG at them isnt good was put in for you

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

christmas boots posted:

this isn’t an ironclad definition imo but I think part of it is the difference between earnest quips in the spirit of the movie and sort of ironic ones that are more like “get a load of this guy”

I guess what I mean is that on some level you can tell if a joke is being made because the writer is having a good time and enjoys the material or if the writer is actually embarrassed by it and trying to be like “no, it’s dumb I get it too see?”

if you don’t enjoy the thing you’re making then why the hell am I watching it?

Jokes because you enjoy the source material and want others to have fun vs jokes to pad the run time and fulfill a studio mandate to target profitable demographics

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Pussy Quipped posted:

is there any reason why Star Wars takes place all in the same galaxy? can’t their hyperdrive just take them anywhere including other galaxies?

I vaguely recall in old continuity they explored beyond the edges of the galaxy and found an invasion fleet of planet sized spaceships coming. The Death Star was meant to be a weapon to crack their world ships to defend the galaxy

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007


Its a thinly veiled metaphor on race relations, including interspecies dating

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Shia Labeouf's Mutt was poorly written and stupidly named and didn't catch on as the successor to Indiana Jones. Plus Labeouf had a real life meltdown and then did a weird art-porno movie and wasn't wholesome and bankable anymore so they murdered him for a quick hit of pathos in the ill advised *5th* Indiana Jones movie.

Also Ghostbusters 2016 suffered from too much improv and bits that went on way past the point where they got stale. Its like someone read about adlibbing in the original movie but then didnt actually watch the movie to see how tight the adlib segments really were

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Just watched Wheel of Time s2e6. I hate what they did to Elaida. In the books she was a driven zealot who thought she was the smart one and everyone else was a reckless idiot at best, or actively working for satan at worst, and she rode that energy and overwhelming ego to loving over world politics and the main characters during the end times crisis. Now shes just another dumbass who works for the devil to protect a loved one. Oh no, shes tragic. I guess a girlboss who almost got everyone killed because it was her turn was a step too far for the showrunners.

Theres another dark sister whose story was she only joined up with the devil cult for career advancement and was never ideologically committed but gets executed anyways and I hope the showrunners don't turn her tragic too.


I am conflating characters, but I still feel Liandrin has an incredibly dumb motivation

Kudos on making Elayne competent and likeable though

Nix Panicus has issued a correction as of 03:04 on Sep 28, 2023

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Some Guy TT posted:

if i had to guess id say the part of scott pilgrim people find offensive is literally just the extent to which the phrase manic pixie dream girl can be used to apply to the love interest im not sure ive ever actually seen anyone say in a semiformal context that the title character cheating on his underage asian schoolgirl ninja girlfriend is pretty wtf

Everyone in the comic gives Scott poo poo for having an underage asian schoolgirl girlfriend and says its hosed up, and one of the turning points of the comic is when Scott realizes he's a piece of poo poo for having an underage asian schoolgirl girlfriend and it was hosed up. A huge theme of the comic is that Scott is actually kind of a thoughtless garbage person who has hurt everyone around him and he has to come to grips with that and make amends. The movie tries to do something with that with Scott apologizing to everyone at the end getting the 'self respect' sword which is better than the 'true love' sword, but its not done very well and Cera didn't have the range for it anyways.

This is not to say the comic isnt dumb in other ways, just not that one specific way

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Maed posted:

did the plot really require her to be underage though? if she was 18 it'd work just the same right? that's why it weirds me out still it doesn't seem necessary to show he's a lovely guy

I think the purpose was to use heightening to emphasize how little they have in common. She talks about high school stuff while Scott is supposed to be getting his life together. Its obvious escapism and refusal to grow up. Having another 20 something in the role wouldn't have been the same. And Scott isnt even interested in her physically, the most they do is hold hands. Scott is thoughtless and selfish, not a sex pest, or else it'd be really hard to accept his character arc

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Finished watching the One Piece live action earlier, and while the story itself is, uh, questionable, at least they put a little effort into the bad guy actually being bad and the contradictions of his rhetoric instead of going the Killmonger from Black Panther route of just murdering his girlfriend for no real reason to establish evil.

Also the show is unabashed about being anime as gently caress and the actors seem to be having a great time and I hope they keep making more

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Yeah, the show put effort in to illustrate that Arlong wasn't fundamentally opposed to racism, abuse, and brutal enslavement, he was opposed to not being the guy in charge of all of that. Way more effort than I expected given its a magic pirate anime.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Ive stopped caring whether an adaptation is faithful or not anymore. I just want a good show with decent writing, actors who seem like they at least like acting, and that work with the medium. I want more tight, character focused stories and fewer world building 'epics'. Stop making Game of Thrones please.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

i say swears online posted:

i think it's that jedi are so rare that it's pointless to change tactics just for them

which is totally defeated by star wars being 100% jedi all the time now

Firing wildly in a disorganized mob seems like bad tactics in general though?

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

Star Wars is better without any jedi in it though. Something about the addition of unstoppable mind control wizards only hindered by their own melodramatic internal turmoil just takes the stakes right out of the story

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Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

StashAugustine posted:

There's some good stuff there but it relies on actually making the interior turmoil interesting which is hard!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EjWbb8aYpI

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