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Gnumonic posted:We probably should have some mechanism to redo an election if there's blatant evidence of hacking but I have no idea which institution you could trust with making that determination. The temptation to abuse that power for partisan ends would be overwhelming. Most western countries do have such an institution, with courts making the final decision. Of course, with judges being political appointees or elected in the US, this is a bigger problem. Lambert fucked around with this message at 12:06 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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vincentpricesboner posted:Holy poo poo man, I think you might need to absorb less politics because it is seriously bringing you down. Thinking that a literal hundred million people are all demon braindead zealots is quite the take. 62 million people voted for Trump, which is 3 million less than voted for Clinton.
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I'm sure the supreme court won't stand in the way, so, probably.
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The Democrats have always been pretty okay at putting up resistance when it doesn't matter, so this impeachment really doesn't seem to be a slam-dunk for the "Pelosi is a brilliant puppetmaster" wing of the party.
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Oh, that's really interesting for sure, man. BTW, is the moron still president?
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eke out posted:please stop shitposting in this thread That wasn't a shitpost, I was posting my genuine amazement at the personell working for Trump.
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It'll just be "you don't change horses mid-stream" on an endless loop.
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Why do they have like 2 dozen pens on the podium? Americans believe that pens touched by presidents while signing bills are magic, and can be used to cure ailments and for general good luck. That's why the president uses like 20 pens for every single signature and then hands those out to bystanders.
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Jan 15, 2020 23:12
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Biden running his own email server was obviously very careless and fishy.
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Jan 17, 2020 12:32
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Considering the US doesn't have a "one man, one vote" system, living in the right place is important for your vote to have more weight - doesn't really matter whether its actually a majority of voters when you can govern even with a minority of the votes.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:hell you wouldn't want the trump legal team near an unsupervised minor What?
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Jan 18, 2020 04:03
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What the hell, it's really always more with Trump.
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FilthyImp posted:He would have had more if he hadn't stuck his dick into the FBI right after inauguration. What a loving self own. Doesn't matter, the FBI still loves him. DandyLion posted:Of course, they were either going hold a vote the 1st day and give up any pretense whatsoever, or hold one a week and a half later under the silly fake pretense that it was an excessive amount of time since he was already innocent from the start. It shaved off maybe 0.1-0.2%, if you're lucky. Nobody follows this stuff.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:what the gently caress are you even talking about? ImpAtom posted:I feel like saying that 0.1-0.2% of people are not familiar with what is going on with Donald Trump is pretty goddamn dumb. Even if you're a Casual Political Person it's kinda hard to miss "oh hey we almost a war" You should check the approval ratings charts: This stuff isn't moving the needle at all. And, in fact, Trump is pretty popular now compared to the beginning of his presidency.  And most Trumpists aren't going to accept the notion of "oh hey we almost had a war".
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What does "compared to" mean? Can't figure thise one out.
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Schiff knows this, he's grandstanding because that's his job.
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Jan 22, 2020 23:11
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Toobly posted:I apologize if this has been brought up already (probably a while back or in another thread) but I was reading conflicting things so I was just hoping to clarify it. The senators can always overrule the judge on anything. Roberts is there to do nothing of any substance.
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Tibalt posted:The best reasonably likely outcome right now is that a majority of the Senate vote in favor of removal, including 3 to 8 Republican Senators. In my opinion, having Biden testify hurts that possibility more than having Bolton not testify, and I don't think it's even close. I'm sorry to tell you, but that's the extremely unlikely fantasy parallel universe outcome. If nothing outrageous happens, no Republican will vote for removal from office.
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Considering the result of the hearing is a foregone conclusion, does attendance really matter? Can't blame senators for not staying in a pointless hearing.
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pacerhimself posted:I mean what can possibly be so bad about blatantly abdicating one of the most important roles in your job. To the voters, it's not going to matter at all, if we're being honest.
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The Glumslinger posted:I mean, I'd get in trouble if I just ditched jury duty But it's not jury duty, and this isn't a trial.
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eke out posted:trump's legal geniuses making the case that we just don't know what happened How is this a "good sign"? I'm perplexed.
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:If they vote to allow witnesses, Roberts will have the authority to rule on privilege issues and I can't see even him accepting Republican's "gently caress you" theory of executive privilege. The Senate can vote to overrule, but any Republican who has already defected has zero reason to turn back. Maybe we should remember the words of the great William Rehnquist: "I did nothing in-particular, and I did it very well"
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Dapper_Swindler posted:oh gently caress off with the nothing matters bullshit. The only thing to say about this is "lol"
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Framboise posted:I was thinking about that recently, actually. What is Fox gonna do when the Boomers die off? Are they going to die out with a whimper or radicalize and try to appeal more to the last demographic they possibly could appeal to: alt-right chuds who live on Breitbart, InfoWars, and r/TheDonald? All of TV is going to have a big problem in a few decades, younger viewers simply aren't watching TV like the olds do.
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An insane mind posted:And didn't they have the shittest repub midterms in a while after? And all that got the Democrats is a small majority in one chamber.
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Djarum posted:Goes back to short term victories while losing the war. What "short term victories"? The Republican party has been the driving force in US politics for the past 10 years, now.
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The founding American protest was a hissy fit about taxes and throwing some tea into a harbor. That should tell you something. American protests are all really small and don't last. This isn't France.
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BiggerBoat posted:538 hasn't moved  Hm. Lambert fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Feb 5, 2020 |
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SubG posted:The House voted on the articles on December 18th. As you can see, this clearly inflamed public passions against the impeachment effort, shifting Trump's approval numbers from 43.4% approve/52.2% disapprove on that date to...43.5% approve/52.1% disapprove today. If you just look at 538's numbers for likely/registered voters it's 44.6% and 51.7% before and 44.1%/52.2% today. Hm indeed. Trump is now way more popular than when he took office. Let that sink in.
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SubG posted:That is also not what the numbers show. According to the 538 data you just posted his approval was 45.5% and dispproval 41.3% immediately after inauguration, literally the only time he's had net positive approval, at +4.2%. He's currently at 43.5%/52.1%, or a net approval of -8.6%. Yeah, just realized I was looking at the wrong date.
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I'm the swing voter that doesn't realize Trump is corrupt without the impeachment trial.
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People are all the same, I find it hard to believe there's any appreciable difference.
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Inferior Third Season posted:W was stupid, but not as stupid as the persona he projected. A good example is his "can't get fooled again" gaffe. He realized that he was about to say "shame on me" directly into a microphone, which would have been cut and used against him, so he made up some nonsense on the spot that was in line with his bumbling idiot persona. So that was quick and clever of him, but if he was actually smart, he wouldn't have put himself in the situation to begin with. This seems extremely unlikely. He couldn't remember the saying, something that happens with humans from time to time. Why would "shame on me" be worse than the nonsense he acutally said and that was cut and used against him.
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