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Spreading some yule feelings. Putting up some christmas lights (doesn't show well because it's noon, doesn't get dark until around 1400). Have got this tree which is a really nice christmas tree shape growing at the corner of our yard and decided to put up some lights on it, colored because all our neighbors are running white lights only. It's boring AF, we're the only ones with colored lights. Cats where enjoying the snow too.   
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I'm 6'2" and I think it's about the only thing that let me have some confidence at all growing up.
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Dec 4, 2019 14:09
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Braggart posted:Trip report from the GP: Vitamin D fortification of staple foods would be one way to address this on a national level. Done in Finland with milk, butter and margarine for instance.
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Dec 6, 2019 16:11
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Debbie Does Dagon posted:Ergo calling Musk a pedo isn't defamation, right? I hope someone gets something like #pedobillionaire or #pedoguymusk trending
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Dec 7, 2019 11:55
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Some nervous couple of days ahead, even for me. I feel this election will not just determine the way ahead in the UK, but in the wider world, this election can show that you can win on a socialist plattform and could, I hope, galvanize our worthless left parties away from centrist consensus BS.
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Dec 11, 2019 07:27
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spud posted:
You mean you don't want leftist politics.
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Dec 13, 2019 05:26
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Damnit it what a lovely morning
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Dec 13, 2019 05:39
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Lid posted:The question is how will you win them - you cannot simultaneously hold progressive social positions of the cosmopolitan educated middle class while simultaneously courting the isolationist xenophobic uneducated rural working class. What is your party going to aim for and believe when its stuck in trying to appease two hroups that are so diametrically opposed? The party of immigrants relying on voters who see them as invaders. The party of science and technology relying on voters that believe that Ludd Was Right. Seems to me that is the kind of thinking that works against your cause, and you know rurals can tell too that you think of them as uneducated idiots and don't really care about their communities other than for votes. This is an endemic problem on the left, the left used to be anti-globalization, I remember the big anti WTO protests in the 90s and also how basically all their warnings came true. Now the left is largely pro-globalization and as long as that is how things stand, you will only win votes in cities and it's not enough to win with. I am pretty sure you can make for a non-racist non xenophobic argument against globalization, the left used to do it and so perhaps get these areas back, but then you will loose the votes of the urban areas. Globalization has driven a wedge in society and split up the working classes and made things really bad for the left.
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Dec 13, 2019 08:01
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Lid posted:It may not help but saying educated and uneducated are just statistical observations of voting trends. I could get more specific and say rural school leavers vs university educated but at that point it really us dancing around the academic observation that increases in education by and large result in a more liberal disposition while lower education trend to populism and conservatism. I hope the genie is not out because I am convinced the fallout over globalization is liable to become apocalyptic and usher in fash parties all over the EU. It is the root cause of so many modern ills, and IMO the root cause of brexit.
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Dec 13, 2019 08:20
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I can't stop thinking of all those school children in poor areas in the UK, all those horror stories I read. Where the school teachers have to use their own salaries to buy equipment for the students, or the little boy who cried on Fridays because he had to go home for the weekend, where there was no food and no heating, or the interviews of poverty stricken school children with gaunt faces and listless eyes from these places and not believing this was recorded in western europe.
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Dec 13, 2019 08:44
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Gone over the last couple of years in my head and I cant help but feel Corbyn was right from the start but wasn't able to pursue the path he wanted. I remember when he whipped for article 50, and everyone complained. He didn't want to come for a 2nd referendum either but wanted to deliver a Labour brexit, I don't know how you people remember it but to me it looked like he was strong armed into a 2nd referendum by his own allies, everyone told him to go remain and or 2nd referendum, but I think Corbyn himself would have instead focused around delivering a Labour Brexit instead of a 2nd referendum and this staying neutral stuff. So it seems to me Labours mistake was not trying to deliver a Labour soft brexit instead. I believe Corbyns political instincts told him this and it's what he was going for initially, and it seems he has good political instincts, better than his allies.
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Dec 13, 2019 13:07
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Guildencrantz posted:Eh, disagree. At least in most of Europe there is still a working-class identity and a sense of shared interest and political alignment. The thing is, it's not economic but cultural. The common enemy is no longer capital, which is so distant and pervasive it has become basically transparent, but rather the educated professional class and its affectations. The self-perception has shifted from emphasizing "we're the people who actually make things, unlike the rich parasites" to "we're the ordinary decent folks with common sense, unlike the moralizing ivory-tower academics". Don't forget the urban/rural divide, which as a result of globalization has deepened considerably. In my experience, there are rural people with leftist ideals and they don't feel the modern left represents them. It's travel, city, urban that are the big identifiers for leftism (according to them). What appeal does that hold to a person who lives in a small village or town and who doesn't share or want that? Whose worries are, what future does my tow or village have? Will my children have a future here? Why must everything shut down and close? Will there be jobs and a life here in the future? I've had this conversation with people, they would describe themselves as leftist, but feel the parties pushing leftist policies are all centered around the cities and are actively hostile towards them. We have PR so they usually vote some center party or our new labour-ish party (SDP), we have a left wing party but they feel they cannot vote for them, it's a party for Helsinki and not them. That's a gulf that needs to be overcome. But I am skeptical it will.
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Dec 13, 2019 13:45
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Truniht posted:Maybe, just maybe, British voters are idiots and don’t deserve the sham of a democracy they have I get that you are upset, but this isn't actually gonna get you what you or I want.
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Dec 13, 2019 13:57
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:Exactly this. One of the main reason for the divide between academics and low wage workers is cultural alienation. Liberal talking points like free movement capital, of peoples and immigration being seen as the only legitimate expression of international solidarity have led to the people who did not pursue academic careers loosing their upward mobility coupled with increasing competition for jobs. This has manifested in the culture wars where working class people tend to be way more socially conservative and traditional than academic leftist types, the alienation between the two lay in values and cultural perceptions. You have to be able to have a decent life with good (or just decent again) economic prospects even if you are not educated and well traveled, even if you live in the rear end end of nowhere.
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Dec 13, 2019 14:18
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ConanThe3rd posted:Yeah. I can’t see any conclusion to this whole stupid shitshow. I want you to explain how this blairite will be elected into this position, considering the changes made to how labour elects it's leaders.
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Dec 13, 2019 14:28
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TwoQuestions posted:How in the hell is the left supposed to appeal to a rural Right that are happy to be poor, and whose primary political objective is ethnic and religious cleansing? Opinions like these are a big part of the problem and what make rural people identify themselves in another camp than the one you are in, even if they don't lust for ethnic cleansing and race wars. Perhaps some sympathy for rural problems, solid promises to funnel money there for schools and infrastructure, to get jobs to come there? Promise some kind of small town / rural re-invigoration program, suck up to them on TV, promise them things, they are so desperate that obvious lying and pandering works wonders.
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Dec 13, 2019 14:48
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Truniht posted:I don’t think calling a racist a racist is problematic No it's not, is that what I said? If so I wrote badly and apologize, or you misunderstood.
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Dec 13, 2019 14:56
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LemonyTang posted:These were all in the Labour manifesto??? Then drat.
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Dec 13, 2019 14:57
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feedmegin posted:Traditionally, over here that's the Lib Dem base. Really, I always thought of them as the urban well off party.
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Dec 13, 2019 16:02
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biglads posted:Slightly less sociopathic Tories Yes.
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Dec 13, 2019 16:05
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Endorph posted:I don't agree with a lot of this but I do think it's got some interesting analysis. Yeah this is what I said earlier. Corbyn had better political instincts than his allies and coworkers. quote:After defeating May’s Withdrawal Agreement, the Labour right pressed home its advantage, agitating for a full shift to Remain. Ironically, they were aided by many grassroots Corbynistas who had bought the identitarian narrative of the EU referendum. A full endorsement of Remain at the 2019 Labour Party conference was only averted by Corbyn’s personal appeal to them to defer a final decision until after a Labour government had renegotiated Brexit. Nonetheless, deserted even by McDonnell, Corbyn’s feeble authority was broken, as shadow cabinet members lined up to confirm they would campaign for Remain.
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Dec 13, 2019 19:25
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Communist Thoughts posted:we shoulda gone lexit lot god damnit poo poo Tesseraction was right all along.
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Dec 13, 2019 19:36
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OwlFancier posted:I do not think the labour campaign was characterised by guillotines for tory voters. It was very very carefully constructed to imply a unity between people against institutions. And even the people on the ground that I was with were emphasising that it is the people in power who are the problem. I am coming to agree with the idea that to voters, Labours campaign came off as trying to bribe and distract people from the fact they voted brexit and came off as patronizing, the idea of a 2nd referendum was more toxic than imagined. Apparently it made people really angry and it was a bigger issue than the labour campaigners thought it would be. So Corbyn was right from the start to whip for article 50 and all the other stuff. Infact Corbyn has been right on the EU his entire career. Frankly I too have trouble understanding the lefts love affair with the neoliberal EU. But anyway he did not actually have the power to stand up the membership which demanded remain so Corbyn had no choice in the manner, all his closest allies had gone remain too.
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Dec 13, 2019 19:51
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Postorder Trollet89 posted:You speak as if the two are separate things. One will affect the other, make a difference in peoples lives and they will vote for you. It's been the secret of Scandinavian social democrats for a full century. Not that they are following it themselves anymore, too busy turning themselves into new labour
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Dec 13, 2019 20:22
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thespaceinvader posted:No, it was specific deal and remain only. Which is the only Labour brexit policy that could ever have realistically got into any Labour manifesto, people are loving dreaming if they think a policy of left-brexit would have got through Conference, let alone that any putative Corbyn government could have got said deal through Parliament. Yes I remember it happening, as everyone turned on Corbyns stance, Owen Jones, McDonnel, Abbot came out in public to support remaim, then the membership vote forced him into this position and everyone back then where convinced that remain was so obviously going to win and Jeremys brexit position could only but lose.
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Dec 14, 2019 08:28
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twoot posted:Brexit will kill people, but the way Labour frames that will be very important to getting the message across. If its couched in a "we should have remained, rejoin ASAP" type way then we will crash and burn. My advice is, give up on rejoning the EU and move on. gently caress the EU might not last long anyway.
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Dec 14, 2019 21:24
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MrFlibble posted:The US and the UK are pretty different beasts politically. I think it's kinda fair because she absolutely espoused the same kind of policies, she's of the same style of politics as Blair.
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Dec 16, 2019 07:01
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Is it just me but what about Corbyn was so bad according to his detractors, because I can't see it. Am I in denial? As I see it, he was totally bodied and hounded in the press for years and years, and apparently that worked. I had hoped it didn't, I thought it hadn't and that the power of the traditional media was broken. But no it worked and people did not like Corbyn to a greater extent than I thought. So I understand why he is not liked in greater society. But putting that aside, why do some posters here dislike him still? Because I assume most here realize the media portrayal of him is not remotely real or representative of Corbyn. I can only see that his policies were too left wing for you.
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Dec 16, 2019 09:00
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Pesmerga posted:There’s an interesting argument developing along the lines of strategic ambiguity being good to begin with, but the longer it went on, the more it bred distrust and really hammered the perception of Corbyn as being honest and straightforward in his politics. I always see him as straight forward lexiteer tbh. The 2nd referendum stuff and remainer stuff smacked of him not being true to his own values. But then again he had given that power away to the membership.
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Dec 16, 2019 09:04
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Braggart posted:Owen Smith is still seeking to understand the true meaning of Coffee. His travels have led him, rumour by rumour, to the sites of the Saracen markets whence came all manner of exotic spices and luxuries. He hears tell of a great land of gold across the desert, and a lost kingdom of Christians to the South. Soon he will join a trade caravan to follow whispers of the true origins of Coffee, but as soon as they leave the city they'll mug him and send him back home. Instead he learns the true meaning of covfefe.
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OwlFancier posted:Excited for the future where it's just the strogg from quake 4. Apparently the leader of the Strogg is called Makron.
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