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I think they’re showing themselves as just weak and desperate by clinging to the whole terrorism angle with this. It’s awful that people died of course, but fundamentally this event was a relative damp squib. Last election had a similar attack AND the Manchester bombing that was a level of magnitude worse and it didn’t really move the needle. Going full racist police state because a weirdo stabbed two people just looks absurd.
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Gruffalo Soldier posted:Hola fellow Labour enthusiasts. This is great but the nav menu on the left breaks on an iPad.
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Gruffalo Soldier posted:Thanks I'll check it out. Can you hit https://www.whatsmybrowser.org/ on your iPad and send me the link it gives you? No problem: https://whatsmybrowser.org/b/8BSFFA6
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This is pretty good: https://twitter.com/jimongus/status/1201992550946607105
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lolOgmius815 posted:There is a pervasive culture of antisemitism in the Labour Party that the current leadership has tolerated. Posters in this thread and UKMT participate in tolerating that culture because they are by and large supporters of the current leadership. But you don’t have to take my word for it . . .
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So, since just before the election was called, I have been volunteering basically full-time at the Momentum campaign office. Most of my time there has been helping to organise this: https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/kz44yw/labour-legends-momentum-canvassing-scheme I’ve spoken to so many people on this over the past weeks, and almost universally they’ve all been thoroughly decent and friendly people. It’s really been a privilege to order them up and down the country. I was pretty reticent about getting involved with Momentum. I didn’t believe the “far-left Momentum thug” stuff, but I thought it would be a pretty miserly scene, kind of like what I heard the SWP was like, without the sexual assault but with the mandatory jazz concerts. But really they’ve just been mainly a lovely group of people who are earnestly trying to make the country, and the world, a better place. It makes the “thug” stuff seem even more ludicrous. Here’s a heartwarming story. Last week at the office, a bunch of “Vote Labour” badges and stickers were given out. Since then I’ve been embroiled in a silent war against a mystery Tory as I would stick the sticker on a pelican crossing post on my way home, and the next day someone would have torn it down. I would then replace it. Tonight I approached the pelican crossing and there was a woman waiting there. I wasn’t super-keen about essentially committing vandalism in front a person, but I didn’t want to lose this war, so I though “gently caress it,” stuck the sticker in front of her and looked away and avoided eye-contact to try and stave off a potential argument. I feel a tugging at my elbow and I brace my self for a conflict, only for her to ask “can I have some of those stickers?” Unfortunately it was my last one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qkf0fLU2Ao
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Xat_Mi78M I was in the Momentum office when Steve Coogan dropped in to film this, and I got to meet him. He seemed like a very nice guy, though weirdly a bit nervous.
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Apraxin posted:From the Graun: That email was probably written months ago and would have been sent out even if the Tories were cruising to an easy landslide.
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ronya posted:remember when we were collectively shocked and awed by Momentum's ground game and how it was running circles around the old way of doing things You can shut your loving face, oval office. Our ground game was excellent, a level of magnitude better organised and better participated-in than last time. Very clearly there are limits to what even the best ground game can do. Anyone arguing that the answer for Labour is more centrism when we just lost because we were too remainey and the Tories also campaigned on promising more investment is an absolute loving idiot.
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sleep with the vicious posted:Very clearly there are limits because bojo kicked your rear end, guvna Wow, a “u mad?” post in 2019, thanks for the hit of nostalgia, feels good.
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Jose posted:poo poo like this is extremely grim Gabrielle Kent was one of my lecturers at university. Glad to see she’s still alright.
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*Ronya drags the folder full of pre-written essays titled “Why Labour Should Return to Centrism After its Victory” into the recycle bin and then opens the folder named “Why Labour Should Return to Centrism After its Loss,” ready to deploy.*
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Why are we indulging this racist?
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You don’t get more right-wing as you get older, you get more right-wing as you get richer. For a while, neoliberalism worked to the degree that you usually got a good bit richer as you got older. Those days are over. Right now, practically no one under 40 votes Tory. In ten years no one under 50 will. In twenty, no one under 60. Long-term, the Tories are doomed. The hope was that this election could be a shortcut to that. Unfortunately it didn’t pan out, but the wider trends are almost unavoidable.
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Merry Christmas, may it be our last.
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/BenKentish/status/1209434602718343169 These polls are basically the same results you’d get if you just asked “which Labour MPs have you heard of”.
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Everyone should watch the new Christmas Carol that was on BBC 1 over the period. It’s pretty overwrought and kind of ludicrously “this isn’t your daddy’s Christmas Carol!!” (it literally opens with a kid pissing on Jacob Morley’s grave), but it also has an extremely explicit anti-capitalist message, and at one point even drops in “the many and the few”.
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Will Hutton’s column in the Guardian today is an incredible 1,000 word high-pitched squeal against the unwashed rabble calling him an idiot on the internet. And “sectarianism within Labour must end, and the only way it can is if everyone agrees I’m right” is an amazing take.
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RLB’s piece had some very vague platitudes towards “patriotism” which didn’t even approach being controversial anywhere outside of leftist spaces like this one. To the vast majority of the country, patriotism just means generally liking the UK, which is not really an reasonable demand for a potential prime minister. The fact that Corbyn was seen as hating the country (a smear from the fascist press of course) was key in Labour’s defeat, so it’s a good idea to try and head that off at the pass as soon as possible. That’s really it. The whole thing really doesn’t merit this level of hand-wringing about it. Also lol at the screaming from melts because Corbyn didn’t publicly commit hari kiri in his New Year’s message.
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