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BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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CommieGIR posted:

US Coast Guard is telling Cruise Ships seeking help at US ports to gently caress off back to their port of registration.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...y-from-u-s-port

Sail to sunny Uzbekistan!

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BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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brains posted:



circling the drain, but as a National Defense Strategy

What does this mean, and how many grams of blow do I have to snort before it makes sense?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Jimmy Smuts posted:

It's the DoD version of timecube

So, two grams.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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"COVID-19 VIRUS DETERMINED TO STRIKE IN US"

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Old Boot posted:

No, they get sneezy/pukey. I don't know if they actually die from it, though.

Aren't cats sneezy/pukey in general?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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That Works posted:

Yeah, Louisiana / creole. He's from LA

Deep Cajun Louisiana, like Alexandria or Colfax.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Eej posted:

Gotta crack a few nursing homes to make a UBI omelette

https://twitter.com/TheMendozaWoman/status/1247121283264978947?s=19

Bolshevism! :ussr:

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Handsome Ralph posted:

https://twitter.com/dave_brown24/status/1247198856523198464

:lol:

This is wilddddd.

Tag yourselves, I'm the sailor yelling "WHAT THE gently caress?" when Modly calls Crozier stupid.

Does the Navy actually want a crew to mutiny?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Acebuckeye13 posted:

Something this crisis is revealing is a mindset among many Americans that I've thought about previously, but hadn't quite put into words on paper.

There is a general sentiment among these people that "America is Great." If you ask them why, they'll of course rattle off a variety of platitudes—freedom, democracy, markets, ARE TROOPS, etc. But for the most part, the fact of America's Greatness is treated as a given, threatened only by ~the libs~, terrorists, and other extremely vague enemies.

There are many reasons, of course, why the United States is such a powerful, wealthy, and influential country: Two and a half centuries of expansion, reform, industry, and luck. It happened because people built systems that were refined over generations, often through bloodshed, whose benefits are now so taken for granted and spared so little thought that to the average person they may not exist at all—even if these systems have an immense impact on their daily lives.

But for the "America is Great" crowd, greatness is not a series of deeply interconnected systems and circumstances—greatness simply is, and even when they acknowledge those systems it's as an obstacle to further Greatness rather than an underpinning reason for it. The United States didn't win World War II through intense preparation, close cooperation between industry, the government, and labor, and the mass sacrifice and bloodshed of American, British, and (especially) Soviet blood—we did it because we were just that great. The United States didn't outlast the Soviet Union in the Cold War because the Soviet system was filled with deep, irreconcilable flaws dating back to the Stalin era and exposed by war, changing political winds, and economic crisis—it was because we were always destined to win, because we were great. And on, and on. And because greatness is a given, they don't have any interest in how it came to be or what it takes to maintain it—and they assume that no matter what they do, it will always be there—so long as a goddamn socialist doesn't get into office.

Nowhere is this more evident than in the response to COVID-19. A common question you often hear is "How could this happen? How could the richest and most powerful country on earth lack ventilators and protective equipment? How could we be so unprepared?" The answer, of course, is simple: We were unprepared because the administration, now almost entirely filled with loyalists to a man whose campaign slogan is "Keep America Great," did not believe preparation was necessary. They believed that the sheer fact that America was great would protect us and shepherd us through the crisis, with no expense or sacrifice required. And even now, as the crisis deepens, their focus isn't on saving lives and protecting the American people, without whom there would be no America—but on protecting "The economy," an arbitrary number made from imaginary dollars that, in their final sense, are mere pieces of paper or digits on a screen. Hundreds of thousands of may die, but they worked hard to protect what mattered—and after all, wouldn't millions more have died if America wasn't Great?

The firing of Captain Crozier, and the response by the Naval Secretary, is a microcosm of this attitude. Crozier, who has been a naval officer since before I was born, and in command of one of the most powerful warships ever built, recognized that each of his hundred thousand nuclear-powered tons of his vessel was worthless without the lives and health of his sailors. Faced with a crisis, he did what he had to do to protect his crew, temporarily ceasing operations to ensure the ship and her crew could regain combat status as quickly as possible while maintaining safety and morale. But in response he has been intensely criticized and removed from his post—not for not acting sooner and more decisively, but for "violating operational secrecy" and leaving our country open to exploitation by vague, undefined enemies. For in the minds of those who believe in America's inherent greatness, it does not matter how effective the ship is, or whether the crew lay dying of preventable disease—only that they do it out of sight, belowdecks, and that the ship remain sailing.

There is a quote I sometimes think about, one I've used before. In 1941, the British Army had lost the Battle of Crete. Tens of thousands of soldiers were stranded on that Mediterranean island, their only hope lying in an evacuation force protected by the ships of the Royal Navy. Sailing without air cover, the ships were hideously vulnerable to German air attack, and several warships were sunk. But at the height of the battle, when asked whether to call off the evacuation, Admiral Cunningham replied: "It takes the Navy three years to build a ship. It will take three hundred years to build a new tradition. The evacuation will continue."

In the end, three cruisers and six destroyers were sunk—but fifteen thousand men were rescued.

If you count from the Declaration of Independence (Though even that document has roots over a thousand years deep), it has taken nearly two hundred and fifty years to build America to what it is now: Three hundred and fifty million lives, connected together not just by lines on a map or pieces of paper but by a shared belief in the idea of America. They are what makes, and have always made, America 'Great' — if it ever truly was. But the people who believe in America's inherent greatness don't see that.

All they see is the ship.

Beautiful words, and I look forward to seeing you primary Biden from the center.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1247178460675612680?s=19

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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bloops posted:

Johnson update: UK govt says he's stable and not on ventilator, so he's definitely on a ventilator.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52201048

If he does die, would it stop Brexit?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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That was fast.

Also get hosed NRA :byewhore:

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Maybe the Brits should go back to the "strange women lying in ponds distributing swords" model of government.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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egyptian rat race posted:

Just on case anybody was wondering how Lynchburg's little gestapo state was doing...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/liberty-university-presses-charges-against-journalists-who-covered-campus-being-n1180731


I really like the Lynchburg area except this university and how local law enforcement treats the homeless there (another story entirely). It's becoming more and more of a "company" town where Falwell branded projects and businesses take precedence over all else.

Lynchburg should just go ahead and secessed from the Union again.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Falwell has been pushing them to secede from Virginia and join up with West Virginia.
Can't imagine anyone making that move voluntarily.

Wait what

Do...do they not know why West Virginia is a separate state?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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BurningChrome posted:

Someone do the trump emoji

:sad:, :chaostrump:, or :chud:?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Gonna start seeing a lot more "I BELIEVE HER #timesup" tweets start disappearing from DNC staffers.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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mlmp08 posted:

And simultaneously appearing from Trump supporters and Kavanaugh fans.

That's some weaponized cognitive dissonance right there.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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https://twitter.com/RealPressSecBot/status/1249295427394064385?s=19

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Casimir Radon posted:

CALM DOWN GUYS IT'S JUST GAMER SLANG

That's what they said about the r-word!

...

no not that one, the other one.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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I just woke up, haven't even had my coffee yet, and I'm already dealing with this bullshit.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1249470237726081030?s=20

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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My Spirit Otter posted:

I seriously dont understand how there haven't been public assassination attempts

Give it time, fascists are always trying to outdo each other by claiming to be more extreme then everyone else.

I'm sure some chud will tell a undercover FBI agent all about how he wants to take a shot at Trump because he's gone soft and 'sold us out to Crooked Hillary and the deep state!'.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Oh good, now Biden can't lose. :geno:

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Elmnt80 posted:

???

There were several attempts that were stopped in the planning/preparation stages. Hell, some dinguses were going to try at the 2008 DNC.

Were the DNC guys the same ones who had a meth lab in the back of their car?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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hobbesmaster posted:

Based on his shoe reaction time he would've tossed the grenade back at whoever threw it.

Bush should just signed with the Astros as a relief pitcher, we would have all been off a lot better.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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That Works posted:

I know this is just because it is prudent / expedient, but it's hard not to squint a little at it and wonder about future balkanization.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/13/politics/states-band-together-reopening-plans/index.html

Let me know when the Confederate State Alliance gets formed.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Milo and POTUS posted:

Considering states had to start bringing in press to cover delivery of medical supplies to keep the Feds from stealing it, it's absolutely a tribute to far cooler heads that nobody's gotten shot over it. The whole damned thing feels fragile as hell and is of course headed by the dumbest mother fucker to ever assume office

A dumb motherfucker who wants life to become a 80s made for TV action movie where he pounds on his desk and orders people killed.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Uhhhhh..... he does know how those end for said table thumper, right?

In mainstream Hollywood productions, yes, but I'm talking about Showtime/Movie Channel original productions, the kind of stuff that Stephen Segal was doing in the 80s before Under Seige.

The hero is a former ex-cop scummy motherfucker in a leather jacket, who spin kicks vaguely ethnic gang members wearing cut off jean jackets and headbands, the love interest is a Madonna knockoff with dirty bleached curly hair and jean shorts, and the main villain is a washed up Hong Kong action star with a shaved head and is actually named Mister Big.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

If you dont want spin kicks get the gently caress out of my America

No honest vigilante needs more then a frontal kick!

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Are presidential phone records covered by FOIA?

I'm curious if the White House has called the Clinton's recently.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

meanwhile, jacinda continues to show trump what an actual leader looks like

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/121027864/ministers-to-take-20-per-cent-pay-cut

Trump can't afford to take that kind of pay cut, he has a family, and Eric, to feed!

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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BurningChrome posted:

Lord you can take me now, I've seen it all.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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pantslesswithwolves posted:

Some pretty damning maps here. No matter what way you look at it, it’s loss


https://twitter.com/lastpositivist/status/1250179539399069701?s=20

Failed campaigns are often harder on the candidate then on the supporters. :cadfan:

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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McNally posted:

but what do you do if someone says "I hope someone flips Mitch McConnell on his back in the desert and then doesn't help him?"

Cite them for violation of the Endangered Species Act?

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Stultus Maximus posted:

What on earth does protesting the lockdown have to do with tactilol vests and assault rifles other than implied threat of violence if they don't get their way?

Obama's biggest mistake was letting these people win in Oregon.

Because it's about THEIR RIGHTS

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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PeterCat posted:

They're nerds, but instead of wearing Spock ears or a Harry Potter cape. they are gun nerds. Insufferable, no social skills, everything is about their stupid hobby, and they act as self-appointed gatekeepers that drive off any normal people who might be interested.

How DARE they disparage the good name of gun nerds!

True gun nerds meet at the range once a month and brag about how the serial number on their Mosin is lower then anyone else's, then start a debate about how the FG42 was the true first assault rifle!

It wasn't.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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Handsome Ralph posted:

Ok yeah, 8K is a loving lot in overdrafts. I have no idea what that families particular backstory is but if USAA is using that money to cover just the actual overdrafts (things they paid for while the family had no money in their account) then that is fair game.


IIRC, most of the time once you hit a certain limit, for obvious reasons, the banks stop letting you overdraft (because a checking account is not a line of credit and it's a liability issue for them). So it's entirely possible out of the 8K, USAA is owed like 150-200 dollars in fees and the rest is entirely what they wrote checks for/used a debit card for.

8k is a shitton of overdrafts, I didn't even know personal accounts could get that high.

BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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facialimpediment posted:

Man, the Governors are really loving sick of Donnie's happytalk bullshit.

https://twitter.com/CrainsChicago/status/1250848248694177792

https://twitter.com/ChadLivengood/status/1250848080351682562/photo/1

I mean, that's a complete political clusterfuck of states banding together to give themselves collective cover.

Does the alliance have a catchy name?

I'm thinking 'Northern States Alliance (NSA)'

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BigDave
Jul 14, 2009

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facialimpediment posted:

https://twitter.com/markdmiller2/status/1250853153890689024

Our current group nominees are:

The People's Republic of the Pacific
The Greater Pennsylvania Dutchie
The Northern Ohio Reich (THE Ohio States?)

Republic of the North (République du Nord)

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