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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Can't report mods, I just tried. Ya got lucky this time, McNally. Can't add them to your ignore list either! Though if you already have them on ignore, they'll remain ignored.
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Apr 1, 2020 22:57
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"Hospital ship is actually holding nefarious secrets" is a new and exciting spin on FEMA death camps imo fale edit: Also a good plot for an RPG session
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Apr 2, 2020 00:02
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Old Boot posted:Late to this but: no, mosquitos can't spread the virus. It isn't bloodborn. Good thing too, I don't think humanity is ready for a virus designed by From Software.
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Apr 3, 2020 16:03
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WHY https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1246261657086672896?s=20 ...Well yes, I know why, but why now ......Well, yes, I know why now, but 
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Apr 4, 2020 05:50
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shame on an IGA posted:Having learned from Sanders' efforts, Joe Biden will be hosting a virtual fireside chat next week. This is their plan to replace big-donor events? And advertising it as a "fireside chat?" making it the worst of both possible worlds in terms of both optics and functional fundraising? loving 
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Apr 4, 2020 22:55
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Kesper North posted:For future reference there's a little "See More..." in between the person's tweets and the random replies that you can press to expand the thread properly. It's a pain in the rear end; part of how Twitter "drives engagement". Yeah, I've noticed that twitter doesn't actually take you to the thread when you click embedded tweets anymore and it's a real pain in the rear end.
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Apr 5, 2020 05:05
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Pence was going to lose reelection in Indiana, he's an incompetent idiot that only looks good when he's standing still for pictures. Don't forget we're talking about a man who freaked out over Mulan.
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Apr 6, 2020 01:07
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Milo and POTUS posted:I'm really conflicted about him because while I definitely like some of the poo poo he did, you can only use the phrase "he was a man of his time" so many times before it just feels like a blanket justification for the many more lovely things he did. That said I'd take almost anyone over what we got at this point Teddy represents, in many ways, both the best and worst of his era. Unflinching courage and bravado, a love for wilderness and a desire to preserve it, a desire to protect Americans from the excesses of big business... but also deep-seated racist paternalism and a lust for war and conflict that ultimately led to his own ruination. A man that can and should be admired for inspirational words and deeds, but whose (many) flaws must not be ignored—which is a sentiment Teddy himself would probably agree with.
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Apr 6, 2020 18:18
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Harry Potter on Ice posted:He didn't care about the wilderness he just wanted places to shoot animals. Hes basically jr. in regards to caring about the wilderness This is... not true. He was an avid hunter, yes, and was not an environmentalist in the modern sense of the word, but he did care deeply for preserving places of natural beauty, like Grand Canyon and Yosemite, as well as bird sanctuaries and other safe havens for migratory species. "Conservation means development as much as it does protection. I recognize the right and duty of this generation to develop and use the natural resources of our land; but I do not recognize the right to waste them, or to rob, by wasteful use, the generations that come after us. I ask nothing of the nation except that it so behave as each farmer here behaves with reference to his own children. That farmer is a poor creature who skins the land and leaves it worthless to his children. The farmer is a good farmer who, having enabled the land to support himself and to provide for the education of his children, leaves it to them a little better than he found it himself. I believe the same thing of a nation." "Moreover, I believe that the natural resources must be used for the benefit of all our people, and not monopolized for the benefit of the few [...]. [...] there are many people who will go with us in conserving the resources only if they are to be allowed to exploit them for their benefit. That is one of the fundamental reasons why the special interests should be driven out of politics. Of all the questions which can come before this nation, short of the actual preservation of its existence in a great war, there is none which compares in importance with the great central task of leaving this land even a better land for our descendants than it is for us, and training them into a better race to inhabit the land and pass it on. Conservation is a great moral issue, for it involves the patriotic duty of insuring the safety and continuance of the nation. Let me add that the health and vitality of our people are at least as well worth conserving as their forests, waters, lands, and minerals, and in this great work the national government must bear a most important part."
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Apr 6, 2020 18:59
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Internet Wizard posted:And so he created the national park system which bans hunting in most parks? Technically Roosevelt did not create the National Park system (Which traditionally marks its founding with the creation of either Yosemite in 1864 or Yellowstone in 1872) or the National Park Service (Founded in 1916 to manage the National Parks). Roosevelt's main contribution, aside from being a very vocal advocate for conservation, was in applying the Antiquities Act of 1906 (Designed to prevent European archaeologists from hauling off native artifacts from sites like Mesa Verde) widely and fervently, granting protections to a large number of sites like the aforementioned Mesa Verde, Chaco Canyon, Devil's Tower, Grand Canyon, and others as National Monuments—many of which were later given full-fledged status as National Parks.
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Apr 6, 2020 19:03
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:pray for bojo may I offer an alternative perspective: 
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Apr 6, 2020 21:42
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Something this crisis is revealing is a mindset among many Americans that I've thought about previously, but hadn't quite put into words on paper. There is a general sentiment among these people that "America is Great." If you ask them why, they'll of course rattle off a variety of platitudes—freedom, democracy, markets, ARE TROOPS, etc. But for the most part, the fact of America's Greatness is treated as a given, threatened only by ~the libs~, terrorists, and other extremely vague enemies. There are many reasons, of course, why the United States is such a powerful, wealthy, and influential country: Two and a half centuries of expansion, reform, industry, and luck. It happened because people built systems that were refined over generations, often through bloodshed, whose benefits are now so taken for granted and spared so little thought that to the average person they may not exist at all—even if these systems have an immense impact on their daily lives. But for the "America is Great" crowd, greatness is not a series of deeply interconnected systems and circumstances—greatness simply is, and even when they acknowledge those systems it's as an obstacle to further Greatness rather than an underpinning reason for it. The United States didn't win World War II through intense preparation, close cooperation between industry, the government, and labor, and the mass sacrifice and bloodshed of American, British, and (especially) Soviet blood—we did it because we were just that great. The United States didn't outlast the Soviet Union in the Cold War because the Soviet system was filled with deep, irreconcilable flaws dating back to the Stalin era and exposed by war, changing political winds, and economic crisis—it was because we were always destined to win, because we were great. And on, and on. And because greatness is a given, they don't have any interest in how it came to be or what it takes to maintain it—and they assume that no matter what they do, it will always be there—so long as a goddamn socialist doesn't get into office. Nowhere is this more evident than in the response to COVID-19. A common question you often hear is "How could this happen? How could the richest and most powerful country on earth lack ventilators and protective equipment? How could we be so unprepared?" The answer, of course, is simple: We were unprepared because the administration, now almost entirely filled with loyalists to a man whose campaign slogan is "Keep America Great," did not believe preparation was necessary. They believed that the sheer fact that America was great would protect us and shepherd us through the crisis, with no expense or sacrifice required. And even now, as the crisis deepens, their focus isn't on saving lives and protecting the American people, without whom there would be no America—but on protecting "The economy," an arbitrary number made from imaginary dollars that, in their final sense, are mere pieces of paper or digits on a screen. Hundreds of thousands of may die, but they worked hard to protect what mattered—and after all, wouldn't millions more have died if America wasn't Great? The firing of Captain Crozier, and the response by the Naval Secretary, is a microcosm of this attitude. Crozier, who has been a naval officer since before I was born, and in command of one of the most powerful warships ever built, recognized that each of his hundred thousand nuclear-powered tons of his vessel was worthless without the lives and health of his sailors. Faced with a crisis, he did what he had to do to protect his crew, temporarily ceasing operations to ensure the ship and her crew could regain combat status as quickly as possible while maintaining safety and morale. But in response he has been intensely criticized and removed from his post—not for not acting sooner and more decisively, but for "violating operational secrecy" and leaving our country open to exploitation by vague, undefined enemies. For in the minds of those who believe in America's inherent greatness, it does not matter how effective the ship is, or whether the crew lay dying of preventable disease—only that they do it out of sight, belowdecks, and that the ship remain sailing. There is a quote I sometimes think about, one I've used before. In 1941, the British Army had lost the Battle of Crete. Tens of thousands of soldiers were stranded on that Mediterranean island, their only hope lying in an evacuation force protected by the ships of the Royal Navy. Sailing without air cover, the ships were hideously vulnerable to German air attack, and several warships were sunk. But at the height of the battle, when asked whether to call off the evacuation, Admiral Cunningham replied: "It takes the Navy three years to build a ship. It will take three hundred years to build a new tradition. The evacuation will continue." In the end, three cruisers and six destroyers were sunk—but fifteen thousand men were rescued. If you count from the Declaration of Independence (Though even that document has roots over a thousand years deep), it has taken nearly two hundred and fifty years to build America to what it is now: Three hundred and fifty million lives, connected together not just by lines on a map or pieces of paper but by a shared belief in the idea of America. They are what makes, and have always made, America 'Great' — if it ever truly was. But the people who believe in America's inherent greatness don't see that. All they see is the ship. 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Apr 7, 2020 01:12
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That Works posted:Did you write this? Nice stuff. It has far too many em dashes and italics to have been written by anybody else 
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Apr 7, 2020 01:17
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BUG JUG posted:Might steal and drop this a couple places. please credit me as "a weirdo on a dying internet forum" tia
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Apr 7, 2020 02:03
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Handsome Ralph posted:https://twitter.com/byPatPoblete/status/1247354041878921218 These motherfuckers probably feel safe because even though the correct answer to this sham of an election is massive protests and an occupation of the state capitol building (again) and honestly? this is the point where a full-blown riot is absolutely an acceptable response, people can't precisely for the same reasons they can't get out and vote: the goddamn pandemic. And by the time it's died down to the point where people can gather in large enough numbers, temperatures will have also cooled down to the point where it'll be hard to get enough numbers and energy for an appropriate response. loving bastards. Traitors to their state, their nation, and the people they represent.
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Apr 7, 2020 04:36
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Everyone is angry and depressed about everything and directing that anger at each other isn't going to help anything.
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Apr 7, 2020 14:56
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Flying_Crab posted:This is my polling location. Be safe, man.
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Apr 7, 2020 15:00
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A month ago we could still go outside, nobody knows what the election is going to look like in seven (seven!) months, so blaming people for voting for/against Biden is more than a little premature. (Also, telling someone they're terrible for voting for/against someone is a great way to get them to continue voting that way out of sheer spite, so let's try not to do that.)
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Apr 7, 2020 16:08
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Godspeed, Bernie. A better man than we deserved.
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Apr 8, 2020 16:32
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Fallom posted:Did people think Bernie was still going to get the nomination? He lost a month ago. There's a lot of people out there that don't understand delegate math. source: my Facebook feed
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Apr 8, 2020 16:46
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egyptian rat race posted:I'm trying to reconcile what happened to Al Franken versus how Biden is being handled today and I keep crashing the spreadsheet. Please help I think the big difference is that in every big sexual assault accusation that's blown up, there's always been multiple accusers. Clinton, Cosby, Trump, Weinstein, Lauer, Kavanaugh, most of them followed the same pattern—when one accusation came out, they were swiftly followed by others accusing the same behavior. Which, of course, is typically how it works—rapists and abusers don't stop at one person, they use their power to do whatever the hell they want, and often get more brazen about it the longer they go on. Even Franken had multiple people calling out his behavior, with photographic evidence, though of course his conduct was far less heinous than that of the other men I've mentioned. With Biden, that hasn't quite happened yet. There was a minor blowup about his inability to respect personal space around women last year, as we all remember, but even that was a far cry from what even Franken had done (Which involved unwanted kisses and groping as "jokes"). The most recent accusation is by far the most heinous, but it's also one accusation, with little to no contemporary evidence—which means, in effect, it's a "he said, she said" situation. I think most democrats, and I'll even include Bernie in this category, are in a wait-and-see attitude towards the accusation. It's serious and deserve to be investigated, but at this point it would be difficult for most of them to demand outright he step down based on a single unsubstantiated statement. If more women begin to come out and say "Joe Biden forcefully kissed me/groped me/raped me," then I imagine you'll see a lot of people in the party suddenly rediscover their spines—but until then, they'll say nothing and hope it's not true.
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Apr 8, 2020 17:14
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That Works posted:witness the bloodbath F
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Apr 8, 2020 18:10
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Fallom posted:Impressed they didn’t try to renege on the toxx this time lmao eh, they're not Permas, which is what the Hillary toxxes they tried to back down from were.
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Apr 8, 2020 18:35
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shame on an IGA posted:It's slowed down since Lightning Knight's lunch break ended but they'll reach me eventually. godspeed
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Apr 8, 2020 20:21
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https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/1248318170328379392?s=20 Both moves are limited, but student debt forgiveness in particular is a pretty big concession from Biden. Apparently his campaign is in active talks with the Sanders campaign, so it'll be interesting to see what other concessions they lay out in the weeks/months to come.
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Apr 9, 2020 19:53
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A Bad Poster posted:Edit: ^^^ Picking Sanders as VP is the only concession that would make me vote for him. I don't think that's a possibility, since Sanders doesn't really make up for (one of) Biden's biggest weaknesses, being an old white dude, and I have my doubts Sanders would want to give up his position in the Senate anyway. With that said, if they're truly serious about courting Sanders' voters, I think they'll probably go for someone who endorsed Medicare for All, if not Sanders himself. Tammy Baldwin I've obviously mentioned before. Maybe Pramila Jayapal?
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Apr 9, 2020 20:06
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maffew buildings posted:Is there literally any other politician with his positions that is eligible and isn't on the DNC "gently caress this person" list? ...Yes? Several, in fact. Many, even!
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Apr 9, 2020 20:38
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maffew buildings posted:Ok so who are the ELIGIBLE Dems that have the same platform as Sanders that the party hasn't actively tried to tear down? Ayanna Pressley, Pramila Jayapal for starters.
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Apr 9, 2020 23:32
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PookBear posted:stacey abrams took a shitload of cash from bloomberg Eh I'm not gonna blame her/her organization for taking Bloombucks, voting rights is an important thing and it's one of the least terrible things Bloomberg can do with his money.
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Apr 10, 2020 01:07
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Casimir Radon posted:I still don't trust Wisconsin to not disappoint me. Oh I always expect Wisconsin to cause me disappointment, but that's mostly due to Aaron Rodgers.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:33
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hobbesmaster posted:Other parallel universe options include MLB commissioner dubya making everyone forget about steroids using folksy charm. There's an alternate universe where Bush is MLB commissioner and Rice is NFL commissioner and that is a much, much happier universe than ours.
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Apr 14, 2020 01:45
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Mr. Nice! posted:I will agree that it is absolutely lovely there was nothing in the bill that exempted banks from collecting on these types of debt. My understanding is that there is, but it's up to Treasury to enforce it. Guess what Treasury isn't doing!
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Apr 16, 2020 16:18
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Doc Hawkins posted:it's not selective-fire, and i'm pretty sure its ammo is too small Fun fact, Imperial Russia actually ordered a poo poo-ton of American lever-action rifles (Winchester 1895s) and used them during World War I, the only major power to do so. (Russia also used what can be considered the first actual assault rifle, the Fedorov Avtomat. Not that it helped them much, considering the horrendous condition and performance of the Imperial Russian Army and its leadership.) e: anyway, current events! https://twitter.com/RuralChrisLee/status/1250771491144138752?s=19
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Apr 16, 2020 16:46
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I worked in a preschool classroom briefly as part of an internship a couple of years ago, and the thought of even one of those kids dying from this chills me to my core. "Only" 2-3% what the gently caress
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Apr 16, 2020 18:24
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facialimpediment posted:Man, the Governors are really loving sick of Donnie's happytalk bullshit. If they start calling themselves the "Industrial States of America" that's when you know to start investing in Zeppelin futures
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Apr 16, 2020 19:59
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facialimpediment posted:The Northern Ohio Reich (THE Ohio States?) you son of a bitch you take that back
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Apr 16, 2020 20:46
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Yeah Chiche is disingenuous as all hell and I'm pretty sure 75-80% of his posts are actually trolling, and that includes his posts in TFF.
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Apr 20, 2020 12:59
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Mr. Nice! posted:These are may futures prices, and the main brokerage has announced they're going to allow negative trading. The issue is no one has room to actually store anything because there's no demand. If you can actually hold onto 1000 barrels of crude, you may get paid to do so soon. brb googling how to build a 50,000 gallon oil silo in my backyard
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Mr. Nice! posted:It hit 0 briefly meaning someone just got rid of a contract for 1000 barrels of WTI for may 20 delivery for free. I'm pretty sure if you went back to say, fall 2007 and told someone everything that happens over the next twelve and a half years—the Great Recession, the elections of both Obama and Trump, gay marriage, ISIS, smartphones, etc, the single most unbelievable thing you could tell them is oil hitting $0 a barrel.
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