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So that this doesn't continue to poo poo up the CE thread, argue here about whether voting for Biden is worthwhile. I personally will almost surely vote for him, but I will not campaign or fight for him because I don't believe anything will be fundamentally different (because he's gonna lose).
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SquirrelyPSU posted:I'm pissed we have to stare down the barrel of this for another 6 months.
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Apr 7, 2020 15:52
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I really hope the biden ticket does something to motivate people, because all I can see right now is a red sweep in november.
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Apr 8, 2020 16:51
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I'm going to vote for biden because I understand our two party system. I'm going to make sure everyone I personally know votes because it's important, and I loving hope there are some people worthwhile elsewhere on the ballot I can recommend. With that said, I do not care for Joe Biden, and I cannot fight for him. I can't argue for him, because I cannot fight for a rapist piece of poo poo. I will not volunteer with the democratic party as I have the past four years because they no longer represent me. I don't genuinely believe that they will win in the fall. The party does not support me and is beholden to the exact same handful of billionaires that are running the republican party. Good luck calling people selfish assholes for not wanting to support a rapist racist piece of poo poo, though.
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Apr 8, 2020 17:58
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TCD posted:I'd still say its worth it to try at the local level. The tea party just didn't hit the national stage at the first crack. In my home town, we had a movement very similar to the tea party start to hit the county seats WAYYY before I heard about the official tea party. My local situation is unchangeable. Gerrymandering at the federal level has me in a progressive's district as I live in a black part of town so I'm tallied up with Jacksonville instead of people down the street from me. The other federal district (and more populous portion) is either chuds or centrist democrats. It is not possible to get progressive persons elected locally despite a lot of effort because the voting base, even if technically democratic, is extremely conservative. I really just need to get out of north florida because I cannot change how people are here.
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Apr 8, 2020 21:00
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:I wonder if we have even a single pro trump gipper? We’ve got our conservatives, but none have any support or love for trump and most have said they didn’t vote for him. (I’m inclined to believe them.) We used to have a loud one but he hosed off in late 2016 early 2017 and just posts in gbs, c-spam, and tfr now, iirc. e: vikingskull iirc
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Apr 8, 2020 22:34
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Best Friends posted:You're allowed to like Biden anywhere, but if you dislike Biden or mention literally anything about his actual policy history you can only post it here, it's the rules Don't be dense. This situation is exactly like copchat used to be. You cannot have a worthwhile current events thread when 90% of it is a handful of people yelling at each other about biden sucking. This is the thread for bitching about him. I don't want to vote for biden. I don't like him as a candidate or as a person. I think he's been on the wrong side of history over and over again, and I think he will do nothing to actually move the country in a progressive fashion. Biden does nothing to stave off the inevitable collapse of America.
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Jun 11, 2020 23:30
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Knives Amilli posted:No doubt the DNC likes to back the safe Dem but LOL at Rural Kentucky ever supporting A Black democratic senator. Nah. They do. A lot of the new voters in South Carolina, for example, were brought to the polls by bernie and bernie's policies. They voted for biden because they got blasted for the 4-5 days leading to the primary that he was the only one who would be able to beat trump, and that mattered more. The majority of the population wants medicare for all. The majority of the population wants gun control and police accountability.
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Jul 8, 2020 12:23
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Biden doesn't want to change the border policy because it is almost the exact same border policy that Trump took over from them. Obama was locking kids in cages, too.
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Jul 9, 2020 18:29
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Obama wasn't separating families or making it impossible to apply for asylum, this is an extremely bad take Obama absolutely separated families, although not at the same scale as Trump. Obama had very similar deterrence approaches and such as well. I'm not saying they're equal. I'm saying that Trump merely expanded or took extant programs to the extreme.
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Jul 9, 2020 18:41
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My boss and I are both left types although he is a bit more conservative than me. He wanted Klob. We're both quite disappointed in this. I don't have any motivation to support this ticket. I know a lot of people are going to yell at me for this, but I really do not want to vote for Biden/Harris. I don't think they do anything to fix this country and are going to do nothing to stop it from sliding further into gilded age 2.0. I want off this ride.
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Aug 11, 2020 21:43
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PeterCat posted:It really bums me out that she will be the front runner in 2024 if Biden wins this year. She will probably be president by 2023 if Biden wins. The IF is doing a lot of heavy lifting. I think this choice depresses further Biden's already abysmal voter motivation.
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Aug 11, 2020 22:25
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Dorstein posted:If you want to cheer yourself up, go look up who the first and second-most liberal senators as ranked by DW-NOMINATE are. Booker, Warren, and Harris to the left of Bernia? 
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Aug 12, 2020 12:30
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Doc Hawkins posted:
Marx understood that an armed proletariat is the only way for the workers to take control. Reagan wanted to disarm blacks specifically. He didn't give two shits about white guys with guns. Gun control is sensible, but it isn't a pure left/right thing.
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Aug 12, 2020 22:18
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Liquid Communism posted:So now I'm starting to wonder if the Dems want to win at all. If it makes you feel any better, it literally does not matter who wins we will all be subject to the devastation of climate change and it is too late to reverse what's happening. Greenland's ice is melting faster than can be replaced with snowfall. Once that fully melts ocean levels are going to be around 20 feet higher than they are now. Fires are raging in Siberia at levels that we didn't expect until 2050, and we're going to have a blue ocean event (full arctic ice melt) within the next few years. We get to watch billions die over our lifetime regardless of whether Trump or Biden wins in the fall.
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Aug 20, 2020 12:28
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Grip it and rip it posted:Can't imagine there will be any difference in how these eventualities will be handled based on who we elect. None at all. I agree that Biden will be better than Trump on climate, but we're talking about moving the devastation a year or two back not reversing it. We're through the looking glass already.
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Aug 20, 2020 19:04
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I wonder if people had voted for Bernie if politicians would have responded or continued to try to ratfuck him.
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Aug 31, 2020 20:09
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My vote has been received and counted.
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Oct 21, 2020 13:38
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Fister Roboto posted:https://twitter.com/hollyotterbein/status/1321190162123137024 That's the message old people in america want to hear, though.
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Oct 28, 2020 00:25
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