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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

(thanks Unkempt)

Aw yeah it's Happy Monday as everything opens back up and nothing matters any more for the next couple of weeks (keep watching that number).

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Free Academic Books For All Your Lockdown Needs Here

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Load of free non-fiction books from Springer: everything from computer touching / physics / maths / business / theatre / social justice etc etc.

https://link.springer.com/search/pa...st&showAll=true

May saw the whole country in lockdown except for some people who broke it and resigned, and one notable person who broke it several times and refused to resign. Then American police killed some African American people and tried to blame everyone but themselves, leading to mass protests in solidarity, also some people in Dorset jumped off of a cliff during a pandemic.

Rosa Luxemburg - June Pamphlet posted:

Violated, dishonored, wading in blood, dripping filth—there stands bourgeois society.
This is it. Not all spic and span and moral, with pretense to culture, philosophy, ethics, order, peace, and the rule of law—but the ravening beast, the witches’ sabbath of anarchy, a plague to culture and humanity. Thus it reveals itself in its true, its naked form.
In the midst of this witches’ sabbath a catastrophe of world-historical proportions has happened: International Social Democracy has capitulated. To deceive ourselves about it, to cover it up, would be the most foolish, the most fatal thing the proletariat could do.
Imperialism and all its political brutality, the chain of incessant social catastrophes that it has let loose, is undoubtedly a historical necessity for the ruling classes of the contemporary capitalist world.

Nothing would be more fatal for the proletariat than to delude itself into believing that it were possible after this war to rescue the idyllic and peaceful continuation of capitalism. However, the conclusion to be drawn by proletarian policy from the historical necessity of imperialism is that surrender to imperialism will mean living forever in its victorious shadow and eating from its leftovers.

In Other News :sax:
• MP Conor Burns resigns as Minister of State for Trade Policy after a report found he used his position as an MP to intimidate a member of the public.
• Overall measures of wellbeing are reported to be at their lowest levels since records began in 2011.
• The UK death toll from COVID-19 becomes the highest in Europe.
• Bat Stokes, Matt and Dec, and Man Antcock open NHS Nightingale Hospital North East.
• The government approves Cleve Hill Solar Park on the north Kent coast, the UK's biggest ever solar farm at 900 acres in size and 350MW of capacity, enough to power over 91,000 homes.
• Other news still cancelled due to Coronavirus.


Green was the silence, wet was the light, the month of June trembled like a butterfly.

Also It's Hot :sun:


Whitsuntide
UKMT May 2020 - Let them eat Nando's
UKMT April 2020 - The Betacoronavirus and the Virgin Atlantic
All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter)

Gathering Day
Europol Thread
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Düsseldorf's Cartwheeler Day
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We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The second-most UKMT-iest of Podcasts.
Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts.
Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out.
Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good.
Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik
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Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests.
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mehall posted:

Fresh new podcast on the state of Labour factionalism from your thread comrades over at Podcasting is Praxis, plus also Jack off of Reel Politik -

https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1255989056674107394?s=20

Inventors' and Rationalizers' Day
Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh
Demanding The Impossible - David Morland
Demanding the Impossible: A History of Anarchism - Peter Marshall
Chav Solidarity - D. Hunter
No Shortcuts: Organizing for Power in the New Gilded Age - Jane McAlevey
Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy
At The Café – Malatesta
The Method of Freedom – Malatesta
In Praise of Idleness – Russell
Political Ideals – Russell
Declaration – Hardt and Negri
Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo
God and the State – Bakunin
The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin
Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin
Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman
Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg
Violence – Slavoj Zizek
Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber
Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze
Flat Earth News - Nick Davies
Hack Attack - Nick Davies
Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin
Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin
A Brief History of Neoliberalism – David Harvey
Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons

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learnincurve posted:

Need something added to every OP. DWP have been told not to tell sanctioned people about this.

If you get sanctioned then to prevent your housing and council tax benefits falling like a house of cards, and in some case get access to a utility bill fund, call your local council for a "Nil Income Form".

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Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jul 7, 2020

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
This thread is wrong while negotiations in May are still ongoing.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Finally a UKMT without the politics.

Solefald
Jun 9, 2010

sleepy~capy


rip me murdered by pollen

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Solefald posted:

rip me murdered by pollen

Mine hasn't kicked in yet, mercifully, but I probably only have a month left, if that.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Happy Monday everyone, brought to you by the most normal country.

Also that GWU thing looks like a shitshow, hate these left infights that crop up where there's no clear series of events to refer to and a strong implication that you're not supposed to ask.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Who the gently caress is bez he looks like pound shop bruce forsyth.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

OwlFancier posted:

Who the gently caress is bez he looks like pound shop bruce forsyth.

:getout:

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

OwlFancier posted:

A union without politics is like, a particularly dull tea social isn't it?

A trade union 'without politics', in the UK context, could well refer to a union that chooses not to have a political fund as defined under the Trade Union Act 1984

The status quo is that UK unions since Thatcherism are somewhat 'without politics' anyway; that was the whole shtick with the ban on secondary action, the introduction of a separate political fund, and regulation of executive elections or wildcat actions - the UK trade union is a quasi-corporate body that exists to execute the collective bargaining rights such a creature enjoys as defined in labour law, not as a political association of its members. Minority union members have rights to constraints on union executive powers - like minority shareholders. It is a quasi-corporate creature whose powers and privileges are defined in statute

"But you'll never finally revolutionise society, only chit-chat with your employer's negotiators every few years" might be an outcome actively supported by certain kinds of unions... for some folks, having their annual review handled by professionals really is all they expect out of labour representation

(this kind of thing does have some soft left support.... back when the best the left could hope for was Ed Miliband, Ghent-style concepts enjoyed some popularity. That is, anchor trade union membership by giving them a statutory monopoly on some services (unemployment insurance, pensions administration, codetermination) and then embrace the unstoppable train of depoliticization as Ed Miliband did. One can still see the think-tank traces of this in sectoral collective bargaining... there are many UK folks on the soft left who are either not aware, or are aware but don't care, that the de facto penalty for sectoral bargaining and statutory tripartism on the continent is studied political independence of the unions. If one claims to speak for everyone in the sector - not merely a large number or even a majority - then there will be demands for rigid controls on what one says with that voice. British people in full-time or part-time work are still, in the end, much like the country at large - a people who vote more narrowly Conservative than they do Labour - and slapping ~half of them with a levy to fund the other party would be intolerable)

ronya fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Jun 1, 2020

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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OwlFancier posted:

Who the gently caress is bez he looks like pound shop bruce forsyth.

Bez has done it all. Madchester in the 80s, daytime TV in the 90s, Celeb Big Brother in the 00s, beaten in a parliamentary election by Rebecca Long-Bailey in the 10s. He's the UK's answer to the Renaissance man.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

May sucked I lost a family friend to covid. Kiiiinda bracing myself to lose more.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
A tiny bit of unfinished business from the last thread - I was struggling to remember the name of the American bluetick who managed to perfectly encapsulate two hard-and-fast rules of the universe:

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1267060056203427840

- Anyone with a cartoon of themselves as their avatar is a twat
- Any portrait with the subject's hands visible is the mark of a dickhead

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Michael Tracey is a right-wing guy cosplaying as a left-leaning guy who is so obnoxiously contrarian he has been retweeted by Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Tesseraction posted:

Michael Tracey is a right-wing guy cosplaying as a left-leaning guy who is so obnoxiously contrarian he has been retweeted by Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America.

Must be why they kicked him off Tracey Island before the series started :v:

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

goddamnedtwisto posted:

A tiny bit of unfinished business from the last thread - I was struggling to remember the name of the American bluetick who managed to perfectly encapsulate two hard-and-fast rules of the universe:

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1267060056203427840

- Anyone with a cartoon of themselves as their avatar is a twat
- Any portrait with the subject's hands visible is the mark of a dickhead

I really enjoy these takes because it's basically "black people are rioting because the police murder them discriminately, white people don't, therefore white people are better."

Pencils R Cool
Feb 16, 2011
https://twitter.com/keewa/status/1267411464207433729

I grew up in a Hipster Coffee Shop, and you?

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

goddamnedtwisto posted:

A tiny bit of unfinished business from the last thread - I was struggling to remember the name of the American bluetick who managed to perfectly encapsulate two hard-and-fast rules of the universe:

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1267060056203427840

- Anyone with a cartoon of themselves as their avatar is a twat
- Any portrait with the subject's hands visible is the mark of a dickhead

Yes, I'm sure those statistics are absolutely accurate to the numbers WaPo presumably got from the police, who don't recortd the numbers of unarmed black people they murder.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

A tiny bit of unfinished business from the last thread - I was struggling to remember the name of the American bluetick who managed to perfectly encapsulate two hard-and-fast rules of the universe:

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1267060056203427840
According to the Washington Post database, a total of 41 unarmed people were shot and killed by US police in 2019. The racial composition of victims is:
White: 19 (46%)
Black: 9 (22%)
Hispanic: 6 (15%)
Other: 4 (10%)
Unknown: 3 (7%)

According to the 2010 U.S Census, the composition of the USA is:
White 72.4%
Black or African American 12.6%
Hispanic and Latino 16.3%
Other 15%

So yes Michael good job proving that police shoot African Americans at a disproportionately higher rate and white Americans at a disproportionately lower rate.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

- Anyone with a cartoon of themselves as their avatar is a twat
- Any portrait with the subject's hands visible is the mark of a dickhead
- Pipe multiplies any of the above by 1000

Lord Ludikrous
Jun 7, 2008

Enjoy your tea...

As promised in the last thread I luckily have Thousand Sons to paint so was able to take one for the team and watch this movie from beginning to end.



It’s certainly something. The plot follows a priest who ends up getting mixed up with a scientist who due to nearing the menopause (despite the actress looking in her late 20s) has opted to implant an embryo so she can have a child. This embryo happens to be a clone of Princess Diana. Now she could make do with any old embryo but in her words if it isn’t Diana then she won’t get any book or film deals. Apparently Diana was “officially the most beautiful person in the world - inside and out.”

The film is trying to be a web-of-intrigue thriller but goes off the rails with too many plot threads and additional characters, with some downright baffling choices like using hilariously unconvincing special effects instead of using readily available cheap stock footage.

The best way I can describe this film is it’s like one of those porn-with-a-plot movies but without any actual sex or nudity, written and filmed by someone with a real hard on for the royals/Diana. Honestly Neil Breen makes more coherent films than this.

Would be good for a laugh with some friends and booze mind, especially for the helicopter special effect shot which is someone holding a toy chopper with their hand just out of frame in front of some aerial footage.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
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Maugrim fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jun 18, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

thespaceinvader posted:

Yes, I'm sure those statistics are absolutely accurate to the numbers WaPo presumably got from the police, who don't recortd the numbers of unarmed black people they murder.
Hey be fair it's only recording unarmed people shot and not the people they armed after the shooting.

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Any portrait with the subject's hands visible is the mark of a dickhead

My FB profile pic includes my hand, theory stands up.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

Who the gently caress is bez he looks like pound shop bruce forsyth.

Mate. How? How don't you know Bez, the pulled up guy who danced and shook maracas for the Happy Mondays 30 years ago?

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Can this weather gently caress off please?

I don't live in Scotland - on a hill - to be sweating sitting in my house.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

forkboy84 posted:

Mate. How? How don't you know Bez, the pulled up guy who danced and shook maracas for the Happy Mondays 30 years ago?

I was busy making GBS threads my pants constantly at the time.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
I love how the tousim/hospitality industries have got one whiff of freedom and immediately started hammering on the table, demanding we sacrifice the entire country to the plague gods.

mehall posted:

Can this weather gently caress off please?

I don't live in Scotland - on a hill - to be sweating sitting in my house.
Get naked.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

mehall posted:

Can this weather gently caress off please?

I don't live in Scotland - on a hill - to be sweating sitting in my house.

gonna be a bad one this year. may was already the hottest on record.

Skilbs
Jul 20, 2006


Bad news Goons. In-person D&D games are now illegal.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/01/sex-someone-dont-live-illegal-today-12785637/

quote:

New coronavirus guidelines have made it illegal to have sex in your own home with a person from another household from today. The government is set to lay out the new regulations this morning, which will ban people from socialising indoors with a person from outside your household bubble. The new regulation reads: ‘No person may participate in a gathering which takes place in a public or private place indoors, and consists of two or more persons.’

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


mehall posted:

Can this weather gently caress off please?

I don't live in Scotland - on a hill - to be sweating sitting in my house.

My parents front lawn is already looking burnt like it's mid July. I've been enjoying it mostly, chilling in the garden reading old comics and just doing nothing but reading and drinking tea, think my arms are going to end up tanned for the first time in donkey years.

At least last night ruled, was 10C and felt like 5C. Great sleep

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

goddamnedtwisto posted:

A tiny bit of unfinished business from the last thread - I was struggling to remember the name of the American bluetick who managed to perfectly encapsulate two hard-and-fast rules of the universe:

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1267060056203427840

- Anyone with a cartoon of themselves as their avatar is a twat
- Any portrait with the subject's hands visible is the mark of a dickhead

the primary thing to note about michael tracey is he got bodied by 80 year old US representative maxine waters and had a huge loving meltdown about it

https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/871142548424671232?s=20

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I was hoping that she like, literally body checked him down a flight of stairs or something.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Guavanaut posted:

- Pipe multiplies any of the above by 1000


The original version had both the pipe and the hand in it, even (until the artist demanded Graham stopped using it due to not wanting his art associated with a raging bigot, resulting in it being redrawn by a raging bigot who could draw)

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
For that you need Ben Jacobs who got body slammed by a us representative and was still unable to properly call the guy out after lol

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

ronya posted:

A trade union 'without politics', in the UK context, could well refer to a union that chooses not to have a political fund as defined under the Trade Union Act 1984

Finally, a teachers' union without a political fund as defined under the Trade Union Act 1984!

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009

forkboy84 posted:

My parents front lawn is already looking burnt like it's mid July. I've been enjoying it mostly, chilling in the garden reading old comics and just doing nothing but reading and drinking tea, think my arms are going to end up tanned for the first time in donkey years.

At least last night ruled, was 10C and felt like 5C. Great sleep

Yeah it does cool down overnight which is key. It breaks here on wed with some rain and then cooler after.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Continued from the last thread:

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1267398703561801730?s=19

1:Dunt left Chile when he was 4.

2: What was Dunt's British family doing in Chile during the Cold War under Pinochet? :magemage:

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

baka kaba posted:

Finally, a teachers' union without a political fund as defined under the Trade Union Act 1984!

I don't think OF had that specifically in mind - hence my quick sketch of why, in fact, a union 'without politics' is a real thing that exists in UK labour law

It does look like the the organisation Adonis mentions does actively have it in mind...



except for the fact that it isn't a trade union at all and hence doesn't have any collective bargaining powers to begin with... its main raison d'etre appears to be liability coverage and legal guidance, the professional services are a freebie in order to compete with a union which might also offer its own representation.

quote:

Christine Blower, general secretary of the NUT, said: “Edapt is one of a number of insurance companies seeking to persuade teachers they do not need the collective strength of a trade union to ensure that they are not only fully protected and supported at work but that their professional needs are also met.

“The majority of teachers recognise the importance of being part of a strong trade union which is, in the case of the NUT, also a professional association.

“Thus far very few teachers have taken up the limited arrangements offered by Edapt. We believe this is likely to continue.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ns-9093603.html

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

ronya posted:

I don't think OF had that specifically in mind - hence my quick sketch of why, in fact, a union 'without politics' is a real thing that exists in UK labour law

It does look like the the organisation Adonis mentions does actively have it in mind...



except for the fact that it isn't a trade union at all and hence doesn't have any collective bargaining powers to begin with... its main raison d'etre appears to be liability coverage and legal guidance, the professional services are a freebie in order to compete with a union which might also offer its own representation.

Other than video chats, all teaching unions currently offer all those other things. I guess you can argue about 'best value'. Teaching unions don't even endorse political parties anymore ffs.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Gonzo McFee posted:

Continued from the last thread:

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/1267398703561801730?s=19

1:Dunt left Chile when he was 4.

2: What was Dunt's British family doing in Chile during the Cold War under Pinochet? :magemage:

https://twitter.com/IanDunt/status/804840725758218244?s=20

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Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
The further we get into Dunt's past the more we're going to find out that his dad worked as a "diplomat" and his Guatemalan mother's maiden name was Hilda Luftwaffe.

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