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Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

wheatpuppy posted:

That's also how Payne Stewart died. Plane full of zombies just flew in a straight line until it ran out of fuel and hit the ground.

The worst part of that is that the checklist for fixing what was wrong didn't say to put on oxygen masks first. They do now.

13Pandora13 posted:

One of the prevailing theories about MH370 is that the craft met the same end, either from an intentional act or accidental (as was the case with the Helios flight).

The theory that seemed most credible to me (for all that's worth, which isn't much) is that the pilot intentionally decompressed the plane so he'd have no opposition. I forget what he was thought to have done to the other pilot.

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Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

I wonder if any couple has gone for the, "First to have sex on Everest," and if so, how high up they managed. I mean, people have done it while skydiving, scuba diving... One of the most asked questions of astronauts is whether anyone has done it in space. Might as well go for that record if you're willing to risk losing your dong to frostbite.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

The Walrus posted:

its very not allowed because of sherpa religious beliefs apparently, but im sure it's been done. definitely at base camp, probably even higher.

You've got a point, the sherpa are universally respected and treated with deference.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Cojawfee posted:

or get gored by a bison because you were being an idiot.

I might have told this before, but when I was a kid we were visiting family in Montana. The local news was doing a story about a bison incident in Yellowstone. My aunt couldn't hear it well from the kitchen so she yelled out to her husband, "What happened?" He answered, "Another goddamned tourist tried to pet the buffalo."

Mr. Funny Pants fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Feb 9, 2021

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

gschmidl posted:

Locator Beacons are idiotically banned in some countries

Why?

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

There is no honor in requiring rescue.

I suppose Klingons don't use them either then.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Empty Sandwich posted:

as I say, it was Italy, so it might have been giardia de Laurentiis

Also known as boobonic plague.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

ante posted:

I still keep thinking about that guy earlier in the thread who was like, "Yeah, drop basically untrained randos in the woods with no food, sure. Don't even bother with a camera man, no problem. Three hours away from help, even if you're bleeding out? Totally reasonable. Bears? Oh poo poo, must be staged."


I can't wrap my head around that rationale, the best I can come up with is that, say, Floridans or Texans who have nothing like those animals have seen The Revenant one too many times, so they just assume all bears are murder machines.

When I was in high school, my family stayed in a little cabin clustered with maybe a dozen others in Sequoia National Park. I was inside when I heard a bunch of commotion and looked out the window. A black bear with what appeared to be 100 lbs. of electronic collars and such on its neck was waltzing through the camp. This called for the all too rare bravery one can only find in...

A 16 year old girl working there for the summer. Who ran it off by yelling at it and throwing rocks.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Outrail posted:

I live in grizzly territory and I've done a bunch of bear training and have run into one or two on the trails. And I know you're almost definitely safe camping as long as you take the right precautions. And I'll go hunting alone in certain circumstances.

But I can't make myself go camping alone, mostly because of my idiot brain thinking about trying to sleep in a tent among dem bears.

Yeah, I have to emphasize, we were in cabins and this was a black bear, and not even a particularly big one at that. The presence of the tracking collar likely indicated that he had already become used to people and was a "problem" bear. I think he had to have come around before, either that or that girl really did have balls. It was hilarious. The bear didn't scurry off like it was scared, it just sort of turned around and slowly loped off like, "Ok, I'm going, I'm going."

PostNouveau posted:

Highly recommend Grizzly Man if you haven't seen it.

Such a great movie. There's an infamous scene where Herzog listens on headphones to a recording of the fatal attack. Treadwell was always ready to record and someone, either him or his girlfriend turned on one of the video cameras but didn't take the lens cap off, so it recorded the audio only. After Herzog listens to it, he dramatically tells the woman who has it to never listen to it. Of course, this left viewers wanting to know what happened. Turns out she has let other people listen to it, including this guy, a grizzly expert who describes what you hear and speculates about what was happening:

http://www.yellowstone-bearman.com/Tim_Treadwell.html

As you might suspect, it's pretty goddamned awful.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001


I have to warn people, it's so much worse than I remembered.

Poor goddamned kayak. The horror...

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

The Walrus posted:

black bears are basically large raccoons.

but I mean, a raccoon could gently caress you up some if it wanted to.

Particularly if it's a 300 lb raccoon that apparently doesn't appreciate being photographed.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/hiker-took-photo-bear-it-killed-him-n257276

hemale in pain posted:

They were just so loving dumb i even find it kinda cruel people came and killed the bears afterwards but I guess you don't want bears out there which know people are a viable food source

Assuming the descriptions of the shootings are accurate, they didn't have much of a choice. But that points to Treadwell's ultimate failure, and one he had been warned about. His actions caused the death of those two bears.

Mr. Funny Pants fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Feb 19, 2021

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Outrail posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0AHvPpGrDU

Yeah this is pretty brutal and exactly what I'm afraid of. I know it's a remote possibility but gently caress.

Did she drop the bear spray a second time on the second attack?

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Caesar Saladin posted:

I heard that polar bears are some of the few animals who see humans and wanna eat them. Like, they kill us with the intent to actually eat all us instead of just protecting the cubs or just beating the poo poo out of us or whatever.

A show that I saw pointed out that polar bears, unlike brown bears, are built head to toe for killing. For example, their claws are designed for that purpose. A brown bears' claws are shaped better for digging; they work just fine against animals because they are huge and brown bears are insanely strong, but their shape isn't optimized for that.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001


The title of that video reminds me of a segment I saw on Nightline a bazillion years ago. It was about a guy in Alaska whose property had become a sort of crossroads for all types of wild bears. The two scenes that are burned into my mind were a huge brown bear approaching him as he stood on a sort of deck, the bear stood and started to get a bit pushy with the man and he loving slapped it. And the bear backed off. The other was a black bear that looked to be half the size of a brown bear flipping out on the brown bear...which backed off.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Outrail posted:

I heard a story about a guy who got taken by a polar bear in Alaska somewhere back in the 70's. His buddy saw the bear dragging him away by his head and managed to run up and jam a shotgun into its mouth around the guy's face and blew its head off. The guy survived with a hosed up skull.

Equal odds it's bullshit but the 70's were kinda wild apparently?

Did he yell, "Eat this!"

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

gschmidl posted:

e: and the number of Covid cases has gone up to "several".

I believe the official CDC conversion table is:

"One" = several
"Several" = a lot
"A lot" = pretty much everyone

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

PittTheElder posted:

Why did you go to Everest during the plague year?

"It was cheaper"

He was sick and continued for days until it got too severe. Knowing about the pandemic and therefore knowing he could be endangering those around him, he went on for days. And did he think he'd get better once he got to the mountain? Like Everest is a magic spring that makes you feel great and cures illness.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Arsenic Lupin posted:

Much to everyone's surprise, there's a COVID outbreak at Base Camp and the Nepal government is covering it up.

The mountain looks down and says, "Hey guys, keep it up, this is fun to watch."

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Pure speculation, but I'm curious what you all think. Let's say an earthquake or a crazed poster from this forum knocks off enough of the summit to put it below K2 in height. How much do you think climbing would decline there?

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

https://twitter.com/tammygolden/status/1436341568168808453?s=20

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Oracle posted:

Yeah, noooope nope nope. Had to turn it off. Oof.

His overall body strength and stamina have to be off the charts. What a freak.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

PostNouveau posted:

Goon-adjacent podcast Well There's Your Problem did an episode on people dying in caves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUJKRVu6IVA

Cave disasters discussion starts around 35:00

There is literally no horror movie scenario I've seen that is more disturbing and upsetting to me than the Nutty Putty accident. When you put all of it together, what the victim went through, his family... Jesus loving Christ.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Is there a new thread? All kinds of Everest news hitting.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Brit breaks own record for non-Nepali summits
https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/british-climber-summits-mt-everest-for-record-16-times/ar-AAXjDP5?ocid=BingNewsSearch

First all-Black climbing team summits Mount Everest
https://news.yahoo.com/first-black-climbing-team-summits-163344096.html

Who is Lucy Westlake? Young Woman Sets Record for Climbing Mount Everest
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/who-is-lucy-westlake-young-woman-sets-record-for-climbing-mount-everest/ar-AAXeJPL?ocid=BingNewsSearch

Sherpa woman breaks own record for climbs up Mount Everest, reaches peak for 10th time
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/05/12/mount-everest-sherpa-woman-record/9749065002/

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Nice Tuckpointing! posted:

"Before Full Circle, only 10 Black climbers were among the nearly 6,000 summits of Everest completed across approximately 60 years, a disparity the group deliberately set out to address through their latest ascent, per the outlet."

Holy poo poo. I would have guessed a low number, but 10!?

Given how many cops have made the climb...

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Have we ever discussed the apparently rampant rumor that the Chinese found Irving's body and his camera in 1975? The story goes that they buried the body on the mountain and attempted to develop the film but it didn't turn out. One rumor even said that they still have the camera on display in a local museum somewhere. I haven't read this guy's Salon article so I can't vouch for his credibility or that of his sources, but here's a fairly in depth interview about what he found.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glMT08zmAP0

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Just as less technological cultures are often not credited for their intelligence (gently caress you ancient alien assholes), I also wouldn't assume that they couldn't be as stupid as we are. Over thousands of years, there had to be the occasional black sheep dipshit of the tribe who thought climbing that thing seemed like a good idea.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

ante posted:

It wouldn't be one dipshit just deciding to climb Everest, though. It takes a community.

My point wasn't so much that it was doable but to counter the idea that no one would even think about it, that the culture would with flawless efficiency stamp out any desire to get to the top of the tallest landmark.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

honda whisperer posted:

I can see that.

Is the other option steroids and well just a little turns into a dark path?

Steroids are one of the reasons you feel unbeatable and awesome when you are young.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

What would happen to the Everest industry if some ridiculously rich dude showed up and paid all the Sherpa huge salaries far beyond anything they could make climbing to not climb and live safe lives? I wonder what percentage do it strictly out of economic need and how many do it because they want to. I'd like to see the reaction of the fucks who run the mountaineering companies and pay them poo poo.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

theflyingexecutive posted:

People who are ridiculously rich don't care about other people's lives though?

Thanks.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

I wonder if anyone has tried weaving thin, flexible solar panels into their outerwear to charge small batteries to heat the inside of their suits. For that matter I wonder if any of that is even possible or practical yet.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

ante posted:

No.


Or, at least, solar panels won't do anything. Sun directly heating you is 100% efficient already. Batteries that are just big enough to heat you for a couple days probably already exist. But I don't think heating is much of an issue. Those huge survival suits seem to be fine, as long as you don't try to sleep out in the open.

Even with the suits and direct sun, don't we still hear about frostbite even to covered parts of the body?

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Ohtori Akio posted:

loling a little at the idea that altitude is no big deal until youre at himalayan type of elevations

I've mentioned it in one of the Everest threads but I had a friend who was young and in good shape who was hiking somewhere in California not high at all, obviously well below 10,000 feet and had to be evacuated by helicopter due to altitude sickness. He said he felt worse than he imagined he could ever feel, like walking death.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Cojawfee posted:

"First asian with a pacemaker" wtf. We were just joking with the first polish American with ADHD to climb everest with a copy of MacGruber stuff.

Beat me to it, this is totally a joke sounding, "First," good god. Or it was.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

I know I've suggested it before and the Sherpas would lose their poo poo, but I'm still waiting for a couple of assholes to be the first to gently caress on the summit. Hell, I'm surprised Youporn or someone hasn't sponsored it.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

Paladine_PSoT posted:

When I finally got internet access on my phone in one of the towns, freaking Tinder started lighting up. Based on the distance, there was a party going on at base camp.

I'd guess it will happen sooner than later, and it will open a whole slew of new records. First summit penetration, first summit orgasm, first summit orgasm without supplemental oxygen, first summit female orgasm, first child conceived at the summit without supplemental oxygen, first winter summit gangbang with greater than 7 participants...

Imagine the somber PBS documentary about all the climbers indifferently walking past a couple begging for help because they've become frozen together mid-screw in an attempt to become the first to pull off reverse-cowgirl in the death zone.

Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

PurpleXVI posted:

:psyduck:

That is one hell of a wikipedia article.

Oh no.

quote:

A 32-year-old woman from North Carolina died after her vehicle crossed the center median on Interstate 85 in the Greensboro-Winston-Salem area, upon which it collided with a recycling truck, left the road, hit a tree, and burst into flames – moments after posting selfies online when she heard Pharrell Williams's song "Happy" playing on radio station WKZL inside her car.

Edit:
Still reading through this article and it's apparent that Trains and electricity have been waiting a long time for selfies to come along so they could team up to kill as many people as possible. Not that trains haven't been monstrous mass-killers before, but since things are a good deal safer than during their salad days as murderers, selfies have given them a fresh lease on death.

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Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

blight rhino posted:

BASICALLY, should I bet on the Denver Nuggets to win the finals in the NBA?

Probably, but not because of the altitude. They're just playing better than anyone right now. They've never won a title before, so I don't think the altitude is a gigantic advantage.

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Mr. Funny Pants
Apr 9, 2001

CubicalSucrose posted:

Wait is this text message comms thing real? It's hard to tell.

Yes. They can't get regular radio signals in deep water, what they can receive is very rudimentary and capable of transmitting very tiny amounts of data. Obviously, they aren't tethered to a mother ship, so no hard line either. So that's how subs get to the wreck.

Outrail posted:

You'd think they'd have some kind of self inflating balloon type 'Ah gently caress gfto' device strapped onto the sub.

I saw an interview with the CBS reporter who went on a dive in the sub last year and he said they have seven methods of surfacing, both automatic and manual, so they've got redundancies piled on redundancies for that at least. There's basically three options:

*Imploded
*Got tangled in a fishing net or Titanic wreckage
*Surfaced and haven't been spotted

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