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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Amy Pole Her posted:

Apparently zero shot Miami gets Watson

https://phinphanatic.com/2021/01/14/deshaun-watson-will-not-be-a-miami-dolphins-quarterback-next-season/ If Dolphins fans' reasoning for why there's no chance they get him is really "cap is definitely real (ignore how it hasn't stopped the Saints for the last decade)" and "they gave Tua a pinky promise", :lmao: there's absolutely a chance they get him

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012



Assumed this was the case the moment it came out he apologized to Deshaun for his time being wasted

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1350873520318898176?s=19
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1350877652291383300?s=19

Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jan 17, 2021

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Texans the rare team that can lose a terrible owner and the replacement winds up even worse

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


HappyHippo posted:

so are the texans really going to lose hopkins, watt and waston in a one year span?

Yep

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1353397824654868481

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


General Dog posted:

I say they just hold onto Watson this year and see what happens. If he wants to sit, let him sit.

If you're the Texans:
If you want to replace him, you have to get rid of him. The top teams that want him are the top teams in the draft, and you'll at least be able to move on immediately with the assets you get
If you don't move him, you have no first Or second rounders this year and you have no QB because he Will sit, McCown is likely transitioning to the coaching staff, and McCarron is a free agent

You have no leverage in this situation

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/BrettKollmann/status/1355004926519218177?s=09

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


ItohRespectArmy posted:

i chose the lions, OP.

Parallelwoody posted:

I think that makes it worse.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Sataere posted:

Texans fans understand that hope is a lie

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Declan MacManus posted:

if it was older it might be real but it’s two days after he got hired as texans gm, it’s responding to stuff like that easterby video rather than focusing on stuff that’s critical of caserio and the texans specifically, and above and beyond anything else, it hasn’t been deleted yet despite being called out as a burner

Of course he still has the account

If he caves on this he thinks it’ll be obvious they’re caving on Deshaun being done with them

(He’s done with them anyway, they’ll cave and it’s already obvious)

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


I’d retire rather than play another snap for them

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/robertmays/status/1358465540889714703?s=19

edit:

fast cars loose anus posted:

at this point Im going to be deeply furious if they DON'T trade JJ somewhere he has a shot at a ring

There's some sense in keeping a young franchise QB around and trying to get him to play for you but Watt has played his rear end off for us for years and is at the end of his career let the man go

He has one more year left on his deal, I honestly think they'll just release him

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


ItohRespectArmy posted:

so glad I chose the smart and stable franchise of the detroit lions to not go through such embrassment.

If the Texans make Deshaun retire at 25, that's significantly more of a fuckup than the Lions breaking down Megatron by 30

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


fast cars loose anus posted:

This is karma for all the times I said to myself, in my head, "well at least I'm not a fan of <insert any of a few teams across several sports here but think Lions or Mets for some good examples>"

now that's us

yay

I feel bad for that fan earlier (maybe it was in another thread) who said they just want this saga to be over already

Forgetting the fact that when you're a fan of a team that gets in a stupid reckless period of time like this, it's at best a decade before the team actually recovers from it

We just had like three years where everyone wanted BOB gone, ending with him being gone, and someone Worse immediately taking his place. If this thing has a rock bottom, it's not being hit for a while

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Chris James 2 posted:

He has one more year left on his deal, I honestly think they'll just release him

Yep

Felt inevitable after that audio came out where he apologized to Deshaun for the team wasting his time. You don’t go back from feeling that way; If he hadn’t been cut or traded, he would have sat

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1360275258763313155

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Idk why anyone would even make that assumption at the time he's picking a fight with the best QB they ever had And just mercy-fired the best defensive player they ever had

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


fsif posted:

Anyway, my favorite part of the article were the bullet points that showed why the trade was Good, Actually.

And then immediately went back on one of the most significant justifying bullet points they provided

quote:

As for that “very valuable” second-round pick the Texans acquired in the Hopkins trade: The team didn’t use it to dip into a deep pool of receivers. With Notre Dame receiver Chase Claypool still on the board, as well as defensive rookie of the year candidate Antoine Winfield Jr., the Texans picked Ross Blacklock, a defensive lineman from TCU who played just 23 percent of the defense’s snaps.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012



:laffo:

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/DanGrazianoESPN/status/1365029931055464461?s=20

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Intruder posted:

The Texans ruining their relationship with Watson for a guy who immediately wants out would be the icing on the cake

The only way this saga could have gotten any funnier, so it's the only way it'll end

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Ches Neckbeard posted:

So what else makes this lawyer a local poo poo head? Other than having enough money to be neighbors with a billionaire.

https://twitter.com/undisputed/status/905114564391452672

Also ran against the mayor and his campaign consisted of racism and transphobia https://www.equalitytexas.org/for-i...on-mayors-race/

Also got a DWI, for which he was sentenced to 12 months probation by the DA; he got off four months early and financially contributed to the DA's campaign like a year earlier https://www.abqjournal.com/914269/lawyers-group-questions-houston-attorneys-dwi-dismissal.html

Also despite being a lawyer this is the only case he's posted about of his on social media

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Strobe posted:

And as a general I Am Not A Lawyer thing, why is this in civil court instead of the accusers pressing charges? Damages?

In addition to that, if you have evidence on your side it's easier to win than it would be in a criminal case with charges against the accused; with that, you'd have to prove the person's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, whereas in civil court you just need to prove it's more likely than not the person's guilty

This is why it's pretty assumed if the first masseuse/victim has those texts, it's game over for his defense case argument that she's a complete liar and he has nothing to hide

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/aaronwilson_nfl/status/1372628399844438017?s=21

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


fast cars loose anus posted:

The second we were 24-0 against the Chiefs will probably represent the high point of this franchise until the 2030s

Just in time for the stadium lease to come up!

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


He won’t be out of the league but he should be

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

When 13 separate women come out within around 36 hours of each other that’s probably a bad sign but hey I’m no criminal attorney.

mcmagic and three other trolls rush in: “but the lawyer’s bad! (please ignore all other lawyers who are all also bad, including Deshaun’s lawyer who argued Adrian Peterson didn’t abuse his kid when beating the utter poo poo out of him)”

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Ostentatious posted:

loving believe women lmfao how loving hard is it to understand

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


At least 22 total accusers willing to file now https://twitter.com/aaronwilson_nfl/status/1372996061447458816?s=21

Absolutely horrifying

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Phobeste posted:

Huh, good on that guy I guess? Or is he saying that she was referred to watson by his coach? Is that Tim Kelly?

The tweet was badly worded but the audio's there, the coach liked his massage from one of the women and referred Deshaun to her

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012



He deleted it moments ago

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


BrownThunder posted:

There isn't some big brain conspiracy, he's just a piece of poo poo

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://twitter.com/deshaunwatson/status/77570098726051840?s=19

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


4th-7th lawsuits got entered into the Harris County portal https://imgur.com/a/OIdgctz https://imgur.com/a/N6pahGu https://imgur.com/a/Y674vJ2 https://imgur.com/a/QBz6KbJ

:nws:

Lawsuit 6, June '20 posted:

Woman is a licensed massage therapist, owns her own business, markets through Instagram, in business for 11 years. Deshaun DMs woman and they speak on phone, “Watson told Plaintiff: ‘I make a lot of massage therapists uncomfortable and it’s really hard for me to find someone who will meet my needs…’”. Unlike the other women so far, this woman in #6 routinely provides massage therapy to athletes from professional football teams and other high-profile athletes. At a spa in Houston: “[Watson] refused Plaintiff’s attempts to cover him. Even when she covered his buttocks, he would purposely move to knock the towel off…As the session continued, Watson exposed his penis to Plaintiff several times. Watson laughingly told Plaintiff that she could move his penis out of the way….Plaintiff felt trapped, angry and dirty…Watson eventually had an erection. Multiple times he moved his body in such a way to make his penis touch Plaintiff…Watson continued to contact Plaintiff afterwards around seven more times to schedule another massage. Plaintiff either declined or ignored his requests and never worked with him again”

Lawsuit 7, Sept '20 posted:

Woman owns a fitness company offering body conditioning, markets through Instagram, in business three years. “Watson asked Plaintiff if he could be naked, and even asked Plaintiff if it was okay if he got aroused. Plaintiff told Watson to cover himself while she attempted to stay professional and finish the session. At some point during the session, Watson became aroused and got an erection. Watson continued to move his body in a way that would repeatedly cause his penis to touch Plaintiff’s hand. Plaintiff was shocked and moved away from him. Lying on the table on his back, Watson then ejaculated. Plaintiff immediately stopped the session and left the room”


:nws:

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

No but Tom Clancy owning an NFL team had the potential to be pretty funny.

I’d prefer it over the still-present possibility Bezos gets one

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Shimrra Jamaane posted:

How did this lawyer of all people come into this?

The first victim contacted him. Seeing someone willing to tell their story about someone who also treated others badly has the effect of making others more comfortable telling their story, we saw the same thing with Darren Sharper and Bill Cosby; seeing him do it made them comfortable coming to him over others because others might not be as willing to listen, or might be tempted to pursue their own agenda like trying to convince them to file a class action/grouped lawsuit which could have less chance of success

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012



Considering the very first thing people were saying when this broke was about how this must have been fake because why would Deshaun go on Insta for this, this uhhhhhh is very not good

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/21/lawyer-will-request-a-grand-jury-to-consider-criminal-charges-against-deshaun-watson/

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


fartknocker posted:

I suspect the sports media is waiting for actual charges to be filed or for something more than social media stuff from Buzbee before they give this more coverage. I think as soon as that happens, ESPN, NFL Network, all the other places and whatnot will start treating it seriously.

Deshaun's supposed to give his statement this week, that might do it

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