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It's been nearly a year since the Labour leadership election, so here's a good counterfactual: what if Kieth was honest and actually set out to do all of the things he pledged when he became leader? Would Labour be 20 points ahead today? e: 168 = January 1968: Harold Wilson does an early flag-shagging neoliberalism. It doesn't help him in the polls. Venomous fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Ms Adequate posted:nothing good is ever going to happen, the world is going to mostly die and a few lucky ones will be enserfed to maintain the billionaire compounds, all that remains is to laugh at the maximum chaos that occurs on the way to oblivion. Solidarity fist bump.
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Mar 31, 2021 11:18
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TACD posted:Do you have any anti-despair pointers because I think I might be in too deep at this point I mean, yes, it's "go to therapy" Choosing not to give in to despair and choosing to feel and try to embody revolutionary hope isn't a rational decision, so I can't give you, like, a logical argument as to why or how to do it. It's a case of finding or creating or reclaiming your own self and strength regardless of external events. Super unironically I found this post incredibly helpful. Some of it may not make much sense if you've not played the game, but the gist of it is relevant to all defeated-feeling, broke-brained communists like us https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3899418&pagenumber=226&perpage=40#post501553265
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Mar 31, 2021 11:22
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Venomous posted:It's been nearly a year since the Labour leadership election, so here's a good counterfactual: what if Kieth was honest and actually set out to do all of the things he pledged when he became leader? Would Labour be 20 points ahead today? No because the press and the Labour right would have butchered him and Keith is actually terrible at politics.
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Mar 31, 2021 11:31
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Barry Foster posted:I mean, yes, it's "go to therapy"  Most of the progress I've made can be attributed to reading Albert Camus and the concept of the Absurd, of learning to live with despair and gaining control over it. The rest I've managed through meditation, which might not work for everyone but has helped carry on those same arguments to convince my body and irrational mind not to freak out.
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Mar 31, 2021 11:34
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Borrovan posted:The state producing a report on whether it is institutionally racist is really one of those "would you tell me if you were lying" questions. Only a state that wasn't institutionally racist would admit to institutional racism. The report is literally evidence of institutional racism in itself. My report declaring myself not a racist is raising a lot questions answered by my report
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Venomous posted:what if Kieth was honest and actually set out to do all of the things he pledged when he became leader? Would Labour be 20 points ahead today? Probably not. Might not be 10 behind though.
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Gonzo McFee posted:No because the press and the Labour right would have butchered him and Keith is actually terrible at politics. Tbf the plausibility of that counterfactual does rely on Kieth in that alternate timeline being good at politics, so you have an incredibly valid point there
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incredible how we went from one of the major political parties planning pogroms to perfect racial harmony in just 15 months, what a miraculous land this is edit turns out it was just that one guy who was institutionally racist all on his own, what a rotter
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Mar 31, 2021 11:44
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biglads posted:We are heading towards Full Yugoslavia, brb gonna learn the accordion. At least we might finally get some Workers' and Peasants' Militias, is there anyone who'll sell us a few cases of Mosin-Nagants for cheap?
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Mar 31, 2021 11:48
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[quote="CoolCab" post=""513629347"] well, which is it. I can't be both a British nationalist while calling (eagerly and with passion) for the destruction of the British state. my active apathy can't be antipathy one moment, secret fascination another and then both apathy and antipathy at once somehow. [/quote] Let’s go the full Godwin. I honestly think you would benefit from reading and digesting this piece of liberalism: https://www.libraryofsocialscience.com/essays/demopoulos-gotterdammerung/ If you have an emotional relation with the concept of a nation that causes you to even joke about genocide, let alone contemplate it, then you are a nationalist. By analogy, family annihilation is a form of murder grounded in a patriarchical nuclear family system. Someone who does that is not rejecting that idea, they are demonstrating how seriously they take it.
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Barry Foster posted:I mean, yes, it's "go to therapy" Sadly a luxury not afforded to most people in this country.
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Mar 31, 2021 12:06
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Gonzo McFee posted:No because the press and the Labour right would have butchered him and Keith is actually terrible at politics. I was going to say, we currently live in a world where Rachel Reeves is angling to usurp Anneliese Dodds because she's too left wing lol
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Mar 31, 2021 12:14
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Barry Foster posted:Super unironically I found this post incredibly helpful. Some of it may not make much sense if you've not played the game, but the gist of it is relevant to all defeated-feeling, broke-brained communists like us I'm glad therapy is working for you, it seemed like you were in a pretty bad place a while back. Therapy is a hell of a drug. Unfortunately it can be hard to see that moment of revelation if you're not there. Ages ago one of my wife's friends shared a 'motivational' video by some YouTuber, Prince Ea. He was ranting about how he truly believes that everyone can just 'choose' one day to just get up and start fighting. And it's very easy for people like him to say that, when they are in a position where their biology isn't letting them down, when they're not physically and mentally exhausted, when they have a non abusive / demotivating support network, when they have a decent income, or in the case of a lot of YouTube motivators like the geordie personal trainer my sister in law listens to, are coked up to the loving eyeballs. When that motivation is precisely what someone is lacking, it really feels like telling someone trapped under rubble to 'just pull themselves out.' Good therapy is a process of slowly unravelling destructive behaviours and can slowly, over time, help restore good routines and mental health practices. But it can only do that carefully and slowly. Which is why it sucks that government policy runs completely contrary to this and says that if someone is not working, you give them a boot up the arse and if they stay down you keep kicking them until they move or 'stop being a statistic' as a euphamism for death.
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Mar 31, 2021 12:19
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https://twitter.com/aarjanistan/status/1377214384339050506?s=19 Just say uppity.
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I suppose the ultimate question is why to chose the healthy option. That and, ultimately, how can we make ourselves better people, even if we hate ourselves.
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Mar 31, 2021 12:52
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Lifehack: write your overtly racist statement then go back and add "culture" in somewhere at random then it's fine.
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Mar 31, 2021 12:53
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Barry Foster posted:I mean, yes, it's "go to therapy" I also feel like the therapists I’ve seen end up getting annoyed with me because I’m not seeing the point they’re trying to obliquely make instead of just saying outright It is a good post though 
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Mar 31, 2021 12:56
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/aarjanistan/status/1377214384339050506?s=19 Did you ever consider that your racist oppression is your own fault? 
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https://twitter.com/AyshahTull/status/1377213602407518210?s=19 Have you ever considered that it's all your fault?
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the kids are, in fact, alright https://twitter.com/SouthwarkNotes/status/1377216770612854784
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forkboy84 posted:Sadly a luxury not afforded to most people in this country. Bobby Deluxe posted:drat, that is a top tier post. I 100% agree with you both, to be clear, and I'm really, genuinely sorry if my post came off as glib. MH provision in this country is utterly atrocious and we live in a society fundamentally hostile to human flourishing and designed to elicit despair. I know that bootstraps is never going to be the answer. TACD posted:I’ve tried a few different therapists before and it seems like the field is just not geared to provide what I need – if I’m going to therapy it’s because I need advice on how to deal with my situation / issues, and therapy just asks me to think about things in a different way when thinking about these things inside and out is all I’ve been doing and is why I’m all hosed up lol CBT or DBT seems more helpful for you, maybe? I'm the opposite, I didn't/don't need practical advice on what to do and how to deal, so the constant rounds of NHS CBT was more or less useless to me, which is why I'm blowing the last of my savings on an actual talk therapist. Turns out I needed to work out some pretty heavy stuff from my past, but it all seems to be different strokes. EDIT oh and I'm not kidding, Disco Elysium was literally therapy for me, and I highly recommend it if you're a) a burnout practicing empty hedonism in the face of genuine, gaping loss, b) a communist who has been crushed by recent events into absolute despair, or c) all of the above + you have terrible/awesome dress sense Barry Foster fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Josef bugman posted:I suppose the ultimate question is why to chose the healthy option. That and, ultimately, how can we make ourselves better people, even if we hate ourselves. You can't really make yourself a genuinely better person if you hate yourself, bman, as I am finally discovering after twenty years of loving loathing myself And if you're asking why to choose good over bad, then I guess my response to that would be what is it that makes you ask that question in the first place?
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peanut- posted:Lifehack: write your overtly racist statement then go back and add "culture" in somewhere at random then it's fine.  mrpwase posted:Most of the progress I've made can be attributed to reading Albert Camus and the concept of the Absurd  Each atom of that stone, each mineral flake of that night-filled mountain, in itself forms a world. The struggle itself toward the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Piers Morgan a miserable oval office who just shits on everyone else instead of achieving any personal progress and in the process becomes more embittered. The anti-Camus.
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i think that's super that the country has tested negatiive for racism, today is a great day 
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feedmegin posted:At least we might finally get some Workers' and Peasants' Militias, is there anyone who'll sell us a few cases of Mosin-Nagants for cheap? I hope so, the road to full Yugoslavia has a start which sadly includes the police & army handing out assault weapons to the gammons.
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Guavanaut posted:
At every stage of his life the descent of Piers Morgan has been like watching someone scrape through the bottom of barrels of human dignity, as he's gone from hover-handing celebrity "pals", to popularising fabricated war crimes, to becoming a fountain of gleefully ignorant bile, all while slowly morphing physically into the dark universe Keith Chegwin.
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I'd agree with that. The Myth of Sisyphus was probably the work of philosophy that had the most direct impact on me. Which isn't to say I'm not prone to despair now & again because my brain chemistry is borked but it helps somewhat.
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Britain is not institutionally racist and the prime minister believes that Jews control the world's media.
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Comrade Fakename posted:Britain is not institutionally racist and the prime minister believes that Jews control the world's media.
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I wouldn't expect anything else from the Tories self commissioned report into racism but if anyone is having an argument with someone about it, I'd point out the government only accepts reports it already agrees with - it's rejected UN investigations on housing and disability in the UK in the last few years so they really aren't looking to actually respond or improve to actual criticisms.
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Barry Foster posted:You can't really make yourself a genuinely better person if you hate yourself, bman, as I am finally discovering after twenty years of loving loathing myself To know what good and bad are and then to act upon that knowledge. How can we know what the healthy option is as it were.
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Completely idiotic jam socialism update https://twitter.com/kellymakena/status/1377238111713902595?s=20 (Obviously this is America so it will result in $100bn being given to AT&T and Comcast and 3 extra people getting internet, but still)
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https://twitter.com/peachlux_/status/1377228231330430978?s=19 More than racism, the problem for black men is that they're gay pussies.
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peanut- posted:Completely idiotic jam socialism update Background here on the truth of that last statement, if anyone wants a groanlaugh that's directed at another country for a change https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/03/att-lobbies-against-nationwide-fiber-says-10mbps-uploads-are-good-enough/ quote:AT&T is lobbying against proposals to subsidize fiber-to-the-home deployment across the US, arguing that rural people don't need fiber and should be satisfied with Internet service that provides only 10Mbps upload speeds.
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Gonzo McFee posted:More than racism, the problem for black men is that they're gay pussies. Tony Sewell posted:We heteros are sick and tired of tortured queens playing hide and seek around their closets. Homosexuals are the greatest queer-bashers around. No other group of people are so preoccupied with making their own sexuality look dirty.
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Josef bugman posted:To know what good and bad are and then to act upon that knowledge. By your own logic why want to know in the first place? Why choose health over sickness?
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Not UK but any day soon it might be: Testimony from off-duty firefighter at trial of Derek Chauvin for murder of George Floyd. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/genevieve-hansen-george-floyd-firefighter-b1824677.html quote:Derek Chauvin trial: Off-duty firefighter called 911 when police refused to let her treat George Floyd Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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Barry Foster posted:By your own logic why want to know in the first place? Why choose health over sickness? I suppose you could say its out of the desire to understand "stuff" in general? The idea of what constitutes healthy and sickness that can be applied both universally and particularly. I suppose that, if one were to drill down deeply enough it becomes "to find meaning".
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The racism report is more mixed than you might think - I've just been browsing through it - and while it's a bit scattershot and platitudinous, a lot of its recommendations are pretty unobjectionable. It is very clearly written by conservatives who view the BLM movement with a mixture of suspicion and alarm - some of the comments in the report that read rather like low-level trolling are perhaps down to this. When they say stuff like:quote:The ‘Making of Modern Britain’ teaching resource is our response to negative calls for ‘decolonising’ the curriculum. Neither the banning of White authors or token expressions of Black achievement will help to broaden young minds. I think this is more down to the authors not understanding this viewpoint and not bothering to try than it being a deliberate wind-up, for example.* It's conservative authors writing a conservative report, with unsurprisingly conservative conclusions but I don't think it's some deliberate whitewash. I do expect the government to brandish it as proof that racism is over in this country, while never bothering to implement any of the reasonably ok stuff that the report recommends. *I've not poked around in the backgrounds of any of the authors; if it turns out they are habitual contrarians, then ignore everything I've said above.
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