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Apr 25, 2006

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I'm going to the gym today to work out for the first time in a year+. It's just the tiny gym at my apartment complex, and it'll just be me and my girlfriend and we'll probably wipe down the stuff we use first. Still, pretty pumped.

The pool is open now too which is good since it's getting hot as dick

boar guy posted:

are buffets allowed to operate rn? they aren't where i live

Vegas just reopened self-serve buffets and it probably has more of those than anywhere else. I don't see myself using one of those for a long time though if ever.

My work is having a big conference relatively soon and I'm kinda worried since people will be coming from all over abs there are pretty much guaranteed to be some anti - vaxxers and anti - mask chuds there.

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Apr 25, 2006

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learnincurve posted:

Yeh everyone’s going to get a booster along with the flu shot, and masks on public transport is never going away.

One thing we learned is that people in the U.K. are filthy buggers, and if we had done basic hygiene before this then most of those flu deaths were preventable as well.

Someone posted some survey result the other day that suggested that 38% of Brits only wash their bedsheets once in an entire YEAR.. that's not possible, right??

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Apr 25, 2006

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I never cleaned any groceries or anything like that. Really kept it pretty chill for the most part, just stayed far far away from people who weren't my girlfriend or my dog. Which haa proven to be the most important thing in avoiding covid.

Got furloughed for six months, which was frankly awesome, spent moyai of that time up in the mountains or at the beach. Being brought back to work was kind of a huge bummer if I'm being honest.

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Apr 25, 2006

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learnincurve posted:

I had the “honour” of being one of the reported cases on the news back when every new case was newsworthy. Some dickhead took their daughter Skiing in Italy and then the family fled back to the U.K. when there was a outbreak at the resort, the kid then sat next to my daughter in class. Her school thought it was just “the sickness bug” going round the class like wildfire, till a kid with lung issues landed in hospital and got tested.


I then caught it again 6 months later in a supermarket disabled toilet, and the Oxford people came and took my blood because re-infection wasn’t a known thing at that point.

Christ man, leave some covid for the rest of us, would you?

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Apr 25, 2006

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Strawberry Pyramid posted:

Every single person I know who's been vaccinated has had side effects. A few even told me if they knew beforehand "they never would have gotten the drat thing" and cancelled their second appointments.

drat, you know a lot of cowards/idiots!

I mean I realize some effects are worse than others but there's no way it's worse than the alternative. I've hosed myself up on bad batches of e way worse than the vaccines could ever do, and having some flu symptoms for a day or two is not that bad if you've ever been sick before in your life.

I'm not dragging you, to be clear, people skipping their second shots because they're pansies just pisses me off.

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Apr 25, 2006

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You'd think that, due to each jab being exactly the same, the FIRST one where you don't already have a potent immune response would be worse. That's probably a total misunderstanding of the science though

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Apr 25, 2006

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I don't think we'll ever be able to truly forget how much spittle and associated juices from the people around us that we are sucking down at all times

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Apr 25, 2006

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Also pre-emptively taking off the day isn't a horrible idea in expectation of side effects.

If I had known that was a thing I definitely would've taken that day off; I did take a few hours off the day after for both shots.

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Apr 25, 2006

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I think that is more of a work-related grievance rather than a taking time off for the vaccine grievance, let's not get the pitchforks out okay

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Apr 25, 2006

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Like a chump, I got vaccinated WITHOUT getting a free burg or an ll bean gift card

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Apr 25, 2006

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I feel like the only way to prevent this would've been an abrupt and complete lockdown of the original infected area, and of course that would only work with dictatorial powers AND the ability to identify the new virus quickly. Literally setting up a cordon and no one inside can leave or even get close to the cordon. That area would then need to continue to be locked down indefinitely until the virus has nowhere to spread to and dies out, or a vaccine was developed.

And of course if any virus escaped, wherever it escaped to would need to be locked down completely, and so on and so on. Difficult thing to do when people are moving around the globe 24/7.

A legitimate criticism of China is that they acted way too late. They wanted to ignore the problem and hope it wouldn't be a big deal. Eventually they had lockdowns over the whole country, when at the very start they could've locked down a single area totally and completely and saved everyone a lot of trouble.

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Apr 25, 2006

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empty whippet box posted:

new design just dropped

https://thehotbuttonissue.com/product/vaxxedandready/

please buy some buttons so i can afford a camera to take better pictures than this.



Pretty rad but not sure my girlfriend or my boss would approve

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Apr 25, 2006

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Majority of Las Vegas casinos now have their gaming floors open at 100% capacity. Doesn't seem like a great idea to me :shrug:

Love that Ohio scheme. I'm guessing that the people who love lotteries are also often the same people who don't want to get vaccinated. More states should try that.

Also like the idea to tie masking regulations to overall vaccination rates.

I think not wearing masks outside, while still social distancing with strangers, is totally fine and even overdue. The true danger is indoors and large outdoor crowds.

Not wearing masks inside is insane at this point I think, regardless of vaccination status because as has been mentioned people will just lie and put themselves and others at risk

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Apr 25, 2006

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mikemil828 posted:

It might actually work, republicans become 18% more eager to get the vaccine if it means they no longer have to mask or socially distance.

https://twitter.com/CaulfieldTim/status/1392800732991033347

Don't see how this would work without the enforcement side of things. They can already not wear masks and if asked just claim they are vaccinated. So they are gaining nothing, from their perspective

boar guy posted:

california pro sports stadiums are trying to shame people into getting vaccinated by opening up seating if you're vaccinated and making you sit in socially distanced pods in the 2 sections out of 100 they reserve for non-vaccinated fans if you're not

nice idea except they should just deny them entry instead of giving them their own VIP section

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Apr 25, 2006

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boar guy posted:

you are under no obligation to rush back out. this guidance is largely (in my estimation) geared towards incentivizing people to get the shot than anything

I'm just afraid it's going to have precisely the opposite effect of what they intend here.

Cthulu Carl posted:

Lifting restrictions is either a good idea or a very bad one, but gently caress it, I'll be on the side of "This is good, but lol if you think I'll take my mask off around randos hacking and wheezing and sneezing and mining for nose gold just yet."

Yeah that's where I'm at pretty much. I've already had my mask off almost 100% when I'm outside, at home, or sitting at my desk in its own office. But directly next to strangers is just a bridge too far right now. Luckily that is only like 5% of the day at the very maximum

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Apr 25, 2006

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Ugly In The Morning posted:

They routinely test sports teams so you’re going to see a higher rate of asymptomatic vaccinated positives there, or anywhere else where routine tests are common. It’s not unexpected and it doesn’t mean the vaccines aren’t doing what they’re supposed to do. Even a small viral load will come up positive there, it’s why recovered, noncontangious people can test positive for up to a month after they had it.

What it seems to indicate (to me at least, I'm kind of an idiot) is that there are a lot more asymptomatic cases among the vaccinated than we will ever know because they have a much, much higher chance to be asymptomatic than an unvaccinated person. They are finding them in places like sports where they are tested frequently but not among the general population because they have no reason to get tested. Whether they are actually contagious or not I have no idea.

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Apr 25, 2006

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Woof Blitzer posted:

I’m still wearing my mask. gently caress em. Thug life

I'm probably gonna keep a mask in the car from now on regardless. Never know when it might be a good idea to cover your face, for all kinds of reasons.

Spinz posted:

Here's the thing is that you're doing it outside of bars and so people have alcohol in them

That makes this genuinely dangerous plus if you really want to know I'm afraid you need to get people one-on-one

Oh come on as long as you are relatively polite and not harassing people I'm sure you can get away with it. Hopefully that goon has a modicum of social skills, and yes I'm aware that's an oxymoron

sharknado slashfic posted:

I'll help you out here, all of them are fully vaccinated with the J+J vaccine

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/yankees-covid-gleyber-torres-8-positive/

Yeah I had to assume they were since the team would be able to basically force the people who work there to get a vaccine. Those are pretty crazy numbers though, I mean an 8 person outbreak on a baseball team sounds like something that would've happened BEFORE the vaccine.

Granted, none of them felt anything which is great. Only thing I'm curious about is if they were contagious at any point in time or if it was a miniscule among of viral particles that realistically couldn't infect an unvaccinated person. That's the main thing that gives me hesitancy, I don't ever want to have covid since I'm not sure of the quality of my lungs and also I don't want to pass it to anyone, including unvaccinated children

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Apr 25, 2006

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Big Bizness posted:

I've gone 25 days after Pfzier shot 2 without any alcohol, Tylenol, weed, or any chemicals other then my inhaler, caffeine and creatine to maximize my immune response. Can I safely get trashed now??

Why did you even do that

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

Also I brought my kids to the park today and they were the only ones with masks. Out of about 10 kids and four adults. This got me assuming everyone was saying gently caress it to the masks but like an hour later I went food shopping and not a single person didn't have a mask on so my neighborhood is a land of contrasts.

Grocery stores are still requiring masks and the park is outside so that kinda makes sense?

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Apr 25, 2006

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For the record almost none of the arm pain from the injection is from the needle or the muscle fibers parting, as it is such a small needle injection in terms of contents and the needle used. It's pretty much all from your tissue responding to the vaccine itself

Guy Axlerod posted:

I mean it's just a thing you can get a PDF and print on card stock, and hand write your name on.

Mine has little stickers with writing on them for each dose, so at least there is the pretense of originality. I assume/hope there is a database somewhere as well. I do think they should've made a bigger deal about that, make people able to prove they are vaccinated and unvaccinated people unable to do so so that businesses and the government and whoever else can actually tell the difference.

We've required vaccines for many things for a long long time and saying that won't be the case here, there will be no vaccine passports and unvaxxed people are free to do whatever they want is a mistake I think. Unvaxxed people should be made unable to fly, to begin with, and unable to leave the country. Put some pressure on them to get them to do it.

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Apr 25, 2006

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I actually like that idea. No one will want to get multiple covid tests for each day of the event, that's just taking time away from enjoyment. So it may well push some lazy asses to get vaxxed

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Apr 25, 2006

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There needs to be a lot more of that and not just in festivals or events. The more stores, locations, events etc. that demand proof of vaccination the more likely people will just do it so they aren't constantly inconvenienced by/barred from an area or activity.

Fluffy Bunnies posted:

They'll just buy the cards off ebay and lie and put numbers and "MODERNA" on it.

That's why there needs to be an unfalsifiable database of people who are vaccinated.

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Apr 25, 2006

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You could also get this from any random homeless person on the street, lol.

I can confirm that even comparing the two is loving insulting, Americans are absolute babies and you could easily just get randomly sick and have it be many times worse than the vaccine side effects.

This is like comparing a splinter in your palm to having cancer and receiving chemotherapy, they aren't even in the same ballpark lol

Fluffy Bunnies posted:

I agree with this but my experience with this whole lovely covidmania has been that even people in court are too lazy to ask people to put on a mask, so I really doubt they're gonna go to that extent. The Superbowl and Wrestlemania had live crowds full of unmasked people and nobody could even try to pan the camera away from them. If the apathy is that overwhelming, I really doubt an outdoor music festival with 400,000 attendees (per 2019 figures) is going to have the manpower on hand necessary to check everybody or even bring themselves to care.

E: Obviously I hope for different, but my doubts have some evidence behind them. Also, it is a ways away so maybe there will be so many people vaccinated that it won't really matter?

I agree it's difficult and unlikely to happen since the word "database" triggers all the conspiracy theorist freaks, but I still think it is absolutely necessary. And nothing would help us get to herd immunity more quickly than telling people they can't go somewhere or do something until they are vaccinated.

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Apr 25, 2006

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AHH F/UGH posted:

lol Holy poo poo there are still like 750 people dying every single day from this in America, that's insane

A 9/11 every four days except since a building isn't dramatically exploding on TV no one loving cares, and half the goddamn country thinks that hundreds of thousands of Americans dying is a total non-issue/liberal plot

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Apr 25, 2006

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hakimashou posted:

I dont mind taking my shoes off or whatever im not a libertarian weirdo.

Havent hijacked or blown up any planes since have they?

I doubt they ever intended to lol. Part of asymmetric warfare and terrorism is being unpredictable. They know that just the threat of it happening again is enough to scare the piss out of everyone and next time they attack it'll be something totally different.. Also we killed most of the people who were capable of organizing such attacks.

The point that poster was trying to make is that most people to this day take that threat more seriously than they do a virus which has killed hundreds of times more people and is an everyday reality, unlike the specter of terrorism.

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Apr 25, 2006

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hakimashou posted:

the pandemic has had a much bigger effect on the day to day lives of a lot more people in the US than 9/11 did

... and? What's your point? For most of them, their lives have only changed to the extent that they've been forced to change.

While it's had a bigger day to day effect, for most people anyways, the larger psychological effect was clearly 9/11. Not to mention the long term effect. It changed almost everything about this country and several others, despite being a tragedy hundreds of times less severe if you go by numbers. Hell 3,000 Americans dying led directly to a million Iraqis dying and trillions of dollars spent.

But that number dying daily from covid was just a blip in the news cycle, or a hoax depending on who you asked. Not a big deal, somehow.

I mean just look at you. All up in arms the second 9/11 is brought up lol

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Apr 25, 2006

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Platystemon posted:

Even if everyone age sixteen and up had gotten the Pfizer vaccine the first day it was “open season”, they still wouldn’t be fully vaccinated by the time CDC precipitated the mad dash to masklessness.

If they had gotten the Moderna vaccine, they wouldn’t have even had their second shot. If they had the J&J vaccine, they’d be fully vaccinated on paper, but only because no one respects the chart.



drat that vaccine is mfing HUNG

BIG DRYWALL MAN posted:

That Hbomberguy episode is real good. I had no idea the amount of poo poo rear end stupidity is based on 8 parents and 1 “doctor” assuming its from a vaccine.

Plus the whole thing was literally a scam FROM THE START lol. Many of the parents didn't even say that and it was all a scheme to make money and get attention. Which worked depressingly well

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Apr 25, 2006

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Ginette Reno posted:

Looks like we're all gonna be due for another jab: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/16/us/politics/booster-shots.html.

I got mine in...April? May? I forget off the top of my head. I'll definitely be lining up to get a third shot as soon as I'm eligible. I'm not in any risk groups other than being a bit overweight but I've been working hard to lose that weight and have made some really good progress. I'm hoping my parents can get on this asap though.

Honestly I'll line the gently caress up to get a shot every year if that's what it takes with this poo poo. I know it's not going away any time soon because of the morons who won't get one

Seriously. I'll take 5. And a side of fries, why not

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Apr 25, 2006

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Does anyone know by chance (or can find out) when the very first covid thread was posted in gbs? That was the first time I heard about it, before it was really in the news much, and I'm curious when exactly that was

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Apr 25, 2006

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Jeza posted:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3912152&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1

Unsure if it was the first, but it was goldmined so probably? Or close enough.

Thanks, I think that must be it. Jan 23rd

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