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mods and admins gently caress off everyone else discuss marxism. i'd link the old OP but some dumbass decided to move the old thread to FYAD and they nuked it. so great job modding you loving morons, just real stellar work all around. e: thanks to asaprockysituation for recovering the OP ASAPRockySituation wrote on May 16, 2021 03:26: IF YOU'RE ANGRY ABOUT CHEETO HITLER, GO ORGANIZE AND GET ACTIVE! http://www.pslweb.org/join http://www.workers.org/wwp/join/ http://www.foodnotbombs.net/new_site/volunteer.php http://www.newsds.org/p/get-involved.html FOR THE EARTH TO LIVE, CAPITALISM MUST END Global warming, environmental racism polluting our neighborhoods, acidified and depleted oceans, fracking, critical drought, plastics choking the seas, nuclear weapons and waste it is clear that capitalism and production for profit are destroying the planet and threatening all life. Harnessing the earth's renewable resources of sea, wind and solar power to create sustainable energy, seizing the oil and coal companies to stop their fossil fuel pollution, stopping nuclear weapons production, organizing production of food and goods to meet people's needs rather than the bottom line of corporations who produce regardless of the cost to the environment these are the most urgent steps needed to reverse climate change. But this requires making people's right to survive above the rights of the capitalists to make a profit. Karl Barks posted: if you're not feeling canvassing or those types of outreach(which honestly we all post on a internet comedy forum so...), DONATE MONEY. seriously, anything to help these organizations grow is really important. reading list from McCaine, reposted from C-SPAM's favorite tankie: McCaine, by way of Homework Explainer posted: this isn't the complete list (found here). i removed most of the non-essentials and some of the essentials, too. because sadly, we can't all be academics. i'll put a next to the really really important stuff so you know what's a Top Pick from your old pal, the homework explainer as far as "what should be read first," i would start with the basics i.e. marx and engels. go for the manifesto then maybe socialism utopian or scientific, then have at whatever. i started closer readings of marxist texts on the subjects most interesting to me, namely film, theater and literature and have since moved into histories and revolutionary theory. there isn't a "right path" for reading or texts and nobody but the most vulgar of dorks will look down on you for not having read something, because no one and i mean no one has read all this stuff. A Very Personal Communist Bibliography Works by Marx and Engels The Condition of the Working Class in England (Friedrich Engels) – Classic of Engels; early political economy, lively description of, well, the condition of the working class in Manchester and elsewhere in 1844. The German Ideology & Theses on Feuerbach (Marx/Engels) – Don't originally belong together but are often combined. First "Marxist" book, programmatic statement of historical materialism. Manifesto of the Communist Party (Marx/ Engels) – Needs no introduction. Preface to a Contribution to a Critique of Political Economy (Karl Marx) – Very brief, abstract, but famous summary of historical materialism. Only half a page. Capital (3 vols) (Karl Marx) – Get the Penguin editions. Marx's critique of political economy. Socialism: Utopian or Scientific? (Friedrich Engels) – A summary of the Anti-Dühring, classic statement of the significance of scientific socialism. The Civil War in France (Karl Marx) – Marx's interpretation of the Paris Commune. Critique of the Gotha Programme (Karl Marx) – Programmatic statement of the differences between Marx and Engels' views and those of state-oriented (left) social-democrats. The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (Karl Marx) – Not as essential perhaps, but a classic of Marx's own history-writing, and thereby an example of what he and Engels considered good political history. Many memorable quotes. The Origins of the Family, Private Property, and the State (Friedrich Engels) – An anthropological, historical materialist view of the early societies and the origins of the various structures of oppression and exploitation out of them. Perhaps the first feminist ideas in Marxism also. Grundrisse (Karl Marx) – Again, get the Penguin edition. Marx's drafts, notes, and outtakes for Capital, as well as various musings on technology, political economy, labour, and so forth. Essential for the deeper level grounding. Political Works by major Marxist politicians and secondary literature on the thought of major Marxist politicians The Essential Works of Lenin (Lenin; ed. Henry Christman) – Cheap Dover edition of Lenin's main works in their standard English translations. Includes "The Development of Capitalism in Russia;" "What is to be Done?;" "Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism;" "State and Revolution." These are Lenin's canonically major theoretical publications on political topics in his own lifetime. On Practice and Contradiction (Mao Zedong; ed. Slavoj Zizek) – Mao's two main early texts on his theory of contradictions and their resolution in political practice. See also "On the Correct Handling of Contradictions Among the People" and Combat Liberalism. and here's a Homework Explainer Top Tip: don't read zizek's introduction to the texts if you opt for this edition. it'll gently caress up your understanding of mao big time! Selections from the Prison Notebooks (Antonio Gramsci) – Selection of Gramsci's ideas on hegemony, ideological struggle, politics, etc. The Black Panthers Speak (ed. Philip Foner) – Collection of the major texts of the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense. (note: revolutionary suicide is also cool.) The Autobiography of Malcolm X (Malcolm Little; ed. Alex Haley) – Major political autobiography by a great American revolutionary. Left-Wing Communism: An Infantile Disorder (Lenin) – Lengthy polemic, in the form of a series of thematic essays, by Lenin. Aimed against his Left Communist opponents, in particular in Germany and the Netherlands. On Guerrilla Warfare (Mao Tse-Tung) – Mao on waging people's war. Rather abstracted and probably not of great use for most First Worlders, but still. Thomas Sankara Speaks (Thomas Sankara; ed. Michael Prairie) – Collection of the (few) speeches and statements by Sankara, revolutionary leader of Burkina Faso, on anti-imperialism and the like. it's not on the original list, but i'd also recommend "on the opposition" and "anarchism or socialism?" by one j.v. stalin. Marxist (and other useful) political economy, history of economics, and the like The Limits to Capital (David Harvey) – Lengthy analysis of the nature of capital and capitalism based on Marx's "Capital," with a particular focus on uneven development and geographical distribution. A Companion to Marx's Capital (David Harvey) – Based on his YouTube lectures, a guide to the reading of Capital, mainly vol. 1. Strong on the conceptual structure of the book and the contradictions inherent in capitalist accumulation, including money and finance, but not as good a guide on value theory. Debt: The First 5000 Years (David Graeber) – Anarchist anthropologist Graeber's magnum opus on debt, money, obligation, and the history of economic institutions. Rewards a careful and critical reading. Not a Marxist text and by no means wholly reliable, but very stimulating and original, destined to be a classic. Reclaiming Marx's Capital (Andrew Kliman) – Important, if technical, work on Marx's value theory. Refutes 99% of all the objections to it you'll ever hear or read. History, historiography, etc., except of topics specified elsewhere Late Victorian Holocausts (Mike Davis) – A provocative title, but don't let that put you off. Brilliantly puts the liberal political economy of 19th and early 20th century imperialism and colonialism in context, shows its murderous implications many times worse than the "monsters" of communism, and relates all this to the emerging science of systems theory besides. Will make you hate economic liberalism, however nice sounding, forever. Settlers: Mythology of the White Proletariat (J. Sakai) – Essential classic of Third Worldist theory and the Marxist theory of settlerism. Not reliable on every detail, but a revolutionary work in every sense of the word. Labour Aristocracy: Mass Base of Social-Democracy (H.W. Edwards) – Another major text of the Third Worldist viewpoint. Makes the crucial argument for the origins and nature of social-democracy as arising out of imperialist rent. Age of Revolution 1789-1848, Age of Capital 1848-1875, Age of Empire 1875-1914 and Age of Extremes 1914-1989 (Eric Hobsbawm) – Perhaps the authoritative Marxist history of the modern age in four successive parts. An essential reference point for debates in Marxist interpretation of the recent past. Open Veins of Latin America (Eduardo Galeano) – Essential reading on the colonization and underdevelopment of Latin America. The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (Ilan Pappé) – Not Marxist per se, but a standard work on the origins and nature of the settler state Israel and their oppression and exclusion of the Palestinians, with of course major repercussions in global politics. King Leopold's Ghost (Adam Hochschild) – Popular anti-imperialist history of Belgian colonialism and the colonial debates. Philosophy and Theory Aesthetics and Politics (Adorno, Benjamin, Bloch, Brecht, and Lukács) - Great Verso collection of the debates between these major Marxist philosophers before the war on aesthetic and political topics. The Dialectic of Enlightenment (Adorno and Horkheimer) - Fundamental text of the Frankfurter Schule: reflections on fascism, liberalism, and technology in the wake of the Holocaust. The Society of the Spectacle (Guy Debord) – Perhaps the central text of the Situationist movement and in some ways the most serious theoretical reflection on the worldview of 1968 (it was written in 1967). See also Comments on the Society of the Spectacle, though this is not as interesting. Orientalism and Culture and Imperialism (Edward Said) – Not at all Marxist, but obligatory classics on understanding Eurocentrism and orientalism in culture and ideology at a conceptual level. Postmodernism: The Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism (Fredric Jameson) – Difficult, but rewarding classic on postmodern culture from a Marxist viewpoint. Jean-Paul Sartre: Basic Writings (Jean-Paul Sartre; ed. Stephen Priest) – The father of Marxist existentialism on freedom, art, politics, etc. Lenin and Philosophy and Other Essays (Louis Althusser) – Can't stand him personally (note: smdh), but by many Althusser is considered a major figure in postwar Marxist history and philosophy. Liberalism: A Counter-History (Domenico Losurdo) - Excellent historical analysis of liberal thought from a Marxist perspective, showing its essence, strengths, and limitations. Illuminations: Essays and Reflections (Walter Benjamin; ed. Hannah Arendt) – Selection from the best essays by the great messianic Marxist thinker Benjamin, including his essential pieces “The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction” and “Theses on the Philosophy of History." Top Tip: you only really need to read the two named essays, which i . namaste. The Wretched of the Earth (Frantz Fanon) – Classic statement of anti-colonial Marxism, on the need for revolutionary violence against colonialism, etc. See also "A Dying Colonialism." Black Skin, White Masks (Frantz Fanon) – Fanon on racism and the psychology of colonialism. On the USSR Farm to Factory (Robert C. Allen) – Brilliant work by a major liberal economic historian demonstrating the enormous superiority of the Soviet planning policies of the 1920s and 1930s, up to Khrushchev's time, compared to any realistic alternative. Will shock your worldview if you're used to the Western portrayal of Soviet economic policy as hopeless from the start. Ten Days That Shook the World (John Reed) – The canonical novelization of the experience of the Russian Revolution. not on the original list, but "is the red flag flying?" and "human rights in the ussr" by al szymanski and "socialism betrayed" by roger keeran and thomas kenny are also what i'd consider essentials. On China and Korea The Transformation of Chinese Socialism (Lin Chun) – Great book on the attempts to build socialism, development, and national unity in the Maoist period, and the changed aims and methods in how these are dealt with in the Deng period and since. The Rise of China and the Demise of the Capitalist World Economy (Li Minqi) – Marxisant world systems analysis of the rise of capitalist China and how this not only reorients the world system towards Asia, but also further contributes to the decline in the rate of profit and thereby forces capitalism to the limits of its ability to expand. Fanshen and Shenfan (William Hinton) – In-depth, personal chronicle of the transformation of a Chinese village during the Maoist period and after. Race to the Swift (Jung-En Woo) – On Korean development, and why it had everything to do with planning and imperialism and little with miracles of the market. The Korean War (Bruce Cumings) – Progressive standard work on the forgotten war. Red Star Over China (Edgar Snow) – Popular and readable narrative of the Communist struggle in China against the KMT, landlordism, and the Japanese in the 1930s. Terrorism and Communism (Trotsky) - Tract replying to Karl Kautsky arguing against parliamentarianism and for the armed protection of the Bolshevik Revolution Raskolnikov38 has issued a correction as of 23:11 on Sep 16, 2023 |
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lumpentroll posted:wait for real its in whatever their subforum is called, i'm too high to remember currently
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# ¿ May 15, 2021 22:27 |
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lmao the fyad IKs
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I'd like to see you try check the lepers colony buddy lmao
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# ¿ May 15, 2021 22:34 |
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night of the long probes
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# ¿ May 15, 2021 22:41 |
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Algund Eenboom posted:Instead of going to amazon.com, you should go to marxists.org. In this tropers opinion major works are helpfully available in a wide variety of free ebook formats. it’s really great!
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# ¿ May 16, 2021 06:05 |
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Zodium posted:finally ate my first probe in seventeen years of posting because flavius is such a bad mod he's ended up at war with the forum he's supposed to moderate, so now I feel free to post that flavius is a retard to be the slightest bit fair I assume their thinking was “fine if it wants to be a fyad thread it can be one” without stopping to consider how fyad might think of the subject
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# ¿ May 16, 2021 06:07 |
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reminder mod(s): you can simply stop doing things and this will all go away
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 04:07 |
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me: mods please, stop owning yourselves i'm begging you. mods: Horseshoe theory posted:"We don't negotiate with terrorists."
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 04:10 |
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please i'm begging you. all you have to do is a queue up auto-approved probe and put "dont say that please" in the reason. thats all that has had to happen for weeks now everything else backfires more than a shotgun with bugs bunny's fingers in the barrels
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 04:32 |
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Flying-PCP posted:The mods are good actually. A lot of you have problems. You can't picket your way to having a sovereign thread or whatever on an internet forum and I truly don't understand how the idea gets into your heads that this would ever work. thanks for the post no one wanted d&d lib
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 05:28 |
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lumpentroll posted:you were probed by a fyad ik lmao
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 06:52 |
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jesus loving christ probe people for using retard, probate for mods are pedos if the admin team has really decided that is the best way of handling the injokes, and stop trying to be the center of the thread and/or allowing ferrinus to try. if you just probated people and never said a word in the thread none of this would have happened. but no we have to try to psycho-analyze why larry likes antagonizing you (spoilers: its funny), the morality of slurs, and whatever bullshit ferrinus has typed up because the mods and ferrinus cant take a loving hint and shut up
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# ¿ May 17, 2021 07:52 |
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someone tell the aussie posters that oval office is now a forbidden slur lol
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# ¿ May 18, 2021 01:39 |
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Homeless Friend posted:cspam mods peekin at fluffdaddy's forum having 4 users and being like "now this is guy we should take a lesson from" lol no posts, no problems whats that? we're an internet forum? oh nooooooooo
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# ¿ May 18, 2021 01:49 |
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Seems like it's pretty hard to have a labor movement if you're weeding out most of the laborers because they don't like reading 19th century economics books not everyone has to read them. but there is an anti-intellectual tendency among those who want to disregard them completely so that we may flounder about and spend years rediscovering what those who came before already experienced, analyzed, and wrote about
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# ¿ May 18, 2021 17:55 |
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material conditions: my life loving sucks because of western imperialism oh look a (tiny) subset of my religion has a direct action solution to this
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# ¿ May 18, 2021 18:12 |
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Why choose i am going to google this and if this single part!!! is longer than the original pamphlet i'm gonna be mad and it is over 50% the length of the whole work. im mildly annoyed
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Cpt_Obvious posted:What's the deal with the spiral? What are they spiraling towards? Each other? a rough beast slouching towards Bethlehem to be born
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Celot posted:Sure. Do you think they established an Islamic state? cross out islam and yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Hundreds
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# ¿ May 18, 2021 19:50 |
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i really do not understand the argument at play here. is it that because not all revolutions are communist that marx is wrong
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Ferrinus posted:eastern orthodox isis (as cool as that would be) it, in fact, was not cool https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Guard
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:If anything a cleaner analogue might be the westernization of Petrine Russia because it was a cultural assimilation/destruction of "traditional" Russia and further loving of the peasants and the response was a huge nationalistic pushback from the serfs and Cossacks who formed or further entrenched their own territories (oblasts) as a reaction death to the beard tax
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Celot posted:QM predicts a probability distribution. Can Marxism? Like half the time there’s a mass religious fundamentalist movement and half the time there isn’t? i swear to god if you're a stemlord who has never set foot in a social science class
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# ¿ May 18, 2021 20:55 |
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lmao
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Celot posted:I said I don’t know a bunch of times. The material explanation makes no sense. their life sucks and the extremists offer an explanation and solution that makes sense according to how they have experienced and see the world
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Celot posted:Hating America and wanting an Islamic state are not logically related. so how did isis form in your world
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John Charity Spring posted:LF revivalism i could use a new pair of pants
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mila kunis posted:good news lmao is this why Muʿtazila is the easiest branch of Islam to covert Russia to in ck3
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StashAugustine posted:Iirc theres a legend that a bunch of Kievan Rus were on the verge of converting to Islam until they explained the whole "no booze" thing yeah it’s part of the mythos of the conversion of Vladimir.
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The Primary Chronicle reports that in the year 987, after consultation with his boyars, Vladimir the Great sent envoys to study the religions of the various neighboring nations whose representatives had been urging him to embrace their respective faiths. The result is described by the chronicler Nestor. Of the Muslim Bulgarians of the Volga the envoys reported there is no gladness among them, only sorrow and a great stench.[14] He also reported that Islam was undesirable due to its taboo against alcoholic beverages and pork.[22] Vladimir remarked on the occasion: "Drinking is the joy of all Rus'. We cannot exist without that pleasure."[22] Ukrainian and Russian sources also describe Vladimir consulting with Jewish envoys and questioning them about their religion, but ultimately rejecting it as well, saying that their loss of Jerusalem was evidence that they had been abandoned by God. His emissaries also visited pre-schism Latin Rite Christian and Eastern Rite Christian missionaries.[citation needed] Ultimately Vladimir settled on Eastern Christianity. In the churches of the Germans his emissaries saw no beauty; but at Constantinople, where the full festival ritual of the Byzantine Church was set in motion to impress them, they found their ideal: "We no longer knew whether we were in heaven or on earth", they reported, describing a majestic Divine Liturgy in Hagia Sophia, "nor such beauty, and we know not how to tell of it." Vladimir was impressed by this account of his envoys.[14] prince Vladimir the great? ur cancelled
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# ¿ May 18, 2021 23:20 |
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actually celot if you do return to read this: please get a copy of ordinary men: reserve police battalion 101 to see that “sane” people can quite easily do monstrous things
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# ¿ May 19, 2021 07:35 |
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have breathing exercises/thoughtfulness ever helped anyone ever? none of that poo poo has ever reduced my anxiety a single iota
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indigi posted:no it isn’t. there’s no perfectly smooth brains. flcl disagrees
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all I know about popper is that every dipshit in d&d during the aughts loved him and wanted to kiss him
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# ¿ May 20, 2021 06:59 |
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tokin opposition posted:I'm the CIA agent assigned to this thread, AMA when flavius gets demodded do they add his star to the wall in the lobby?
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Atrocious Joe posted:the real r word is revisionism
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indigi posted:who is Jussie Smollet new communism thread
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aaaa god I’m losing my mind at half the threads I read flipping out over cena apologizing to China for calling Taiwan a country
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40% of the loving island doesn’t even agree it’s a separate country aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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