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lumpentroll posted:lmao 2016 was a different time
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May 16, 2021 04:55
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I'm actually happy I'm getting chain probed by fyad for the first time. I feel like a real member of the community. It's like I'm getting "sexed in".
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May 17, 2021 00:03
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Dr. Kyle Farnsworth posted:when u think about it flavius is just Stalin purging the old bolsheviks (tossing them into fyad) Honored to be getting purged for the crime of being too cool for school 
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May 17, 2021 07:20
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Flying-PCP posted:This is obfuscating the fact that if a different mod replaced Flavius, and that mod did anything at all resembling their job as defined by the admins, you'd just end up hating them just as much. I just want the theory thread to go back to how it used to be tbh. If left to it's own devices the thread will produce a slur approximately every 3-4 months. This is far better than the SA average of 1 slur a week. It's math.
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May 17, 2021 07:28
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Atrocious Joe posted:wtf are Marxist-Humanists Marxist that don't like it when people are mean and think socialists should try being nice Essentially demsocs with pretensions of marxism. The kind of person who argues that the Soviet Union "wasn't real socialism" A lot of DSA types fit in this group. At least, ones that have enough self awareness to not identify as libertarian socialists.
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May 23, 2021 21:19
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you're not an ultramoderator harry, don't be a pedo
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May 28, 2021 16:01
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The Voice of Labor posted:that actually doesn't help at all. it's ad hominem. doesn't matter if he was a forum moderator, he recorded imagine and millions of people listened to it and liked it and millions of people continue to listen to it and like it. by way of scattershot, some of them are bound to pay attention to the lyrics and some are bound to say "you know, he's right, I hadn't thought about that before" just by shear numbers alone. there isn't even that low bar being matched today and I'm not sure it's possible between media monopolization and algorithmic control of poo poo like youtube. I bring up this example and could say, like, bob dylan, not to laud them but to point out that it doesn't look like we're even allowed that anymore at any scale. You're putting the superstructure before the base rather than the other way around. The fact of the matter is that if counter culture could convince the masses to rise up it would've happened already. The dominant values of any given state will be the values of the ruling class. If a counter culture is allowed to exist it is precisely because the establishment does not view it as a serious threat to the status quo. The vast majority of Russian workers didn't consider themselves to be socialists before 1917. Then WW1 happened and the Bolsheviks were the only ones providing leadership with an acceptable solution. gently caress the war, we'll take territorial loss over dying for the ruling class. Changes in material conditions change people's ideology not the other way around.
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May 30, 2021 17:43
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Even the godawful "peoples' microphone" was too much of a government for them, which is part of why the "activists" responsible for CHAZ made sure it'd have no governing whatsoever. Didn't a sound cloud rapper declare himself the president of CHAZ
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May 31, 2021 17:58
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The Voice of Labor posted:they are and marx would drink all of you under the table Both the CNT-FAI and Mao's China declared drug use to be a symptom of the despair caused by capitalism. Meanwhile the Soviet Union attempted to stamp out alcohol consumption for it's entire existence. I can't think of a single socialist movement of any note that didn't crack down on drug use, both illicit and legal.
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May 31, 2021 18:07
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The Voice of Labor posted:
Yeah just ask notable lsd users bill gates and Steve jobs how much it did to increase their empathy. poo poo I don't even have a problem with hallucinogens, but they don't radically alter a person's behavior anymore than affordable therapy would. In reality the only people not concerned about illicit drug use are the ones well off enough to not have said drugs destroy their community. ie: hippie dilettantes
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Jun 1, 2021 15:22
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fart simpson posted:racism has existed for pretty much all of human history and predates capitalism; I think you might be conflating racism with more generalized prejudice. Race as we understand it is a relatively novel concept that came about due to European colonization. Before skin color became a big deal, religious and ethnic affiliation were way more important factors in determining prejudice. The Romans didn't hate the Teutons for being pale redheads, they hated them because they weren't Romans.
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Jun 1, 2021 15:40
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dead gay comedy forums posted:We have a saying here, a quip by one of our foremost thinkers: "Brazilians are foreigners in their own homeland". drat it's almost like all the countries in this hemisphere are colonial projects 
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Jul 6, 2021 16:50
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docbeard posted:One of the issues in (but not necessarily unique to) an American take on socialism is that it would probably work better if it weren't called socialism, due to the lifelong conditioning of more than half a century's worth of Americans to see socialism as a nightmare dystopian dictatorship that hates you, yes you, little Charlie and Susie, personally. (To the point where, even knowing better, it's hard for me not to knee-jerk see it that way sometimes.) I suspect we're starting to see that go away but it'll be a few decades before it's gone completely. This is essentially lying to Americans on the reasoning that they're too dumb to: A. Become socialists because of ideological conditioning B. Not recognize socialism with a red white and blue coat of paint To the first point I'd rebut that only people old enough to remember the cold war have any deeply ingrained opposition to socialism. These people are also by and large the more comfortable half of the American population and thus the least sympathetic demographic to socialism already People born after the breakup of the USSR received a substantially more cursory anti-communist indoctrination. If surveys on the issue are anything to go off of socialism is more popular than capitalism with young people. To the second point I'd say lying to people about your ideology is antithetical to leftwing thought. The Nazis tried to equate socialism with German nationalism precisely because they, like the rest of the right wing, are bad faith liars. Attempting to synthesize socialism with "Americanism" can only end in the discrediting of socialism as a valid form of anti-imperialism.
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Jul 7, 2021 15:30
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The Voice of Labor posted:
Wtf are you talking about the CPUSA was influential enough in the 20s and 30s to scare the bourgeois into the new deal. Your reasoning is so patently false I'd recommend you read a history book on the American labor movement.
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Jul 11, 2021 18:11
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mawarannahr posted:I don’t have time to read a history book on a failed movement, I have enough of those in the bathroom. What did they do to scare the bourgeoisie into the New Deal? If you're an American leftist you absolutely should read about what didn't work in the past in your country. Otherwise you're just going to repeat their mistakes to worse results. Suffice to say https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD1XDhKr8U
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Jul 12, 2021 18:27
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Pentecoastal Elites posted:the only reason that CPUSA was any flavor of threat was because the Soviet Union existed Well yeah, the only reason the CPUSA existed in the first place is because of people jumping ship from the spusa post Russian rev You might as well be making the same argument about literally any 20th century communist party, including the successful ones. Ie: china. Outside backing doesn't change the fact that the local national party itself was the vector through which the working class was organized. Americans joined the CPUSA because of the CPUSAs preeminence in the labor movement, not because of the USSR.
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Jul 13, 2021 17:11
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Ardennes posted:They really didn't dig their teeth into serious reformism generally until after the war. There is a difference between a party existing and for institutional forces to allow it to actual start making changes to society. I don't disagree with you but a notable exception to this was the weimar republic. Sure it was created specifically to crush the communist insurgents but it also embodied the SPDs ideological project of 'perfecting' parliamentary democracy. Of course, we all know how that turned out
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Jul 15, 2021 17:38
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Meanwhile we've apparently had a doctor shortage for years while the effort in time and money to become a doctor is kept artificially high. Just promote senior nurses to doctors after a given amount of time. They do most of the work anyway.
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Jul 21, 2021 13:12
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Ferrinus posted:you could characterize lysenko's flaw as voluntarism, ie thinking that because everything in nature is a process of transformation rather than a static essence then anything can be turned into anything else by just wanting it hard enough, when in fact things only transform if the resolution of their internal contradictions is also supported in the correct way by their external environment. mao's example is that you can warm an egg and see it hatch into a chicken, but will be disappointed if you warm a stone the same way A time traveler gave him a copy of the secret and he took it way too literally
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Jul 27, 2021 16:38
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Ferrinus posted:china doesn't count for a bunch of silly reasons going all the way back to stuff like "mao used peasants instead of workers so the revolution wasn't even marxist" Ironically enough it would be Mao that proved bakunins assertstion that the peasants had revolutionary potential
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Aug 2, 2021 22:17
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Lenin also dressed up as a woman to move around undetected. thats real left unity
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Oct 5, 2021 16:04
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The Joe Stalin Megathread (which i think has some merit)
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Oct 23, 2021 01:41
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I feel like any conversation about Beria needs to take into account he replaced the even more purge happy Yagoda. What got Beria the job was the same instinct that drove Beria to choose markets and detente with the west. The dude had a preference for the path of least resistance, we don't have to resort to characterizing him as the overman who only cared about acquiring power for it's own sake.
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Oct 23, 2021 01:47
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LittleBlackCloud posted:in CPUSA we have had several encounters with something called "patriotic socialists" which I think is like the Infrared thing. Or maybe just larouchites? Also join CPUSA. The racist socialist tendency is so odd. Htory shows it's political suicide (strasserism nazbol, more recently twp) but the dumbest intellectuals keep trying to revive it. They're practically asking to get Long Knife'd.
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Dec 9, 2021 01:49
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V. Illych L. posted:yankees, why does american leftism have such a boner for demonstrated total failures kautsky and bernstein and USPD-ism I don't wanna hear this poo poo from some welfare-nannied norwegian
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Dec 25, 2021 15:47
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Guy from the herrenvolk social democracy with a smaller population than wisconsin: how about you yanks learn from a country with a real leftwing tradition, me and my 16 cousins 
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Dec 25, 2021 15:55
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MLSM posted:How good/important is Theories of Surplus Value compared to Das Kapital and the Grundrisse? Marx described it as the fourth volume of capital, but what more does it offer in addition to the other three volumes, if any? It teaches you how to get laid
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Jan 12, 2022 17:29
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MLSM posted:Your mom already taught me that Goondolences
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Jan 12, 2022 23:06
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The Voice of Labor posted:given that the hegelian project of thesis/antithesis/synthesis doesn't end until the universe expires, what would the faces of opposition be if we ever achieved communism? like, what would be the shaping force of history once it's no longer class struggle? Humanity vs the aliens (we are going to gently caress them)
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Jan 13, 2022 16:52
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Socialism with Jeffersonian Characteristics
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Jan 26, 2022 16:30
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The Voice of Labor posted:
Living out in the sticks without access to quality healthcare, education, and employment didn't feel very liberating to me but maybe your experience is different.
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Jan 26, 2022 16:32
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Fish of hemp posted:I mean, why do all communist movements dream about concrete cubes and drab clothing? What's wrong with nice clothes and wooden buildings? Well for one concrete cubes are better than literal homelessness Also we are too dependent on timber as it is
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Jan 28, 2022 07:11
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