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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

immediately closing the thread was unfunny 0/5

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

demod flavius open thread

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

jung-marx

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the liberal answer is that the work and genius involved in organizing production and bringing it to market is paid for and evaluated fairly by the market in the profit and is separate from the fairly priced labor involved

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

indigi posted:

I get how one could find enjoyment in reading this, but to me, it sucks. someone rewrite it in the style of Bill Burr
burr-marx thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew6fv9UUlQ8

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

burr on commodity fetishism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hZ5gTYMk8Y&t=148s

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Mar 15, 2006



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Mar 15, 2006

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

comedyblissoption posted:

demod flavius open thread

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

R essurect the other actually ancient and senile thread, cowards

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

*moonbase alpha text to speech*

John Lennon John Lennon John Lennon John Lennon John Lennon John Lennon John Lennon John Lennon

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

anarchohippie industrial commune

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

tokin opposition posted:

They want to kill us all and have no real distinction beyond "liberals" for everyone from John Oliver to posters itt.
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYfgvS0FA7U

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

The Voice of Labor posted:

riot ribs is immediately cointelpro'ed because if you're giving out ribs and hamburgers and other desirable food stuffs, that represents a threat.
grillpilled

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

hypercule

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Truga posted:

i read the first 20 or so pages today and it also challenges a bunch of super common bullshit myths about stalin in the beginning, so if people read just those bits that'd be pretty nice

anyway, https://twitter.com/MacoAlgo/status/1400826568335888388lmfao
some deep ancient platonist wisdom itt

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the anti-tankie thread on sa is obliged to answer me if they are a stanford experimenter it's in the rules you have to say yes if you are

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

dead gay comedy forums posted:

imho, the best way atm to demonstrate that is the incredible amount of money that major companies dedicate to stock buybacks, in order to maintain stock prices or to increase value according to expectations

should that not happen, the stocks will not appreciate in value, which to other investors would mean "uh oh they are becoming less profitable", even if the company is perfectly fine in cash reserves and revenue, leading to disbursement of that company
shouldnt stock buybacks be interpreted more often as a tax evading dividend

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

splifyphus posted:

isn't the difference that the excel spreadsheet can be hidden and monopolized, but the blockchain is open and distributed?

it obviously has zero use case under current conditions but in the context of different social relations, maybe it could be worth something.
git (source control system) is an example of applied cryptographic hashes to dissuade tampering of the data while keeping data distributed and open

these merkle trees are an applied concept that predates bitcoin by decades

the only thing bitcoin adds is proof of work which is unnecessary if you have a functioning society. and if you don't have a functioning society the possible benefits of a distributed computer currency are going to be moot

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

proof of work is a mechanism to just pointlessly waste labor time and has no accounting benefit

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

a classless ppls revolution but only for the fellas 💪

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

as long as you keep my boi dick wolff safe richard

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

welcome back larry didnt even know u got perma'd lmao

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

euphronius posted:

if you think Stalin was worried about Germany in the late 20s the repressions in Russia throughout the late 20s and 30s have a different context than usually presented

also problems the Bolsheviks had the peasants in Russia in general
just a reminder that a bunch of allied nations invaded russia to back the czar against the revolution and that 1/8th the population of the soviet union were murdered by the nazi invasion and world war 2
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

indigi posted:



got this ad for anticommunist/antisocialist children’s books on Duolingo lol
somewhere theres a preschool where kids use tokens to rent non-communal toys and playground equipment

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

The Voice of Labor posted:

what would be a working definition for fascism? the best I got is the belief that bad things happening to people is good as long as they aren't happening to you. I think that's the string that unites the fasc
it's when capitalism fully drops the mask op

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the cold war dictatorships of latin america may have imploded but they were ultimately victories of class war

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

dead gay comedy forums posted:

could you please elaborate? being Brazilian, I am curious to hear that take
they forestalled potential populist revolutions in latin america in a time that they were happening all throughout the world, they prevented greater latin american solidarity and economic exchange with such movements, they kept the workers under heel to a much greater degree than otherwise, and they forged stronger relations with imperialist nations protecting the class structure that persist to this day

the dictatorships failed in the sense they were no longer nominal dictatorships, but they are a success by the metrics of class war

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

maybe it's helpful to think of the cuban revolution as a big giant warning klaxon to the capitalist class in the US and latin america that theyre going to have to start dropping the mask to get a lid on these situations

there's an obvious reason that the US and OAS conspired to isolate cuba diplomatically and economically

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

it's no coincidence that the liberal and socdem endorsed candidate hindenberg after winning the presidential election essentially outlawed the rising communist party shortly before hitler's ascent to dictator

fascism and threat to bougies are intrinsically linked and any analysis omitting this is hopelessly liberal

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Victories of the bourgeois are not victories for Fascism, which defines victory in terms of a revolutionary transformation of the bourgeois state into eternal fascism. Most reactionary latin american governments don't even count as fascist, even if they were dictatorships of one form or another.
we agree except that my definition of fascism is more expansive to include the bougies as a class dispensing with liberal parliamentary farces to enforce their control

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

we could try to tie the idea of fascism rigidly to world war 2 ideologies as espoused by those claiming proudly they are fascists, but the fascist movement as far as im concerned was really about capitalists being uncomfortable with liberalism being able to hold the system together for them and so it was discarded

european bougies were fearful of the specter of 1917, had to keep stamping out socialist movements, and they got fed up and threw away the mask for "listen here you little shits"

the heirs of mercedes benz, which had literal execution chambers in their nazi factories to enforce worker obedience, are today among the richest people on the planet

of course there's an analogy with cuba and socialist movements in latin america and the forces of reaction installing dictatorships

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's unscientific to redefine fascism as being merely any kind of vulgar bourgeois dictatorship, which is part of how it devolved into being something that baby leftists use to describe anything they don't like. We should allow fascism to be defined in the terms of its own ideology, and view it as a genuine third position of 20th century politics. The fact that this third position plays into the hands of bourgeois interests only proves its conceptual and ideological failure, it doesn't mean that it was some kind of bourgeois conspiracy. The intellectual roots of fascism reach down to "socialism" and syndicalism as much as it does anything else.
all valid points but it's really funny to call obama and npr fascists

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

president xi,

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

dead gay comedy forums posted:

honestly I do not know because this type of "intellectual" has been cultivated for many decades in our collective culture now. There's nothing mercenary in their rhetoric if somebody bothers to read it more analytically, which is where I agree with you: such a demeanor is encouraged and cultivated by the relevant material interests because it makes it easier to spouse that sort of bullshit without issue. It is "I am just raising questions" in the worst, naive way possible, bad faith by proxy if possible
a lot of them know what theyre doing

e.g. krugman, pelosi, aoc, et al will pop up their head and bleat single payer when it is in their interests and then start ruthlessly attacking the policy when their interests align in attacking it

there are of course true believers

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

why stop there when you can also make fun of wolff for calling traditional marriage feudalism and robbing any discussion of context

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Trash Ops posted:



they went private lmao
i need the most socdem post u have

no thats too socdem

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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

John Charity Spring posted:

it's not true, their source for it is that the KPD opposed the SPD, and this is interpreted as 'supporting the Nazis'

like this is what they keep linking to back up "the German communists supported Hitler":

https://twitter.com/RealRainbowFire/status/1431739002797834243

they also had this to say on the German Revolution which, lol

https://twitter.com/RealRainbowFire/status/1431774301276053504
furthermore, the senile octogenarian hindenberg was supported by the socdems in his successful presidential re-election against hitler while being denounced by the kpd

hindenberg then worked with hitler and the nazis to make hitler dictator and to murder the communists lol

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