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Does anybody have a preferred Linux tool for measuring memory bandwidth and checking that memory is running in multiple channels? I'm seeing way lower memory bandwidth than I'd expect out of some boxes, and betting that the weird memory config may be to blame. I'm using the mbw tool to get measurements, and dmidecode to see RAM info: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/mbw.1.html It looks to me like memory is running triple channel? These CPUs have 6-channel memory, and using only half of available memory channels sure seems like it might be a problem. dmidecode output looks like this, when I'm looking at memory channels: code:
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SourKraut posted:I may have some that you could have for free, if you can wait until the weekend for me to check. Very kind of you to offer, and yeah I'd appreciate it and be glad to toss you shipping plus a few bucks.
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Bone Crimes posted:So I have an old machine - An i5-2500K 3.3GHz with ASUS P8P67 PRO which is a PCI 2.0 x16 card built in 2011 with a Radeon HD 6950 2 GB videocard. I've been doing some gaming on it - nothing top tier, but older games and indy games and it's worked pretty well but some 3D games (outer wilds) start to chug and I'm wondering if it is worth it to buy a new video card, and if so which one. Are you overclocking it? Basically every 2500K could hit 4.3GHz, and a lot could run 4.5 or 4.6GHz. If you can find any GPU at a reasonable price, it'd be worth upgrading. The current market is so hosed though "reasonable price" doesn't make any sense. For what it's worth, I'm still running a 2500K. It has had over the years a Radeon HD 5850, AMD R9-290, and then a side-grade to a GTX 1060 that I bought for $100 less than I sold the 290 for. My 2500K @ 4.4GHz with a GTX 1060 runs everything that I want it to extremely well, including recent gorgeous looking games like Doom Eternal. In a normal world, I'd recommend a GTX 1660 / Ti or whatever GPU exists around $200, but the cheapest GPU in the world is $500 right now so you don't have any good options.
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Speaking of, where are the prebuilts with the 5xxx APUs now that they are here? A prebuilt with a 5600G or even 5300G and fast memory should be a decent solution for now, and I'd expect them to be cheap as hell. Where are they?
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Butterfly Valley posted:'SFF case' and 'holds 4 3.5" drives' are extremely mutually exclusive. SFF cases are built around GPU and CPU cooler compatibility, not huge amounts of HDD storage. You'll find plenty that fit larger GPUs than yours but only 1 3.5" drive so I'd go with the separate USB linked dock idea. There's a dedicated SFF thread that would be better able to help you out with more specialised recommendations. I'll ask in that thread too, but is that still the case if you don't want a dedicated GPU? What about a case for integrated graphics only, it seems like it'd be possible to do a pretty small case like a thicker Asus Deskmini with some 3.5" drives. Does anybody make that?
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repiv posted:Silverstones 180mm fans were pretty good but they stopped making good cases to put them in What has Silverstone been up to? I was a huge fan of their mITX riser cases, but it's been 5 years and they don't seem to have updated them.
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I'm cross posting from the NAS / Storage thread because this thread gets more traffic and there's a lot of knowledgable people here. What can you tell me about SATA disks on SAS expanders?Twerk from Home posted:What experiences have you had with SATA disks on SAS expanders? I've had a couple of really bad experiences with SATA disks on SAS expanders both at work and at home over the years. Disks falling out of hardware RAID arrays, SATA disks throwing regular I/O errors at a higher rate when used with software defined storage, the whole array going non-responsive and blocking mysteriously and not doing that after the SATA disks were removed and only SAS disks were in place.
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DoombatINC posted:They use a lot of proprietary parts that can't be replaced with anything off the shelf when they break, they also use the cheapest possible components and a lot of them are repurposed from business division machines so the breaking is "when" and not "if" - build quality and cable management also tend to be pretty poor but when it's a hunk of poo poo to start with it's hard to critique zip tie placement What's the problem with the business machine divisions, and what actually breaks? I was planning on getting a boring Dell micro desktop for the next iteration of my home server. I've had a lot of prebuilts over the years, and have found that Dell / HP / Lenovo stuff is much better put together than the no-name junk on Aliexpress, like the Beelink I recently bought. The only thing that's really wrong with the no-name off brand junk tends to be bad thermals and noisy fans, I haven't actually had any complaints with Dell Optiplexes or Lenovo Thinkstations. Edit: If anything, I've been impressed by overall power efficiency when kill-a-watt-ing them and comparing to my homebuilts. Some part of this has gotta be that they're all on 12V-Only power supplies, which are just starting to exist in the homebuilt market. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Aug 20, 2022 |
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I skipped the early DDR3 and early DDR4 generation entirely, so I've got a dumb question: Do the early CPUs on a given memory platform have memory controllers that aren't able to keep up with future faster memory speeds? Or is it sane to grab a relatively small 16GB or 32GB DDR5-4800 kit now, and assume that it'll be possible in the future to swap in a cheap 128GB kit of DDR5-6400 or 7200, which I was surprised to see is an actual JEDEC DDR5 speed? In the past at generation boundaries like this, I've always gone with the last gen memory because it's cheaper, but I'm wondering if maybe I actually want to roll DDR5 this time around.
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loving Moron posted:TBH I deserved to be mocked and ridiculed for being this loving stupid but here goes. I'd buy an Optiplex Micro on Ebay that's an i5-6500 or higher if you wanted to buy something for this and do it on Windows. It'll come with a Windows license and 8GB of RAM or more. Here's one for $99: https://www.ebay.com/itm/195278351200 If you don't want to buy a computer and keep it on all the time, I'd get a rental server from any hosting service for $12-20 per month. It looks like Project Zomboid will work for small groups on 2GB of RAM, but I'd do a luxurious 4GB for less headache. https://us.ovhcloud.com/vps/compare/ $11.50 a month at OVH. https://www.linode.com/products/shared/ $20/mo at Linode.
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loving Moron posted:First off I love you so much. Ex-corporate desktops are a dime a dozen, I'm sure you can get an i7-8700T for a couple bucks more if you want more CPU. If you ever need a desktop without a dedicated GPU, they're the way to go.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Oh, also, the IMC on intel's 12th-gen chips struggles more with four dimms than two. Motherboard memory topologies are also not all great with four dimms, so 4x32GB hitting 6400 with today's chips will be very unlikely unless you luck out on both the motherboard and CPU lottery. Is there any way to find motherboard memory topologies on spec sheets, or reviewers that consistently mention it? I know that there's some fundamental decision that mobo designs make that mean that signals are either going to be better with 2 or 4 DIMMs populated, and the extreme overclocking boards all have only 2 DIMM slots anyway. I'm thinking in the long run here, I'm going to seek concrete advice here once Zen 4, Raptor Lake, Geforce 4xxx and Radeon 7xxx all have their cards on the table, but my last desktop has given me more than 10 years of extremely successful life so far, and I'm planning to get another 10 years out of this next build so a mid-cycle RAM refresh with 4 DIMMs of cheaper DDR5 in the future is in my plans.
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eviltastic posted:e: Thanks! That title is pretty aggressive "DDR5 motherboards should come with only 2 dimm slots as standard". I'll give it a watch, if there's a handful of boards actually laid out for 4 DIMMs I'll be seeking that out in a few months.
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Rinkles posted:Fair enough. I'm not sure how things will shake out, but to me feels like it could be a historic paradigm shift for all the creative industries. Your 3060 Ti made these with stable diffusion? Holy poo poo.
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Rinkles posted:I'm trying to put together a computer on an ultra tight budget for my brother (the i5 6400 I gave him struggles in a lot of games). So I'm looking mostly for used parts (I got a free 2600X from a goon, which was a big help), but I assume getting a second hand power supply is a bad idea. Are you sure that the CPU is the bottleneck here and not the GTX 970? A 6400 should be able to keep up with a GPU like that easily on modern games, especially if he's over 1080p. 6400 -> 2600X is certainly nice but that's not the change I'd make to improve games performance.
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Keisari posted:Yeah, after reading a bit I think a used server is probably the best idea. How complicated are they to work with compared to a normal desktop? But yeah they seem to have more processor cores/other gear so they probably are a lot more power efficient per flop. Computers are computers. There's nothing inherently different about servers other than their super-limited onboard GPUs and remote management. Also taking an eternity to POST, usually redundant power supplies, slower registered RAM. What exactly is your workload? Those micro desktops are going to be much more efficient than the servers, and if you're actually planning to do 24/7 computing at home, you will save money by buying newer gear vs burning tons of electricity on outdated junk. Servers have really high base power usage because they've got tons of fans that typically run constant speed, because they're designed to run in a datacenter stacked in a rack. The only reason to go with a bunch of physical computers vs VMs on a more recent, more powerful machine is if you want the experience of plugging a bunch of physical boxes together and managing the physical networking too. And if your target workload is I/O intensive, you're going to want faster than 1gbps networking too. CoolCab posted:has to be a ton more efficient too, right? i know running servers in your house costs a bomb but like every single one of those computers is going to be what 250-400w ish? somewhere around there, unless you get those SFF ones? like it's all going to cost a bomb to run lol but i have to imagine servers are incentivized to run as energy efficient as possible. plus you could run it in a shed or whatever. Those corporate micro desktops have 65W PSUs and 35W TDP processors, they're vastly more power efficient than anything you could build. 12V only power supplies are more efficient in general and I cannot believe they haven't made it to the DIY market. Edit: To Keisari, I'd try and find a recent 6 or 8 core micro desktop used, and just run VMs on that. A modern 8 core is going to outperform both CPUs of a server of the vintage being discussed. To be specific, even if you don't go all the way to modern 8 cores, I would not pay money for anything older than Skylake (Intel Core 6000) at this point. I don't know Euro pricing, but you can get i5-6500T Dells on Ebay for $100 all day long in the US if you want to go the cheap older route, or 6 core i5-8500Ts for not much more. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Sep 7, 2022 |
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Keisari posted:Well, can't really say for the future, but currently I am working on an AI project with Tensorflow. It means I would basically have it run all cpu cores 100 % on some experiments, followed by days, weeks or possibly months without usage, followed by 100 % usage for days, weeks or months. I'm interested in substituting my own effort and designing with more brute force calculations, as I have very limited time to allocate to AI stuff, but its useful for me and my company. So having a project run for quite a while, even weeks or months, is acceptable, as I might not have time to even look at the project for that time. Are you 100% positive that your models won't work better on GPUs? Tensorflow has made a lot of efforts to work well on GPUs and I'm curious to learn more about which applications would actually prefer CPU. Also, your usage case makes it sound like a rental pay-for-usage model would be better, because then you wouldn't pay when you're not using it. Setting up these environments can be finicky, and just paying for Google Colab or or any on-demand rental usually will include them setting up an environment for you.
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If I wanted to do a build in a Deskmeet B660, how far would you trust the lovely no-name 500W PSU that comes with it? I'm planning to toss one of the new Raptor Lake chips in it, but I was planning to wait for 13700 non-K or 13600 until I saw in the review that Tweaktown stuck a Core i9 in it: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10119/asrock-deskmeet-b660-small-form-factor-pc/index.html. Putting a CPU with 125W TDP / 240W PL1 seems insane, but they specifically note that its motherboard includes power settings for up to 265W power limits.... in an 8L case with a 500W PSU. Thoughts? Edit: I was going to carry over my existing SFF GTX 1060 into it initially, and wait patiently for SFF RTX 4050s or 4060s to exist cheaply at retail, so there's another 120-150W. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Sep 8, 2022 |
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Ash Rose posted:Thanks, can you be more specific on the 6600? I have not looked at graphics card in a hot minute and wanna make sure Im looking at the right thing. The AMD RX 6600 is the current best value in GPUs, as long as it's under $250. We don't mean the nVidia 6600GT from the year 2004. If you want tons of power, you also might be able to snag an nVidia RTX 3070 Ti for under $500, which is also among the best value GPUs. That's enough power for a much higher resolution than your monitor, though.
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I've been seeing motherboards that have "Intel CNVi" support, which is apparently some type of wi-fi upgrade path where the motherboard specifically supports a small number of wi-fi modules: https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gc-ci22m-a/p/14U-00GP-00001 https://www.asrock.com/support/faq.asp?id=514 What's the advantage of using one of these vs just any off-the-shelf M.2 wifi access card?
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Cross quoting here in case anyone wants to try their luck for a ~$300 3080:Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:HUGE deal on the Yeston 3080 10GB, Newegg mobile app only: https://www.newegg.com/yeston-gefor...7XiRaAzn2rkfc.A
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Rinkles posted:In my search for cheaper cases, I've inevitably been looking at older models. What has stuck out to me is that side ventilation wasn't that uncommon (which I think the Lancool demonstrates is great for GPUs), even if overall airflow wasn't the best. tempered glass was a mistake Before tempered glass windows, a ton of the plastic side windows had 120mm fans for ventilation straight on the GPU. They tended not to be filtered there, though. My ancient budget case from 2009 has filters on the front fans, but none on the side: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/cooler-master-storm-scout/3.html 140mm intake fan, even! Edit: What happened to the cheapo NZXT cases? Is there anything like that still around? I did 2 or 3 builds in these and they were perfectly decent: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4331/nzxt_source_210_elite_white_mid_tower_case_review/index.html I haven't seen decent cases anywhere near as cheap since. These were $40! Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Sep 14, 2022 |
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I'm ready to upgrade my 11-year old desktop, and seeking maximum value for a Linux software development system, with occasional gaming and a 70% chance of having a Windows partition around if Steam Proton isn't 100% there yet. I love the extreme degree of nitpicking I've seen in this thread, so tear me apart. I'm pretty out of the loop, especially on cases, power supplies, and SSDs. What country are you in? USA What are you using the system for? Web and Office? Gaming? Video or photo editing? Professional creative or scientific computing? Shitposting? Software development on Ubuntu. C++ compilation speed is a priority, if it's not possible to cheaply build something that's noticeably faster at compiling C++ than a Macbook Air, then this might not be worth the fuss. The Macbook Air I'm using right now is the fastest machine I've ever used for that work, it is noticeably faster than the Core i5-10500T desktop that I also have. I'll also be gaming, but mostly older stuff. What's your budget? We usually specify for just the computer itself (plus Windows), but if you also need monitor/mouse/whatever, just say so. I'm willing to spend up to $1500 if it gets more value. C++ compilation scales extremely well with threads. If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? How fancy do you want your graphics, from “it runs” to “Ultra preset as fast as possible”? Seriously answer this. It drastically changes the recommendations you will get. I will be carrying over my GTX 1060 from the old PC. I am 95% satisfied with the gaming performance of my existing, 11 year old desktop. It was on a 2560x1440 monitor until COVID, when I moved the nice monitor to my work computer and threw an old cheap 1080 on the gaming PC. I'd like to get back to 1440p in the future for sure. Also, I would like to be able to play Half Life: Alyx. If you’re doing professional work, what software do you need to use? What’s your typical project size and complexity? If you use multiple pieces of software, what’s your workflow? I want CLion to run faster. I want faster builds, and to be able to profile code without slowing it down too much. It would be very nice to be able to locally prototype & profile the genomics applications that I'm working with, which requires a minimum of 32GB of RAM, but realistically 64GB would be extremely nice to have. Also, I know I'm not going to get it, but I want AVX-512. It's insane to me that most people's AVX-512 local test platform is laptops from a few years ago, because current laptops don't have it anymore. My current computer: i5-2500K - This thing has been a war-horse. 4.4GHz its whole life. Hyper 212 - I'm not going to try and carry this over, just going to toss it. 8GB of DDR3 GTX 1060 6GB - The 3rd GPU that's been in this computer Some Crucial budget SSDs, BX100 or some poo poo. What I'm thinking for build options: Cheapass 5600G - I expect this would still meet all my goals, and drat that's cheap. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G 3.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($141.00 @ Newegg) Memory: OLOy MD4U323216DJDA 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($157.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Silicon Power A55 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($60.49 @ Amazon) Custom: ASRock DESKMINI X300W Mini / Booksize Barebone System ($189.99) Total: $549.47 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-19 09:58 EDT-0400 8L SFF Intel - I'm not actually going to buy a 12600K, I'm absolutely going to wait for a 13600K instead. Those E-cores would help me a lot. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($277.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9i-17xx 33.84 CFM CPU Cooler ($44.95 @ Amazon) Memory: OLOy MD4U323216DJDA 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($157.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon) Custom: ASRock DESKMEET B660W/B/BB/BOX/US Mini / Booksize Barebone System ($224.98 @ Newegg) Total: $780.89 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-19 10:03 EDT-0400 Full size Intel - What am I losing by doing SFF? Do I somehow get extra performance by using a big case? PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($277.99 @ Amazon) CPU Cooler: Scythe Fuma 2 Rev.B 39.44 CFM CPU Cooler ($65.98 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Newegg) Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($149.99 @ Amazon) Storage: Silicon Power P34A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($74.98 @ Amazon) Case: Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GX1 500 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($42.00 @ Amazon) Total: $850.91 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2022-09-19 10:09 EDT-0400 The biggest questions that I have are:
One last thought: When Tweaktown reviewed that Deskmeet B660 barebones system, they put a 12900K into it and noted that it has power limit settings to give the CPU 265W: https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/10119/asrock-deskmeet-b660-small-form-factor-pc/index.html Edit: poo poo, I just realized that the Deskmeet is full size DIMMs, but the Deskmini is SO-DIMMS. Time to look at pricing again. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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lih posted:the 5600G is not really a good option in any circumstance except 'extremely budget gaming build that can't afford a discrete GPU'. the 5600 is the reasonable option at that sort of price point - despite the names they are unrelated and the 5600G is significantly slower (the 5600X is only marginally faster than 5600 and generally not worth the extra cost). but it sounds like you'll want to consider something more powerful than that anyway since you're focused on C++ compilation speed. Thanks. This is a value-focused build all around, so I'll look at those. I'm willing to go up or down the stack in pursuit of better value in every dimension. I don't really really need AVX-512, it would just be nice to have and it's bizarre to me how its availability has come and gone. I think I'm going to be waiting for Raptor Lake, as those 14 core Core i5s look extremely appealing, but also if they cost $380 I'm probably going to pass and find something else. It also looks considerably cheaper to get DDR4 vs DDR5, which is another small Intel advantage, unless DDR5 is a much bigger impact than I realize. CoolCab posted:those two coolers are going to have radically different properties, yeah. if it helps you visualize that noctua is a 92mm fan, while that sythe fuma is a dual tower dual fan 120mm design. the latter is MUCH more performant than the former regardless of fan quality or build or what have you simply from thermodynamics. Yes, but what does this actually mean for me? Is it giving up 200MHz, or 1000? Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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CoolCab posted:depends entirely on the specific chip. with the one you've picked (a 10 core) first i would expect the noctua to be running at or near full speed all the time because that's a very significant thermal load. on a sustained benchmark for example, a long task it's going to throttle i would guess and make a lot of noise. noctua will minimize it relatively but a 92mm fan is a 92mm fan. this is how noctua's website describes that pairing: OK, I hear that. What would the difference be between buying a 12600K and setting its PL1 power to 65W, vs buying a 12600 non-K which has a rated 65W TDP? Because I'm waiting for the 14-core 13600, and I'd be fine getting non-K parts but the K parts launch first. Alternatively, what about getting an Intel -T SKU with its 35W TDP? Would there be any difference between getting a 12600T, 12600, or 12600K with power limits set identically on all of them? The Tweaktown review specifically says with a 16-core 12900K: quote:For this review, we ran in Air Cooling mode because of the Noctua L9i, but we did find later that we could have bumped up a notch to 120-140mm without much stress on the L9i.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:Anyway, I guess it doesn't really matter if it's official or not. AMD's cards are pretty cheap, and the 6650 XT is a particularly good deal for a midrange GPU right now ($295, or $275 after rebate) How does the 6650 XT / 6700 non-XT stack up compared to the used 5700 XTs for ~$170 on ebay?
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lih posted:the 12400 can't reliably use RAM above 3200 MHz so you shouldn't bother with the 3600 MHz RAM you have there drat, is this universal across Intel's stack? That's a little disappointing, I was sketching out a 13600K with DDR4-3600. Or is this dependent on motherboard? I saw that even B660 explicitly supports RAM overclocking.
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So that means that non-K CPUs can only run DDR4 at 1.2V and DDR5 at 1.1V?! That's crazy, almost every memory kit calls for more. JEDEC timings suck regardless of clock speed, and that's going to limit you to JEDEC.
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You mentioned that you can't increase memory controller voltages, which are what the memory runs at? Edit: googling around some, it looks like no alder chips can reliably run DDR4 faster than JEDEC.... Which seems like a great reason to go DDR5 instead. Interesting. Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Sep 29, 2022 |
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spunkshui posted:It’s kind of crazy to read that 3200 is max. I had no idea such limitations existed for non K cpus. A quick Google found people on Reddit suggesting that the DDR4 support on 12th gen is much worse than 9th/10th, but you can obviously use DDR5 instead.
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lih posted:i have no idea where you're getting the 'ddr4 support is terrible on alder lake and you can't do better than bad jedec timings' stuff from though I might just be confusing myself, I've always set RAM timings / voltages manually before rather than using XMP, but I'm seeing a whole lot of 12600k and 12900K owners dealing with crashes or outright failure to boot. I also wonder if the memory they're using is on the motherboard QVL list, or what else is going on, but this looks pretty wild, especially because people have been recommending against DDR4-3200 for AMD Zen 3 processors and nudging people to DDR4-3600 to 4000: 
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:I'm sorry, but this seems like a terrible way to gauge the general reliability and stability of a CPU. Google for stability problems for any CPU generation from both AMD and Intel, and you will get a lot of results because a lot of people build computers and some percentage of them will always run into issues and post on the internet for help. You are scaring yourself away from making a sensible purchasing decision when we're telling you that none of us have witnessed any such stability issues. Thanks, this helps. I'm just gun-shy because things have changed so much since the last time I did a clean build.
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Chuu posted:The power supply on a relative's computer died that they use mainly for Quickbooks. It's an ancient i7-2600k using onboard graphics, so really anything above 350W is overkill. Any machine with onboard graphics can use the lowest wattage 80+ bronze or better PSU you can find. Buy gold if you want something with better odds of lasting forever. 250W is fine. People are running 12900s in Silverstone SFF cases with 120W PSUs.
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Chuu posted:This is what I thought, although the i5-13600K maxing out at 180W gives me a little pause going as low as 300W for something I don't want to have to touch for 10 years. I am willing to pay more for better quality though. I am having trouble finding power supplies that I trust (and the carry 10 year warranties that shows the manufacturer trusts them) under 550W. Any suggestions? That product basically doesn't exist for cheap in a normal ATX form factor, so I'd just get a Thermaltake Toughpower GX2, $50 for the 600W which is cheaper than the 500W. 80+ Gold, good enough. Warranty is only 5 years, but its half the price of anything 80+ gold with a 10 year. If you really, really want that 10 year warranty, $130 gets you a Seasonic FOCUS PX-550, a Platinum-rated PSU with fanless mode that will never even kick the fan on once under the kind of loads you're talking about.
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:If you break a pin your hosed, yes. I dropped and broke a couple of pins on a Socket 939 Athlon 64 x2 that was rock solid for 4 whole years post-damage, overclocked. I must have hit all power or ground.
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Is there any advantage to XMP vs just reading the memory speeds, timings, and voltages off the packaging and punching it into the BIOS like I've done for ages?
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Lum_ posted:What's the current consensus on best video card for 4K? Does not need to be top of the line or current generation, just something that actually runs without dying unexpectedly. Check temperatures, and if temperatures are not crazy high you may be able to buy a $90 good PSU instead of a $700 GPU. That symptom matches a failing power supply, and cyberpower is known to put awful PSUs in. Edit: for what it's worth, overheating doesn't usually produce shutdowns. Overheating looks like stuttering or poor framerates.
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Lum_ posted:I've blown all the dust out (which is a consistent problem, my wife smokes and I have a cat so it's apocalyptic for dust issues). PSU could be the culprit, though I don't relish the thought of trying to swap it out. Anyway, I set up some tracking metrics on the video card and undervolted it for good measure, if the PSU really is the cause undervolting could be a quick fix right there? After a stress test it got up to about 110c temp, video card fans kicked in fine and there wasn't a reboot. Well, I'm wrong. 110C is too spicy, and if the fans on the GPU are spinning you either have a bad GPU cooler mount, and need to repaste and remount it, or there's no air getting to your GPU at all.
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Corin Tucker's Stalker posted:The Powercolor Fighter RX 6600 dropped to $224 on Amazon, and I'm thinking about picking it up. This will be paired with a Ryzen 5 5600 on a B450, playing on a 1920x1200 monitor at a max of 75Hz. I'll be playing a bit of everything (Elden Ring being the most intense current title), but won't do much RTX stuff. Powercolor has had a good reputation for a really long time.
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