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serefin99 posted:Even if it's 'supposed' to be spicy, the spiciness of it still counts as a running gag, imo. Kotomine purposely makes his mapo tofu as spicy as possible because he likes watching people squirm as he eats it without any difficulty whatsoever. The other point of Kotomine going hellfire spicy, I always imagined, was a form of self-flagellation. Or maybe the man just loves his spice. I can relate. Crasical posted:So on the scale of guessing their identities without being told, Archer is essentially impossible, Caster is very difficult, and Saber will just tell you her true name openly? To paraphrase a long story that we're actually going to be going over much later from the sounds of things, the Red Saber of Extra does not give a singular gently caress.
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Omobono posted:I disagree on something though. While everyone struggles against Herakles because Herakles, knowing he's The Strongest™ skips the recognition phase and considering every engagement with him is a coinflip that's an amazing boon. Strictly speaking, the reason all the Servants had such an rear end time identifying Archer in Stay Night isn't because he was from the future, because the Throne of Heroes exists outside time. It's because he wasn't in the Throne at all. He was an agent of the planet itself, a Guardian, forcibly inserted into the system to prevent the potential end of the world due to what was festering in the Great Grail. Which has two different potential implications about this particular version of him - either he's different in some way that the game will eventually elaborate upon once we get around to his route... or this story is going to get a hell of a lot worse before it gets better, because the kinds of poo poo Guardians get called upon to handle are real bad news.
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In other words, you have to stall to see Faceless King activate - something Caster is exceptionally bad at doing.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Hakuno's intelligence is confusing at times. She was utterly unable to realize Robin Hood was an archer despite seeing him with a bow and arrow, but here she can tell Mr. Flame Clothes is an Assassin because...he looks threatening? If there's one universal constant to Assassins, it's that they're either completely unassuming or they make it utterly clear in seconds. There is zero middle ground.
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ZCKaiser posted:Given how often games love referencing it, my guess is Alice summoned a heroic spirit based off "Alice in Wonderland" (and hey, Caster immediately made a mad tea party reference). Same, when I first played this game back when it was new. My immediate next thought was "and since it's this series, I bet the last two people thought that too."
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I mean, good luck getting Cu Chulainn to actually accept any food. There was exactly one occasion in the original story where Cu showing up didn't mean he was about to stick someone. The problem with most heroic outright weaknesses is that they usually aren't feasible to leverage. Materant fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Didn't seem like there was a whole lot of magic at play with the Jabberwock itself, just it smearing you across the ground. Caster in Stay Night also had the dragon tooth skeletons she deployed early in the story (and saw far more use in the ufotable anime), which would also likely be able to bypass magic resistance by merit of just stabbing you instead.
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cdyoung posted:Actually, Medea doesn't cast Magecraft, which Artoria's Magic resistance no-sells. She uses Sorceries, as in actual real magic. Something her resistance is not as strong against since Artoria is *not* from the age of the gods. Her magic doesn't work so well against Say, Gilgamesh since him and his protections are also from the Age of the Gods, but from an earlier time. Medea and Artoria had a straight-up, no frills battle in Heaven's Feel and it was swift, brutal and one-sided. Medea didn't even scratch her. You could make an argument that her spirit was broken and she was attempting suicide by Saber, of course. But it doesn't really change the fact that she couldn't even hurt her. You got exhibits from each of the other routes attesting to this, as well - the only thing Medea had that could feasibly overcome Artoria was Rule Breaker.
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Omobono posted:I think I'll have to link a particular scene from the EXTELLA LP when I'm not phoneposting (after checking it for EXTRA spoilers). Considering EXTELLA barely even tries to hide True Names, you're probably going to be waiting a while unless you do some rather heavy editing.
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I had forgotten this was a thing they did, and this is a supremely hosed up way to kill someone.
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Marluxia posted:He certainly was a problem, but the issue is all of the power came from the book he had, not himself. He's kind of an one trick pony. If you can deal with his book, he has nothing else, he's not even a real magus. The other problem is one that the series itself isn't shy to say: Gilles is extremely unsubtle as a Caster, and draws attention for miles when he gets serious. And that makes him A Problem, because the Mage Association and the Church would really prefer to not have people banging on their doors asking why Cthulhu is tearing up a bay in some random Japanese town, as well as potentially uncovering their secret Murder Death Kill. Materant fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Nov 10, 2021 |
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Omobono posted:I don't know if Alice ever comes up in GO, probably in one of Alice's interludes but without actually naming her. Alice does often mention Alice in GO, but not by name. Alice is something of an unforgettable friend to her. It's a testament to how good friends they were that their form just sorta is the Alice form in GO. However, mentioning their true form is probably a bridge too far, given we're still not entirely sure what to define Alice as. The game hasn't come entirely clean about that yet.
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Arbite posted:Save Rani this go around. It'll be funnier to save Rin with a different servant. They're covering both. This vote is just on who gets to go first each week.
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Omobono posted:If she wasn't currently Berserker insane she'd almost automatically win against any hero, up to and including Goldie. Like, unironically, the descriptor "way out of our loving league" pales as a turn of phrase for how hosed we would be if she had been summoned as literally anything but a Berserker. By all rights she's in the seat of her power, and I have no loving clue how we're supposed to deal with that short of blowing up the Moon like we're Piccolo or something.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Wasn't Gilgamesh also weakened from being in the Archer Class as well? Even if he was weakened, Gil has straight up never cared because his hideous hoard of weapons lets him play whatever he wants to. In Extella Link he's even exalted to Top Archer by the Moon Cell, so suffice to say he's just fine this way.
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BisbyWorl posted:I managed to find a translation of the Extra Materials book, and it says that, "Run Ru (her JP name) lost her beloved child while giving birth, and that made her lose her sanity." ...Run Ru. Of course she actually was a demented Ronald McDonald knockoff, and that wasn't just added in localization.
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Omobono posted:Think of this as a fatal poison. Caster is going to fade soonTM but they don't want to gently caress around and find out. Yeah, this is very much a situation where you have to consider that Julius is attacking you on the first day, when he hasn't seen any of what your Servant is capable of. It's far easier for him to just hit you with something lethal and see how you go about recovering, rather than try and press the win and potentially end up learning that your Servant happens to be immune to magic circuit poison or whatever they hit us with. And also that they're writing around three different playable Servants. Saber and Archer are far less unassuming than Caster. 
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ZCKaiser posted:The difference being that Ar Tonelico is at least trying to say something with its blatant metaphor, whereas as far as I'm aware "mana exchange" has basically always just been an excuse for fanservice. It's entirely because sex sells, and it's a way of getting stories that otherwise would have never seen the light of day onto the board. It's telling that once Fate became mainstream, they punted it out the window and only look back as a joke. In fact, later releases of the original visual novel have the scenes wholesale changed. Unfortunately, EXTRA was... a touch before that turning point. Materant fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Feb 9, 2022 |
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Archer's genuinely fun this game. At least, insofar as Fate/EXTRA can be fun...
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As much as Leo acts indifferent, there's still a tiny bit of tell that lets us know that he cared in some way about Julius, in that he let his mask slip for just a moment on how much he wants to kill us now.
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ArcMage posted:https://twitter.com/FomahlaultStar/status/1500258548520996864 I mean, fortunately Tamamo was exorcised from the sesshou-seki and reentered the cycle of reincarnation quite a long time ago, according to the legend. Hasn't stopped Fate fans in basically every circle from going "SHE'S FREE", though.
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Gatou/Ronnie were kinda unlikable shits, to be frank. I don't blame Hakuno for not committing them to memory like the first three, which she did actually care about killing.
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cdyoung posted:Rin thinks you're an idiot mage? It could be both, if we were running Archer! 
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As you can probably predict, there's some good dialogue on the heavy callback route. But we're a ways out from that yet. ...Honestly, Archer's probably the reason they even made a Rin route in the first place, given the plot just works so much better for Rani.
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The writers probably could have made something out of the heroine you don't choose being killed by Leo instead of us (and give us a very human motivation going into the final round: vengeance for our fallen friend), but we're forced to go through this hackneyed drama instead. It's probably the weakest week in the game, which isn't really an acceptable stumble when you're in the big leagues of the tournament, and killing off actual players in the plot...
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Honestly, Hakuno might already be trying to keep herself from realizing what she's going to have to do this week, just going off of the Master still being unknown despite Hakuno already knowing who it's going to be. It's not the first time Fate's pulled the don't realize it, don't realize it bit with regards to the character actually trying to do it.
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I don't think the Moon Cell gave him much of a choice on that one, sadly. For what it's worth, though, even after the Moon Cell determined he'd lost the fight, he still never dropped his stance until he was erased. He was a bit slumped, but he was still ready to throw down. Godspeed, Cu. You got your wish of having a Master you actually gel with for once.
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It's extremely hosed up to keep someone mentally suppressed, but really, Lu Bu. You'd barely be able to sleep because the dude's so infamous for loving up people he's working for.
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Arzaac posted:Holy poo poo Lu Bu. Caster's got all the tools she needs to actually deal with Lu Bu by this point, but this is part of why the game explicitly tells you to keep multiple save files, so you can go back and reassign some defense so you don't get obliterated by his skills. Saber and Archer are both far better at taking his punches than Caster, though, which is why he earned his reputation in the community as the Tamamo Killer.
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Yon posted:Archer Lu Bu is a particularly terrifying idea, between his crazy archery stunts and the probability that he'll have independent action to make it easier for him to get away with betraying his master, yikes. I dunno about that one. If there's one consistent about the Romance, it's that Lu Bu didn't get away with poo poo. All his betrayals were high profile, and basically the only thing that kept him from becoming probably Romance-era China's most terrifying bandit was the procession of dudes who thought "surely this shotgun with the barrel bent back towards me won't gently caress me up!" IIRC Cao Cao was on the verge of hiring him himself when Zhang Fei convinced him to just off him for his own good.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Well that's horrifying in many different ways. Would certainly be a way to go about the week now that we're at the apex. The rancor of the dead rising up to choke us and the path forward while we piece together how to deal with Gawain's... unique brand of horseshit.
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Our girl finally figured herself out enough to have poses with character!
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It'll be a far more interesting time for everyone involved if we ever get to experience CCC. It's a remarkable ride.
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Pyroi posted:Is Red Saber(Not to be confused with Saber of Red) the first of the Saberfaces? You would be correct. Even Carnival Phantasm (where Fate/EXTRA was more or less officially announced) made a bit out of confusing her with /stay night Saber.
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SoundwaveAU posted:The Last Encore dub translated Saber's form of address as "Performer" which I like the most personally. Which is sorta strange, because every other officially translated media featuring Red Saber's used Praetor as her form of address. The more I hear about Last Encore, the weirder it seems.
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She hasn't changed, she's just reining it in because she knows it's neither the time nor place to be as incandescent as possible.
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And now it's time for the inevitable F/SN history lesson the entirety of Archer's route is going to be. Because, really, what else are you going to talk about at this point?
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Cyouni posted:Note that Agility is the damage stabilization stat, so it makes sense that you have extreme damage variance problems if you dump it. On the other hand, there's basically no point in building it instead of just raising your min/max damage thresholds more. Maybe if it also handled skill priority, but that would make Caster a living nightmare at all times, not just early game. This is not a good stat system for customization and the game really needed to just have each Servant have their own stat tracks, is what I'm getting at.
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Yeah, despite all the setup required to get UBW running, when you manage to get it off the fight is just over. It feels way more satisfying to use than Nero's Golden Theater. ...As far as anything in this game is "satisfying," anyway.
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I always get hearts in my eyes when Archer starts surpassing Nero in pure output. Also, it's clear that Archer is the character they put the most effort into. I almost wonder if they started with his version of events in writing.
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