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Xaris posted:cars are good and helps marginalized bipoc elderly, dementia patients, and disabled people get around safely. not everyone can figure out a bus timeschedule and its pretty ableist to hate cars This maybe a joke but it is such a dumb take that it hurts my teeth. It's so so so so much easier for the elderly and disabled to use a properly functioning transit system than coordinate rides with whoever in their life owns a car. I've lived in places where transportation was nonexistent and pretty decent and the difference is having a social life, being independent, having some autonomy, feeling like a human, vs. Being stuck in your house marinating in your own sorrow because you can only justify begging rides to the doctors appointment. If I make it to old age I will do anything in my power to live some where I am not car dependant.
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Relin posted:cars are good. i dont want to make multiple grocery trips a week or carry everything in the heat/public transit, and all the good restaurants are several cities over where i live. yes high speed rail could help that but it'd still be a schlep, my friend in dc had to walk an hour to the bus to go to the train station every day drat look at this sad sack of poo poo who lives several cities from a good restaurant. Dead mall parking lots and dead cities and dead people who were taken in the prime of life by a moment of distraction are all a direct result of car culture and car culture is a direct result of Americans and their "I want to never be inconvenienced and gently caress the long term impacts and all other people." Don't say you'd like more green spaces. You got what you want. gently caress you.
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Aug 9, 2021 15:40
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Beartaco posted:I like my Toyota Corolla because I can and have lived out of it when I've needed to. Also driving is fun. It's a strange symptom of the American disease that living in a car is such a commonplace experience. We have Walmart parking lots instead of favelas. Invisible slums that leak oil full of people that can be conveniently ignored. Our acceptance of this misery is an indictment and the sentence is yet to be served.
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Aug 9, 2021 15:55
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I'm usually pretty hard to troll but this thread is such a honeypot for me there's no way I will be able to resist. Just remember... My bad posts are the fault of car culture and the garbage infrastructure that it perpetuates.
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Aug 9, 2021 15:58
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Relin posted:i think the dead mall is more from online ordering conglomerates but go off I think the parking lots were dead spaces from the moment a functioning ecosystem was bulldozed and paved but gently caress off.
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Aug 9, 2021 17:18
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ekuNNN posted:This is a really good youtube channel that talks about city planning and how cars are poo poo I had just watched the stroad episode and went to a city planning workshop last week and I was all. "The problem for both cyclists and car jerks is TOO MANY STROADS in this drat city". And one of the staffers was like "omg I know!" And everyone else was like "what's a stroad?" And the staffer explained it and everyone even the the car jerks was like "yeah stroads suck!" And then they all stood up and clapped the end. But seriously folks show up to every possible workshop, visioning session, focus group and volunteer on campaigns and make your city councillors know your name. Ain't poo poo gonna be done on anything but the municipal level to reduce car dependancy but in the city there are battles to be fought and won.
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Aug 11, 2021 00:47
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miniscule12 posted:this but unironically gently caress you Also the only good car hellotoothpaste posted:Let’s get this back in here
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Aww hell yeah! "Hey buddy can I get a jump?" "Sorry, I don't have a car" "Nah nah I need you to like jump on my car" "Putt putt putt vroooom"
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Aug 11, 2021 04:53
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raspurtin posted:Phase 1 – get rid of all 2-stroke engines. All of them, in the next 3 years. gently caress your dirt bike, get a real hobby. and gently caress the leaf blowers. I don't really know poo poo about what the actual policy was but the last time I was in china for work (2017) all of those Honda cub based motorbikes and the like that used to pretty much all over Shanghai were straight up gone and it was just e-bikes everywhere. One of our Chinese fixers said the government had banned them and so everyone went out and bought e-bikes. Feels like pretty much any country could do the same without all that much disruption.
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Aug 12, 2021 16:21
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Relin posted:a habit i picked up during quarantine was just driving around aimlessly checking out the environs. nothing like a relaxing late night drive with some cool tunes on This but on two wheels and pedals.
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Aug 12, 2021 20:19
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Some dingus wrote a song that says "they paved paradise to put up a parking lot" fifty-one loving years ago and americans spent the time since just paving more paradise and putting up more parking lots so that they could drive their cars around like total dipshits with the radio on listing to "they paved paradise to put up a parking lot" on the way to the mall so they can shop for lovely jeans that fit their fat asses while the music that gets piped in plays "they paved paradise to put up a parking lot" Anyhow, that'll be one ticket to the tree museum please.
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Aug 13, 2021 02:37
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KidDynamite posted:I like driving cars on race tracks but I think we should do all we can to get rid of them for everyday living. I feel the same. Racing is fun and cool. The speed is thrilling and the thought that goes into selecting equipment and setup and addressing complex engineering problems is deep and interesting. I remember posting with you in AI where I pretty much hung out exclusively until I crunk pung many years ago. But here's something neat. Cars are not the only thing that can be raced. That itch you love to scratch tearing around an autocross track can be scratched on mountain bike singletrack or a soapbox derby race or a road bike race or sailboat race and on and on. People race freaking anything. It ain't gotta be cars. And we are willing to compromise. The race cars can be the last ones we throw on the burn pile.
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Aug 13, 2021 05:25
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KidDynamite posted:def need to try some mountain biking. Qft I have been a road and urban cyclist for years and just started mountain biking recently because I thought I was too much of a whimp and I would get hurt or it was too expensive. Turns out that it's a massive amount of fun even if you are a whimp riding a cheap old steel frame lava dome from the 90s and I am kicking myself that it took halfway into my 30s to give it a try.
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Aug 13, 2021 23:48
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:yes, this is the miata thread. post a pic of your miata (na i hope) Traded my Miata for a Miyata (Bike joke you squares prolly wouldn't get)
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Aug 25, 2021 15:56
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I'm about to head out on a 3 day bike trip in a couple of minutes. If some car driving gently caress head runs me over I want my last post to be in this thread
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Aug 27, 2021 20:47
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Leroy Diplowski posted:I'm about to head out on a 3 day bike trip in a couple of minutes. If some car driving gently caress head runs me over I want my last post to be in this thread Didn't die and only had one driver yell at me. Not bad for 220km. Still hate cars tho.
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Aug 31, 2021 19:41
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Polo-Rican posted:This is a feature not a bug! drivers used to be much more visible in older cars... the first cars were essentially convertibles. As time has gone on, car design has evolved to make the driver more anonymous. when's the last time you saw a convertible for sale? Back in my car driving days (may the goddess forgive me) there was a period where I daily drove a 1979 fiat spider convertible in the deep south. I can't be bothered to dig up a pic but they make a Miata look big. It was amazing how many people would just roll down their windows and start chatting at a stoplight.
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Sep 22, 2021 17:49
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docbeard posted:Just wait til the thread finds out that sometimes people get hit by trains. Oh god when I was in grade 5 a car tried to swerve through a train crossing in our town and got hit by the train and flung into the sidewalk where it killed one of my classmates and like half of their family. Been terrified of cars running railroad crossing ever since. Like even today I stop on my bike hundreds of meters back when a train is going through.
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Sep 22, 2021 18:54
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actionjackson posted:lol u think greyhounds bark I've only ever hit one pedestrian and it was the worst bike wreck I've ever had. This 300lb guy was on the sidewalk and I was on the road coming down a hill on my way to class. Out of nowhere he just stepped out into the road right in front of me. No crosswalk or anything. I tried to dodge and glanced one handle bar off his shoulder sending me into the curb at about 40km/h. Damage was bent frame, tacod wheel, busted derailleur, ripped pants and road rash all over hands, legs and forearms.
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Sep 22, 2021 19:11
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indigi posted:good, you shouldn’t have hit him If I was a car he'd be dead
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indigi posted:ok, you shouldn’t hit him if you’re a car either Agreed, and also if I was a train or a pram or bowling ball or a porpoise or anything else with mass and velocity.
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Sep 22, 2021 19:41
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So if I'm reading this right the thread consensus is ban cars and give every pedestrian a bicycle so there are only cyclists. If you have no legs you get a handbike and if you have no arms or legs I'll cart you around in a pedicab. Also only the BMX punks around here blast their Bluetooth speakers from their bikes but it's so obnoxious that I actually love it. Society has utterly failed these children and their only recourse is to make a complete nuisance of themselves rolling around poisoning the air with mumble rap and Billie eilish. Anyone who tells them to stop has to reckon with me.
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Sep 23, 2021 05:49
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Mayor Dave posted:Mass transit alongside bikes tho So you're saying like a bunch of those crazy 20 person beer bikes but without the beer because it's 8am on a workday for chrissakes. And then maybe rail bikes too because we gotta be inclusive of train loving people. Don't need boat bikes because sails and oars have been invented. Ok I don't think I'm missing anything.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Microcars for the elderly and disabled are ok imo I'm sorry this is the I hate cars thread the justify cars for your pet edge cases thread is probably in D&D or something. The old can ride in my pedicab with the quadruple amputees. Tho I will say some of the olds in my life have an amazing ability to keep riding. I have three neighbors over 75 yrs old that ride daily tho one of them just swapped out for an ebike because we live in hilly semi rural area and she was struggling on this Raleigh mixtie that she had been riding since the 70s probably.
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This is me. I flamboyantly signal every turn. It's kind of fun and part of my evil plan to not get run over.
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Sep 28, 2021 23:58
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Animal Friend posted:treat every car as an enemy combatant imo I treat cars like rhinos. They are herbavores so don't really need to kill me to survive but behave erratically, can't see more that 4 feet, are easily enraged, and can flatten me without noticing.
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Sep 29, 2021 05:21
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There's a 95 integra in nice shape for a really good deal near me. I do not need a car... But I want a car. God dangit
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i say swears online posted:if this thread is good for anything it's convincing people to buy decades-old sports cars as a commuter/everyday vehicle I know what the heck is wrong with us. Sometimes I feel like a recovering caraholic. I don't drive a car anymore but the nostalgia is still there tempting.
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Dolphin posted:ride your bike on the sidewalk. risk of getting pancaked on the road is too high and Americans don't walk anywhere anyway Wrong
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Jokerpilled Drudge posted:ebikes are good. never forget the true enemy, cars I'm too cool for e-bikes but they're fine for other people.
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Radirot posted:anyone here like bicycles? Hell yeah brother
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HAIL eSATA-n posted:you ride a bike. drunk riding is fine and in fact fun Drunk riding is fun but also super loving dangerous. It makes you way less good at avoiding getting killed by a car. We can only drunk ride when we have driven off the scourge of cars.
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No way I'm gonna read that post but I'm totally down for 25kmph speeds. It's like a perfectly fine speed go like 5km or less. So now let's just let all just make the domes 5km across and we've solved it. Good job goons
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Petanque posted:i hadn't seen this before but goddamn this came out nearly 18 years ago?! When he mentioned Iraq I was like: "drat been a minute since I heard that name" Still really good and I think he has a lot of good advice. I really appreciate the scathing indictment of consumerism
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I'm reading a pretty fun book on the history of the automobile and there's some pretty choice quotes from the early 1900s. "Kind and considerate people who, as soon as they have a gas pedal under their foot, become sized by an automotive frenzy" I also learned that even race cars are bad. The first auto race ever killed 7 dogs and injured a cyclist. Leroy Diplowski has issued a correction as of 06:45 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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Back in the days before the model T only the very wealthy could afford cars. They would take their cars and go ripping through the countryside killing poor folks chickens and children without really giving too much if abfuck. If you can afford to buy a car you can afford to pay off peasants. People pretty quickly got fed up and motorists in the us and Europe would occasionally face farmers hurling rocks at them as they went past. This prompted motoring publications to recommend travelling with a pistol to fend off the poor's if they object to the damage you are doing to their livelihoods Cars as the object of class resentment is demonstrated in this quote from Woodrow Wilson in 1906. "Nothing has spread socialistic feeling in this country more than the use of automobiles. To the countryman they are a picture of arrogance and wealth with all it's independence and carelessness."
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A nation of people who tolerate horrible cities will tolerate horrible policing, horrible economic policy and horrible bigotry, horrible environment collapse and is inevitably a horrible nations. The suburban experiment of building cities for the car is are the root of all America's problems. If there was a political party that had no other platform than making cities not suck all of my apathy would blow away in the wind I would support them wholeheartedly.
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actionjackson posted:you're right America didn't have any serious problems before the 1950s I know right, now let me take a big sip of coffee and read this Upton Sinclair book. But seriously it feels like so many cities are just a microcosm of the same mindsets that make living in America such a drag. Nobody cares about the cities, nobody cares about the country, it's all such a fuckup stew. Anyhow, I'm just pissy because I'm trying to plan a bike tour and roads that aren't designed to kill me do not exist.
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Xaris posted:hell yeah. our neighborhood/street is known as a "destination" street for no apparent reason but we had ours and the one going adjacent to it blocked off and we got like 1000 kids. i whole lotta suvs driving around to here to look for a spot to park or something, idk. just park 5 blocks over where there's plenty of parking and completely dead-streets, and avoid the giant hotspot of kids out trick or treating??? Someone had one of these in our hood and can confirm it was a big hit with the kids. Halloween is my fave because I just walk around in the middle of the road and the cars actually stop. Of course this only applies to residential streets, but I'll take what I can get.
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lobster shirt posted:judges and juries, 99% drivers all, are insanely lenient with this poo poo because they don't want to set a precedent of someone getting punished for negligently operating heavy machinery Honestly it doesn't even make sense to throw the book at these people. Harsher punishments won't suddenly make people better drivers. Being a "good" driver and expecting that to somehow contribute to safer roads is like being a "green" consumer and expecting that to end climate change. It's a systems and infrastructure problem. The person in that article should never drive again but that also applies to millions of people who haven't killed anyone yet but roll the dice on a daily basis. Alternatives have to be put into place and barriers to living car free have to be removed or mitigated. One could argue that legal protection for drivers is a barrier to living without a car but I feel like focusing on individual responsibility moves the blame and focus away from those with the power to influence or block change.
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