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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
https://ridl.io/en/russia-s-genz-progressive-or-reactionary/ was a fun read to dispel notions of "well, at least the [Russian] kids are alright"

lol wut that jump in the "men are just better at business" graph

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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

buglord posted:

Kind of a good previous post to work on because I was curious about homosexuality/sexual minorities in Eastern Europe.

I’ll start by saying that I know little about EE with regards to sexual minorities other than Poland having the anti LGBT zones, Russia lawmakers equating homosexuality with pedophilia or sexual perversion, Chechen camps.

I’m casting a real wide net here, but how much of this starts from the top and trickles down? How much of the population of Eastern European counties actually care about LGBT rights? Again forgive the clumsiness of the question, but if anyone has input on it. I’d like to travel over there at some point in the future but not if I’m gonna be tortured and murdered.

There's a decent amount of coverage from region-focused media:

https://www.calvertjournal.com/tags/show/tag/lgbtq
https://eurasianet.org/search?keywords=LGBT

I wouldn't say it's particularly top-down thing: homophobia isn't new and there are plenty of populations within the region that have large conservative religious segments. The degree to which the governments weaponize this into policy to win the support of that segment varies considerably.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Nenonen posted:

But what about toilet paper? Are people hoarding tp yet?

surely they have a stash of soviet toilet paper just in case

i am amazed how that stuff has persisted

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
drat yo, they killed echo moskvy

https://twitter.com/meduza_en/status/1499286778234253317

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
https://twitter.com/SarahNEmerson/status/1499814921139224578

echoes of Duma members posting to their Telegram channels while it was "blocked"

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

with a rebel yell she QQd posted:

Where is the grechka recipe?

take groats, add water, heat

imo the non-toasted variety tastes much better, idk why toasted became the default. then again, baked milk is also a thing, so maybe the region is just like "BAKE EVERYTHING" when it comes to food

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
Belarusian orthography was codified much more recently (1917) than Russian (loving forever ago), so the linguists took the opportunity to write vowels as they're actually pronounced according to akanye rules. Unstressed о in Russian is pronounced more or less the same as а, so the final vowel is the same whether you're using Лукашенко or Лукашэнка, but the Russian version doesn't write the shifted о as it's actually pronounced. less sure what happened for the е/э split. Ukrainian doesn't have this, so Poroshenko actually does have an "o" sound at the end.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
now i cant stop thinking about the somewhat unfortunate ukrainian transliteration of Гоголь

yes, those are different phonemes, but still

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

alex314 posted:

Cyrillic is the superior way of writing, you just write what you hear. No need to figure out what foreign spelling style you need to use. Or if it's English George or French George...

проста пиши то, што ты слушаешь! как лигко, мой друк!

lamenting the loss of lipton of all things is extremely russian

https://twitter.com/SovietSergey/status/1502764505926877190

worst thing about visiting in the past was that all the actually good asian bottled tea brands were nowhere to be found

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
The office for life thing was (ostensibly) only for Nazarbayev. Whether Tokayev would have decided "actually, nah, imma just keep goin" at the end of his term limit had the protests not occurred is a question we'll never know the answer to.

This is proposing having actual separation of powers, since currently the legislature and judiciary are functionally subordinate to the executive.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
so there was some joke image about russians adopting the "Z" sign as a pro-war thing because nazis are too incompetent to draw a swastika and well, love finds a way

https://twitter.com/aktroitsky/status/1504902547794018306

i am impressed they managed to gently caress that up, like what. how.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
https://ridl.io/en/will-russia-cancel-its-next-elections/

> This year, up to half of regional capitals that face elections in September have planned to switch to a completely majoritarian system.

i love how local russian electoral politics are a weirdly relevant thing even though they have no reason to be. the machinations to show that the party in power deserves its station short of just saying "gently caress you, we win" are bizarre

Qtotonibudinibudet fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Mar 20, 2022

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
holy poo poo, they finally killed novaya gazeta https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/03/28/my-priostanavlivaem-rabotu

goin out with a bang at least

https://twitter.com/GraceCuddihy/status/1508560817649860609

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
do the VVC have ridiculous $50k cosplay outfits like the Académie Française

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

a podcast for cats posted:

The tldr is that the nationalists are still loving mad at Leonid Ragozin and Re:Baltica for that Azov article they collaborated on a few years back and have been trying to cancel Ragozin and R:B ever since.

i never knew quite what this was, only had heard about it vaguely or seen people getting in twitter spats with Ragozin, despite his seeming pretty normal. have now looked it up and oh, lol, that makes a lot more sense now.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
i struggle to understand how none of the lower four tenants havent kicked one of those poles out yet

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
we never got the concrete church we deserved



not pictured: glowing red eye beams

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
imma continue to use this thread for discussion of eastern "europe" for lack of a central asia thread

> In July, the president’s office announced plans to build a city called Asman – Persian for “highest heaven” – in Japarov’s native Issyk-Kul region. As conceived by architects, this city would sprawl over 4,000 hectares in the shape of a komuz, a string instrument commonly used in Central Asian folk music, house 700,000 people and serve as a model of environmental harmony.

how can you look at astana and think, hmm, yes, this is a good and cool ci--oh right, it's japarov

in actual eastern europe discussion, does anyone know of any good orthodox slavonic choral hymn recordings on music streaming platforms? i cannot seem to find any and i suddenly desire this

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
https://eurasianet.org/uzbekistan-denies-russian-claim-it-violated-afghanistans-airspace

> The denial followed a report by Russia’s Sputnik news agency which suggested that drones spotted flying over the northern Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif, 80 kilometers from the border with Uzbekistan, were Uzbek-manufactured.

in "who cares who's violating Afghan airspace" news, "yes we cares" by Sputnik, in Russia's efforts to see who they can piss off further in their remaining cohort of lukewarm nominal allies

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
Shushkevich is dead. he never did find that lost original copy of the Belavezha accords, rip

https://twitter.com/HannaLiubakova/status/1521734003795144704

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

FishBulbia posted:

Do we have any Georgians? I'm ending up in the land of the Golden fleece for a bit. I only speak English and Russian, so it's going to be interesting to see how their ESL is there as I don't wanna get stabbed to death and don't know how well I can pick up the martian dialect of sumerian. Will post khachapuri

english is largely fine for day to day stuff, it's a country that runs on tourism money and has a language nobody else speaks; english is a necessity. Russian is in the weird position like many post-Soviet states where younger people are less and less likely to speak it, but it was also pretty widely available.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Xarn posted:

Do people actually watch Eurovision?

tell me you're straight without telling me you're straight

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Morrow posted:

Kazakhstan wants to be in eurovision, so...

i welcome this

if israel, azerbaijan, and loving australia are fair game, we may as well accept whatever bad gay camp music kazakhstan has to offer as well

plus azerbaijan needs more oil money bribing the juries competition

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

cinci zoo sniper posted:

That’s a very unfortunate Twitter crop for this joke. :laffo:

despite this somehow i already knew what was gonna be in the clickthrough :D

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

cinci zoo sniper posted:

:actually: TV Rain is a Latvian station now.

it's not like they had the option of remaining a Russian station :D

im (sorta, i guess i shouldn't be after they first got kicked off the air in 2014ish) surprised they're still going. guess i should get around to watching https://www.fckthisjob.net/

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Doctor Teeth posted:

I guess I'll ask here since this isn't really related to the war itself:

What's up with the transliterations of Severodonetsk I've been seeing? As far as I can tell it's "Сєвєродоне́цьк" in both Ukrainian and Russian but I've seen it transliterated as Severodonetsk, Sieverodonetsk and I think even Sievierodonetsk.

Sievierodonetsk and Sieverodonetsk are Ukrainian transliterations (not sure why there are two), Severodonetsk is Russian.

for reasons i cannot fathom (complicated historical vowel shift and orthography stuff who knows), Ukrainian uses є (in "Сєвєр") to represent /jɛ/, whereas Russian uses е (in "Север") to represent /je/ (these are very similar vowels--basically the difference between Australian and American pronunciations of "bed"), whereas for the non-palatalized vowel, Ukrainian has е for /ɛ/ and Russian has э for /e/

it's approximately the "ye" from English "yes" in both the Ukrainian and Russian spellings, but the languages have different official latin transliteration standards. Russian transliteration does not use any indication that е is palatalized (it does for ю/yu and я/ya) and just uses "e" for both е and э--possibly because э is pretty uncommon. Ukrainian transliteration does, and uses "ie" for є and "e" for е. idk why they chose this. it seems like "ye" would be a much better choice since "ie" can be read as multiple syllables and Ukrainian doesn't even have ы (which Russian transliterates with a standalone "y").

there's some extra complication where Russian furthermore changes the vowel sound depending on the position relative to the stressed syllable, which Ukrainian does not, but Russian transliteration ignores this (Belarusian transliteration doesn't!) and uses the same latin letter regardless.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
how can we make this happen https://twitter.com/Bartaway/status/1534702554613006336

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
kazakh dude in a tank top, man bun, and pixelated hitler mustache sure is an aesthetic

https://twitter.com/OlgaNYC1211/status/1539086797518655488

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
they pretty much immediately walked back those changes though. extending term limits and performing a magical reset of Mirziyoyev's term count because terms under previous constitutions don't count was the far more important goal. realistically it's still Uzbekistan and the authorities aren't going to entertain any actual attempt at secession, so that can safely be ignored with the other inconvenient parts of the constitution

protests have maybe died down, though probably more from heavy security presence than the amendment reversal

https://twitter.com/joannalillis/status/1543585612468572160

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
when you get down to it, it's a bunch of rice and meat slow cooked in meat fat with some additional veg thrown in. you can't really screw it up.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
thinking about non-traditional dishes, someone must have made olivier with ranch instead of mayo at some point

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
this is a crime against music but

https://twitter.com/michaelidov/status/1551961792091267072

i cant help but hear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn88hl1Iz64&t=42s

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Doctor Malaver posted:

Delicious cuisine :confused:

while not ethnically russian, there are ubiquitous and delicious shwarma and khinkali/khachapuri places!

i like that there's no link or whatever at the end, iirc it is (and presumably remains) actually quite difficult to immigrate to russia unless you're from the FSU, isn't it?

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1553784578611023874

split between the immune disorder bit being a bit of misdirection and donning hazmat suits just being a standard precaution any time a prominent Russian suddenly falls ill abroad at this point

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

Mr. Apollo posted:

I wonder if he still had all his faculties, and if so, how he felt about Russia sliding back into essentially a dictatorship. The reports say he died after a "severe and prolonged illness" so I wonder if it was something like dementia or Alzheimer's.

boy do i have the documentary for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hyjup52Em0

kind of a poo poo trailer but whatever the movie's good

edit: what a mood

https://twitter.com/Peter__Leonard/status/1564722174019117056

Qtotonibudinibudet fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Aug 31, 2022

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
following the january events, tokayev is definitely making good on his promise to open kazakh political society and allow other parties to compete in the coming electiHOLD UP not quite ready to do that, to prepare for the coming electoral reforms he wants a renewed mandate from the people in the form of a snap election for a new 5y term and hey if he wins that snap election i guess that right there's the mandate and he'll definitely proceed with the announced reforms

https://meduza.io/en/news/2022/09/01/kazakh-president-kassym-jomart-tokayev-to-seek-second-term-in-snap-election

no, central asian executives haven't run this exact playbook before and there won't be a need for another renewed mandate and continued reforms before the reforms take effect in another 5 years, pinky swear

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
okay i may be high but i am dying

https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1568921971894755333

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

slurm posted:

Hopefully someone turns out to be knowledgeable about these things, it's remarkable to me to see two Turkic countries armed with Turkish weapons going on the warpath instantly like this. Bayraktar as emblem of a vigorous pan-Turkism?

Pan-Turkism hasn't been particularly relevant in the Central Asian states after independence (it was, sort of, a big deal immediately prior to the formation of the USSR). Turkey had attempted to make overtures to that effect, but didn't succeed much (and has since regretted some of their initial attempts after domestic power shifts. A shared post-Soviet culture was more prevalent (though there's also been a resurgence of interest in Islam) and economic ties with Russia were far more relevant than ties with any new pan-Turkic community, which are further hindered by ongoing disagreements with other Turkic nations in the region. The Ukraine war has shaken that up a fair bit, but it's still too early to say how that will affect relations within the region. Turkey's willingness to sell weapons systems to whomever (other than the Armenians) isn't irrelevant, but the fracturing of ties with Russia is pushing the Central Asian states to engage more with everyone else--they've also been talking more with China, Iran, and Afghanistan/Pakistan, all of which share closer geography than Turkey.

That all said, border skirmishes in the Fergana region aren't exactly uncommon and aren't likely to lead to war. The borders are a mess, unmarked, and have no shortage of idiot teenagers on guard duty.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

khwarezm posted:

It will be a sad appendix to the Ukrainian war if it ends up being the case that one of the dominos it set in motion is the ethnic cleansing of Armenians once again.

gently caress at this point I feel like the best case scenario is for Russia to abandon all the occupied territory in Ukraine and declare a ceasefire and send all those troops down to the Caucasus, which of course is an absurd fantasy scenario that will never happen.

technically Armenia is party to the CSTO and can invoke its collective defense agreement, which will presumably result in Russia saying "sorry, nah" again. Kazakhstan already did, apparently confusing a bunch of people on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/ReidStan/status/1570148249075601410

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Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
tangential to the USSR keeping the peace thing, i was reading some stuff and could not for the life of me find a source (in english, anyway) speaking authoritatively as to exactly why Georgia was the one non-Baltic SSR that didn't sign the Alma-Ata Protocol (though IIRC i did find something on Google Books that was about to say before the preview ended), but all the other info i can find about Georgia at the time strongly suggests it was because a nationalist militia had started marching into Tbilisi the same day, and the de jure government was busy hiding in a basement.

granted, the USSR not keeping the peace in late December 1991 isn't exactly a surprise, but i still found it amusing.

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