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Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Woe betide the first birds to try land on Igor's crops.

Between the number of Tors and Pantsirs captured and the people and means that did the capturing, it seems to me that we should start calling mobile anti-aircraft systems "Ukrainian Scarecrows."

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Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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Radical 90s Wizard posted:

I saw this in the other thread, and i can't believe they actually even attempt this :psyduck: Seems like an absolute recipe for all kinds of clusterfucks to add to the poo poo they already have.

This is assuming they actually find 16k Syrians willing to fight for them (or perhaps not so willing-- I could see Assad emptying out his jails in aid of this but that too would undoubtedly turn into a massive clusterfuck).

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Sep 3, 2003

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It seems like their cooks had a choice between tuber and not tuber.

McNally posted:

That was sort of the point of adopting it in the first place.

This made me chuckle.

Fearless fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Mar 13, 2022

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Sep 3, 2003

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cult_hero posted:

Also given that Ukraine was traditionally known as the "bread basket" of the Soviet Union.... In other words, how are grain futures doing?

Well given that Ukrainian farmers are actively engaged in an off-season armoured vehicle harvest, I would say that that is a good sign for Ukrainian wheat assuming the farmers can deal with the accompanying pest problem.

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Sep 3, 2003

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Given the Russian government's recent track record there is a non-zero chance it will be discovered that the arsonist is actually a Russian-born employee of the embassy.

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Sep 3, 2003

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Cimber posted:

exactly. Nestle were scumbags before this. Making babies in subsahara Africa dependent on them?

Don't forget the exploitation of child labour too!

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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FrozenVent posted:

Hush lightpole / blyatov y’all haven’t tested that check valve in like eight years and you ain’t even Russian

Strong HMCS Preserver energy in this sentence.

Fearless fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Mar 25, 2022

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Sep 3, 2003

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I think the only movie from the Iron Eagle series that I ever watched was the utterly ludicrous third one. Even my nine or ten year old mind thought that movie was bullshit.

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Sep 3, 2003

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McNally posted:

I don't get it, didn't Russia give Ukraine enough tanks?

Many of the farmers haven't handed them over. When the rasputitsa passes in a few weeks, they intend to really take the fight to the groundhog menace.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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Alan Smithee posted:

a time loop movie but the russians keep getting slammed by munitions over and over and dont learn anything

Isn't that already the case?

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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Panzer of the Lake for our modern age.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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bulletsponge13 posted:

Oh poo poo.
Moldovan EOD were loving terrifying. They knew one formula- "P=Plenty". They once blew up 40lbs of C4 in a ditch so they didn't have to return it.

They launched a ZU-23 barrel over 500 meters like a loving spear.

Also, not so good at English. Or radios.
Really good at using lots of explosives.

I mean I'm a mental health professional and not an explosives kind of person but it seems to me that for all of the things it is important for EOD to be good at, "using lots of explosives" would be at or near the top of the list.

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Sep 3, 2003

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A.o.D. posted:

Some people might prefer that EOD be good at 'using the exact correct amount of explosives'

Yes, but aren't explosives used to blow up things and so therefore "lots" is always the correct amount?

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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My sense of things was that the mania for rigid discipline and superficial efficiency in the Victorian RN had its most damaging effects on the ability of subordinates to adapt and improvise as circumstances changed. Instead, they became unthinking conduits for the orders of their superiors. This led to the loss of HMS Victoria in a collision that multiple senior officers saw coming and nobody saw fit to correct for fear of pissing off the admiral in charge.

The sinking occurred in the Mediterranean, so if I recall correctly Victoria's water tight doors were open for ventilation and not leaking because of excessive polish or something equally silly.

But I could be wrong too. This is not my area of expertise.

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Sep 3, 2003

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Terrifying Effigies posted:

Using a Tsarist salvage ship to try and recover a piece of the True Cross / secret nuclear warheads from a sunken Soviet-era missile cruiser during an international crisis is some Dirk Pitt-rear end poo poo.

All we need is air support provided by a Ford Tri-motor and we've hit peak Cussler.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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Kesper North posted:

how is he going to drop the ISS on us now

He still can, they just won't be able to learn anything from the experience.

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Sep 3, 2003

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GiP routinely yields the most refreshingly vile posts.

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Sep 3, 2003

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On the other hand, the OP figured out how to devote their amorous ambitions to an MRE, which is less harmful behaviour than that of a lot of CF generals and admirals.

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Sep 3, 2003

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A.o.D. posted:

That has to be rock salt in those bags, right?

No, it is real meth it was just seized looted from some recently vacated FSB 5th directorate desks, along with all of the PPNS.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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psydude posted:

I watched a video of a gun team running an M777 in Afghanistan full tilt and it looked like the most exhausting poo poo ever.

As I understand it, 155mm guns (or similar calibres) are more or less the limit at which humans can load those guns without mechanical assistance but I could be horribly mistaken and I own that.

Regardless, feeding those guns for a prolonged amount of time, or having to setup, fire a couple of salvos and then break down in a godawful hurry to relocate would also be an immense drain.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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zoux posted:

Is it troublesome to like Sheen as Lee, Berringer as Longstreet, and Lang as Pickett?

I think you can enjoy their performances and Gettysburg as a movie while also acknowledging that it has glaring, terrible inaccuracies and a disturbing tendency to whitewash the virulent racism of the Confederacy.

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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That Works posted:

This is the best version imo

https://youtu.be/-OxK4lPRoww

Wasn't that a deliberate gently caress you after some kind of Russian fuckery that affected Egypt?

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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bulletsponge13 posted:

I loved the Iraqi people. I loved the culture, the food, everything. I hated what was happening, but you can only do so much as a kid addicted to combat and at the lowest level of a war run by businessmen.

I yearn to go back. I can still remember the way to shura; I still remember half the alleys and unlabeled roads that ran through Al Bayaa and Am Sadiya. I still remember being welcomed when I was an Invader, an interloper. I remember how forgiving the people were that we were stuck into a impossible situation. That stupid little camp we lived in, where the kids would throw rocks at us while we poo poo, where they'd laugh as we angrily chased them. That stupid little camp was the first place that ever felt like home to me.

I remember being told through literature and words, that when you go to war, you don't get to come home again. That war inherently changes you in a way that skews your world. What they don't say is sometimes that home is the war and once you leave, the spell is broken. Those walls decorated with the debris of martial art, earth toned and warm becomes just a place you used to live, your first apartment that burned down, now a different shoe in the same footprint.

I miss the war. I miss combat. But more than all that, I miss Iraq.

I hope that there is a time where you find yourself in a place where you're ready and interested in writing a book about your experience.

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Sep 3, 2003

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bulletsponge13 posted:

"Now he's just an old man that no one believes
Says he's a gunfighter, the last of the breed..."

I've had a few people say the same. I just don't get it. I'm just an old man who gets kicks of spicy memories from a youth spent on an edge I never saw.

I don't think I did much interesting, or worth reading about outside of some fun and nostalgic anecdotes. I treated war as a live fire larp. On my end, I spent my entire life in pursuit of a craft that can't be mastered, to learn lessons I can't teach, to do a job I can't do.

On the contrary, I think your insights on the mind of someone that went to war and has subsequently spent a lot of time making sense of what happened to them and what their place is in the world is very much something that is relevant, unique and interesting.

Speaking from the perspective of a practising mental health professional, the journey and means by which people heal and grow in the aftermath of an experience like war is tremendously interesting, far moreso than the operational histories or other forms of traditional military history. But it can also be true that sometimes we do things that truly only make sense to ourselves and in the context of our own lives and there simply aren't the words to fully explain the why of that to another person. I think the work you've put in to understanding what has happened to you is remarkable, but it's also ok if you don't want to write that out, in other words.

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Sep 3, 2003

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shame on an IGA posted:

Ukranian dominance of the media war continues to amaze they are so good at this

https://twitter.com/BackAndAlive/status/1526137804073406464?s=20&t=xoFcHEnn2gHF_iDU0ZO_QQ

It's easier too when your people are doing photogenic things that you can freely share on social media, as opposed to crimes against humanity.

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Sep 3, 2003

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

What's going to happen is that at some point Ukraine will face the same situation the Russians faced around kyiv: is it worth invading a civilian city?

And the Ukrainians will probably go no and opt for a seige instead and we will have a new frozen conflict.

I don't see negotiations achieving anything because the Russians can't be trusted

This presupposes that 1) the Russian army can be convinced to dig in and hold for a protracted city fight, and 2) that the civilian populace really wants Russia there after all the forced disappearances, conscription and miscellaneous war crimes. That so many of the "volunteers" in the Donbas are issued ancient trash and assigned Chechen blockers to "motivate" them to fight does not suggest to me that the populace is overly thrilled or energized to become a part of Russia, and Russia certainly doesn't view them as reliable.

With morale being the shits like it is for most Russian units, which already seem to be badly battered composites, I can't see whatever is driven into a city after losing the fight in the countryside being able or willing to mount much more than a token resistance. Not an expert, mind so I could very easily be completely and totally wrong. I'm just not so sure that the Russian Army is capable of sustaining a brutal siege defence.

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Hieronymous Alloy posted:

That's fair but also unpredictable and it wouldn't require a lot of defenders to make offensive building to building war impracticable, because the Ukrainians have to actually avoid civilian casualties. They can't just shell everything into smithereens. Total collapse and retreat would certainly be the Ukrainian goal though.

Worth pointing out that the Ukrainian army would almost certainly be much more amenable to allowing civilians to evacuate the city than their Russian counterparts, who have actively striven to keep a populace captive for easier war crimin'. I do agree that the Ukrainians can't just batter their own city to smithereens, but I think the primary hazard to a civilian populace in this situation is the Russians using them as human shields or just getting (extra) spiteful and shooting at fleeing civilians (or infiltrating their own saboteurs into those masses).

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

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Pikehead posted:

Is it even possible to demine and then escort any ships through that environment?

Ignoring what happens if the demining is successful, I'm not sure I can see Russia wanting to allow the movement of ships.

If it does go ahead though then it's the biggest middle finger yet from Europe/America - essentially risking european and american lives and ships for Ukrainian commerce.

Given Ukraine's importance as a grain exporter and the emerging shortages of grain in the developing world, it's about more than just commerce-- there is a major potential humanitarian crisis brewing.

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bulletsponge13 posted:

The most famous example is the Hedgerow cutters on the Sherman in the Normandy break out. Tanks couldn't get through the Hedgerow without exposing their tummy to Panzerfausts and whatnot.

Then some farm kid remembered Pappy's tractor, and grabbed a welder and hedgehog, and got to work. It allowed the tanks to pretty much go straight through and ripping holes in the thick cover. Within 3 days, every Sherman had one. A German tank commander remarked that the tactics changed overnight, and he was shocked at such a quickly fielded modification, and was reported as saying to the effect of "It would have taken the Heer 6 months to look at the proposal. It would have been 3 years before my tanks had them.

CAAT gear is another example. When the Germans deployed their acoustic homing torpedoes during the Battle of the Atlantic and once the threat had been identified, some artificers in the RCN dockyards in Halifax cobbled together a collection of scrap metal pipes that would clang together while being towed behind a corvette or destroyer and act as an acoustic decoy. An example was provided to the USN, which didn't bother to analyze the design beyond copying it down to the very bolts being used and then threw it into rapid mass production with a speed and volume that only the United States could ever achieve, and through this those acoustic torpedoes were made far less dangerous.

The turnaround from figuring out what the threat was to having a working solution entering production was a whopping 17 days. I'd argue that in addition to an absolutely unparalleled logistical capacity backed by a titanic industrial base, the ability to rapidly assess the usefulness of an idea or technology at a crisis point and then move it quickly into implementation/production is a particular American genius.

Fearless fucked around with this message at 21:17 on May 25, 2022

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The 64th Motor Rifles was the unit alleged to be responsible for the massacre of civilians in Bucha, right?

If so, it sounds like a great many of the perpetrators discovered that what goes around comes around.

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Sep 3, 2003

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psydude posted:

But the Russians are fighting more like the Imperial Guard.

They certainly don't seem to be enjoying themselves like orks would.

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Sep 3, 2003

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Is HIMARS the one that can deploy loitering munitions that will make it much more difficult for the Russians to concentrate force?

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Sep 3, 2003

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A.o.D. posted:

sub standard 40+ year old gear that is only going to rise in cost as it becomes more scarce.

But it's all Canada's got!!

:canada:

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Sep 3, 2003

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TCD posted:

Wasn't problem for Japan before.

It was for the people who weren't Japanese though

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Sep 3, 2003

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So does this look like Russia is moving all of its pre-positioned ammo from Belarus to possibly make up for shortfalls closer to Donetsk and Luhansk to anyone else? If it is, it looks like the Russians are abandoning any further attempts for another grab at Kyiv.

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Sep 3, 2003

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orange juche posted:

A-10 defenders would shriek bloody murder about giving up A-10s to Ukraine. Something something American stereotype about big guns.

Seriously though. How long were the Iowas retained for, just in case?

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Sep 3, 2003

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Grand Fromage posted:

People have so much difficulty with the concept of "allies".

And the importance of Lend-Lease.

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Sep 3, 2003

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I might be a big babby, but if a friend sent me something like that without at least a warning I don't think we would be friends much longer.

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Sep 3, 2003

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McNally posted:

An invasion of Canada from the US is one of the reasons Canada is independent so, y'know, you're welcome, Canada

Sorry about the White House, eh?

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Sep 3, 2003

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Has anyone seen hide or hair of Gerasimov since that inspection tour of Ukraine when he was supposedly wounded? He was absent from the subsequent May Day celebrations as well if memory serves.

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