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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Mebh posted:

Had to cancel a work airbnb team building day out for bbqing and fun when I worked in Spain once as we had accidentally booked out a porn/orgy set.

Sounds like a pretty good team building day to me!

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

It's still quite surprising to me that terry pratchett accepted his given his apparent views on monarchy and the peerage in the books.

I guess, but then he also went and forged himself a sword made out of meteorite because what's the point of being a knight without a magic sword? Probably thought it'd be a laugh.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jeherrin posted:

I thought I had COVID but test said no. Wife had it, we continued to share a bed, I didn't get symptoms, and tests said no. I no longer often wear a mask (and, living in London, I am surrounded by people not wearing masks). I essentially live the life I lived in 2019. I've tested with every cold-like episode I've had, and tests have said no.

I can't work out if I've just had it On the Sly (but seemingly never given it to my wife, because the one time she had it was from a work night out and she was Right Proper Sick) or I'm one of the Weirdly Immune. It's really odd.

I know several people like this, including myself. Apparently it just happens sometimes that the tests don't pick it up for some reason.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jeherrin posted:

There's a very good reason.

LFTs are crude. They're designed to pick up high viral loads. They're designed to be binary diagnostic tools used in the presence of non-specific but obvious symptoms: for doctors and nurses going 'we know they've got a respiratory illness, the LFT will tell us if it's this respiratory illness'.

If you want nuance, if you want to pick up the 'hidden' stuff, you need PCRs tests. They use an amplification mechanism to flag even small traces of bits of viral protein. Of course, if you amplify too much, you risk noise, so typically PCRs have amplification rates in the 30s. Covid PCRs had amplification rates in the 40s, but I'm sure that's fine. Sure!

Either way, if you want a public health strategy that keeps a good track of Covid in symptomatic and non-symptomatic populations, you want PCRs. Lots of them, at appropriate sensitivity. Save the LFTs for hospitals where you need the rapid turnaround of 'is it/isn't it'.

You'll note this is literally the opposite of what we did.

For what it's worth two of the people I know in that situation got PCR tests that also tested negative. Now it's possible they took them too soon (didn't pick up covid from their spouse yet who just tested positive) or too late (didn't want to leave the hosue while obviously sick with a spouse that has covid), but either way :shrug:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jeherrin posted:

So did they have COVID or not?

The tests said no, but one of them had basically every symptom (but very mild) and the other didn't have symptoms at all. I suppose he could have been asymptomatic though. Feels unlikely that you wouldn't have covid while sharing a bed and being locked in a house with someone who has it though.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jeherrin posted:

London Royal Free did a challenge survey where they paid 36 people several thousand pounds to willingly expose themselves to Covid in a controlled environment. Half of them never developed an infection or shed the virus.

It’s very possible to not get it.

Huh, that's really interesting. I did not know that so cheers. Could be the one that had mild symptoms was psychosomatic.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Hilarity timeline - Boris gets vonced, hits the self destruct button by calling a GE, ken gets fined by durham police and resigns, andy burnham somehow becomes leader by accident, conservatives are left with a ge to win and a not entirely poo poo opposition. Putin nukes the uk and it turns out it was all for nowt anyway.

Burnham winning a parliament seat in that time and then the Labour leadership seems unlikely tbh

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Josef bugman posted:

The vampires are probably going to be a sticking point for me.

The vampires are just a metaphor for the criticism of capitalism and the kind of people that rise to the top in capitalism. The bulk of the book is basically philosophy but not written in a way that makes you want to die of boredom.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

This just dredged back something I remember thinking ages ago.

Can you repel vampires with graph paper? It's just a ton of crosses upon crosses.

I want to say yes? I think part of the reason they went extinct is because humans started building stuff and buildings etc had right angles which is what fucks them up.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Vegan mayo, especially Helman's, is great. Can't speak to the bacon flavoured one, but there's also some really good vegan bacon so it seems trivial to combine them

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

I got paid to buy some as part of what I assume is some sort of scam by the company to inflate interest in their product. It was interesting, like bacon flavoured doner meat.

Basically, yeah. It feels more realistic if you cook it certain ways

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

They should definitely have an announcer's table and she and gerry adams can commentate and hopefully someone gets thrown through it.

Just had a mental image of Gerry Adams piledriving Arlene Foster through a WWE announcer table

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Failed Imagineer posted:

For future reference, it's good if you just put a sliver on top of your but of sushi and then dip it in some soy sauce and guzzle it all down

Don't believe his lies. The ginger is straight up Not Nice.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

General thread union advice if you're not sure what union to join in priority order:

1) The union that has the most people at your work. This is the correct choice 99% of the time.
2) Your profession specific union (eg a teacher's union if you're a teacher). If you're not sure what profession specific unions are available to you then
3) General unions: GMB, Unite, Unison. Of these, Unite is probably the least poo poo nationally but that's no guarantee about your local branch.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

forkboy84 posted:

Find someone who loves you like goons love bidets.

Bidets are poo poo. You want one of those high pressure water gun things.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

ThomasPaine posted:

Can this country try being not poo poo just for once, as a treat

Could be worse. Israel is on its 5th election in about 2-3 years or something and all the candidates just range from priti Patel to Boris Johnson.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

pumpinglemma posted:

Unfortunately, I think Keir does have actual beliefs and is quite willing to fight for them - from the moment he got in, he took to purging every remnant of the left from the Labour party with a zeal and enthusiasm that's been entirely absent from every other aspect of his political career.

The kind of enthusiasm you only get for keeping courts running 24/7 in order to prosecute people who stole water during the london riots. :unsmigghh:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

jaete posted:

What's the most appropriate SA smiley for today's events do you think?

I submit this one: :aloom:

:allears: has to be a strong contender as well

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

EvilHawk posted:

I don't think I've ever heard of Braverman before yesterday, why is everyone constantly dunking on her 24/7

She's the govt's Big Lawyer whose only actions since taking the role have been saying 'This is completely legal', despite a bunch of judges/lawyers who actually know what they're taking about disagreeing, about things that are obviously super illegal.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1544985952216653824?s=20&t=W4cy_Prt7a9eqgYAWe39Ew

Giving money to your mates for doing nothing - a tory classic.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

I just hope he cries.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

And that's all just the stuff we know about!

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

cinci zoo sniper posted:

:siren:

I’m pleased to invite Night Tories, and all other interested persons, to apply for your next UKMT gang tag.



To receive it, you must reply to this post with a scene from the Thick of It, by the end of the 11th of July, British Summer Time. Unoriginal show content submissions won’t be eligible.

Also, please specify how you want to have it, e.g., your gang tags in a scroll bar, a specific tag replaced, your title or avatar removed, with a pint (though I can’t really help you with that one), or something else.

If you don’t know where to get your bite of the Thick of It, you could definitely do worse than by looking at https://twitter.com/oocthickofit

:siren:

Guavanaut posted:

Also obligatory Not the Thick of It:




(under my current av, please)

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

No Dignity posted:

Thank god we have a Labouy Party running as Cameronite Tories to oppose the current wave of barely crypto fascists running for Tory leader

We now have two separate meanings for crypto-fascist and somehow they both mean the same thing in practice. Now that's efficiency!

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Guavanaut posted:

And on top of the lawn and the fence they have gone and painted the gay gender flag on their shed Norman.

That picture has inspired me to also paint my shed this summer. It will be funky. Up yours Mrs Norman!

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

They're related words for after death but variant meanings.

I'm no expert though. Start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valley_of_Hinnom_(Gehenna)

and here http://www.naseeb.com/journals/jahanum-gehenna-hell-188312

The valley of hinom is actually quite lovely! Plus it's always fun to say you've literally been to hell and back.

For people too lazy to click: The Hebrew word for valley is "guy" so guy hinom probably morphed into gehenom (hebrew word for hell) and then onto all the other variants that people know. There is something in the old testament about it being where evil people get sent as punishment because some Kings murdered a bunch of babies there iirc.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Tarnop posted:

Oh right, I think the politicians are just careerist school prefects. It's easy money, you're guaranteed a cushy follow up job as long as you can avoid any truly egregious unforced errors, and you get to tell people they can't have things because upper management said so without ever having to think about why, and you have a bunch of right wing think tanks coming up with excuses for you in case anyone asks. And unlike, say, a middle manager at a call centre, you get posters with your name on and sometimes people cheer for you or you get lots of retweets of a video of you saying something serious like "I was beaten as a child and it didn't do me any harm" and the job comes with an aura of prestige amongst the people whose opinions you care about.

It's this. It's people who got decent grades in school and were told they're very clever and politics is for very clever people so they did that but never considered why in the same way that someone who got a job in marketing never thought too hard about their career path, they just sort of stumbled into it.

They don't have any ideological framework beyond "we're clever and smart" which is hwu they get suckered in by neoliberal policies and "compromise" - because they sound clever despite being dogshit stupid.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Tesseraction posted:

Third government collapse in three years and Italy's on the verge of the post-Mussolini fascist party taking the reigns of power. So silver linings to our particular level of knee-high turdwater.

Israel, looking at Italy and the UK from the sidelines:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Convex posted:

"Quick, Robin... to the batshitcave!"

That's most caves tbf

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Bounties are as bad as chocolate oranges.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Microplastics posted:

So you love them because you acquired the taste under duress, i see

Just like smoking and lagers.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OzyMandrill posted:

I have never met anyone with taste as wrong as yours.

Yes, I used to smoke a pack a day when I was younger, why do you ask?

Being fair, you've not met me either.

I assume it's just.. The way you're raised and the food you're exposed to as a kid? I don't know. The UK has plenty of really good local food so I think the stereotype is generally underserved but then sometimes you have these illicit love affairs with chocolate oranges and black pudding that nobody understands except possibly australians who are just warm weather brits.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Niric posted:

Genuinely shocked to discover this horrendous food opinion wasn't posted by Miftan

I've never had one. I imagine they taste like chalk if that helps?

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

You wish, far worse.

Next time you get the opportunity put one in your mouth, so that you can trauma bond with everyone else.

I'll definitely do that and report back. I'd have liked to do a lot more British food reports for the thread, but since I've gone vegan a lot of it is just off the table so we'll never know.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

forkboy84 posted:

Black pudding makes a lot of sense in fairness, it's peasant fare. Animals bleed when slaughtered, it's nutritious but spoils quickly so combine it with suet, some oats, maybe some onion & assorted seasonings, all things your peasant is likely to have ready access to. Otherwise the blood is just wasted and your peasant cannot really afford that

I'll grant you it made sense at the time, but since it's no longer required to survive it should be expunged from existence.

I am also happy to report, Guavanaut, that they already make good vegan cakes.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Even the coriander thing only applies to fresh coriander. You can put dried coriander in most of those people's food and they'll like it (speaking as someone with the soap gene)

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Mebh posted:

carpeted kitchen.

:catstare:

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Scientastic posted:

Are you talking about the dried shredded leaves, or the light brown powder? Because the powder is dried coriander seed, which has a completely different flavour and usage

Either are fine for me and I can't stand the fresh stuff.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

OwlFancier posted:

There isn't strictly anything stopping you from saying please and thankyou to the robot except your own self consciousness.

This is like a very mild roku's basilisk

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

HopperUK posted:

What big union should I join? There isn't really one specific to my workplace. Unite? Unison? What's less shite? I want to do my part.

Unite's general secretary seems like a generally good egg who keeps shutting on Keith even if they haven't disaffiliated yet

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