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Jul 2, 2022

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Zil posted:

His followers might.

Yes absolutely. Like sure this isn't a criminal racketeering trial, so I get the rules, but I really wish they didn't show the jury.

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Jul 2, 2022

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Mr. Nice! posted:

For those curious, the numbers he's reading off the bottom of the document that says FSS and a set of numbers are called BATES numbers. When a party produces something in discovery, it gets numbered for easy reference and authentication.

This is kept in the Master BATES file for easy cross reference when trying to find a specific document.

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Jul 2, 2022

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Dan needs to have more self confidence. He's an incredible researcher and presenter. Hopefully he can find another topic after Alex self destructs. I'm guessing there is still a few years of content left as Alex fights this judgment and then fights paying it.

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Jul 2, 2022

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Crazy Ted posted:

I was led to believe that there was a time in his early 20s where he wasn't.

His parents were part of the Birch society, so he's been marinated in lunacy since childhood. The basic belief is that any attempt at civil rights is a Jewish/Communist plot to weaken the USA since black people can't actually be equal, as white supremacy is part of God's design.

Over the years gay and trans rights have been added as part of it, and globalist is the preferred name for the enemies now instead of communist or Jewish intellectuals.

Insomuch as a hate elemental like Alex was once an innocent kid, I blame his dad for paying for Alex's early shows and starting him down this path. Also his parents should have gotten him therapy for anger issues and delusional thinking when he was a teenager.

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Jul 2, 2022

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Crazy Ted posted:

But if they did than then we would never have learned about the gay and lesbian frogs.

You reminded me. My sister got me the toy.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/184730006156

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Jul 2, 2022

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InsertPotPun posted:

a: what can they do to him? fines? sanctions? making him lose a whole bunch of money? oh no, he'll have to...do his very profitable show to pay that off? "you're sentenced to live your life"
b: who wants to make an example of him? as far as i can see it's one angry judge. who can...impose sanctions see a.
why in the world would anyone "make an example" of jones? for what? who has he hurt that can actually gently caress with him? why? he's not exposing anything, he's running deep interference for the right people, he's a loving rich rodeo clown for the right people with a large following. a very useful tool.

I think it comes down to his ego. If he can calm down, then yeah being bankrupted won't hurt him because he has anonymous "friends" who have already shown they'll throw a few million his way. He can rebuild and start over.

What's more likely, I think, is he throws an absolute poo poo fit because he's a narcissistic who collided with reality and either
A. Overdoses or wrecks while on a binge
B. Alcoholism gets worse and he goes out that way.
C. Becomes such an unstable rage monster he can't do the show anymore.

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Jul 2, 2022

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ashpanash posted:

Sure, but in the real world, what you want is for him to be Glenn Beck'd. Made so irrelevant and ridiculous that even people on his side think he's a buffoon and a joke.

I wonder what the big boy fascists like Tucker, DeSantis, Cruz ect think about the phone leak. Alex was at least a useful idiot for them before, but now? I wonder how bad Alex has hosed them.

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Jul 2, 2022

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0konner posted:

The chances of jones having direct correspondence with Cruz or dessantis on there is almost zero but could be interesting to see what if any associated staffers might be in his texts. I’m just hoping the texts will get jones himself in trouble I don’t see him being a useful witness to flip on senators or what have you.

I agree that anyone important will be isolated from direct incrimination. They all like to use Alex but I doubt they trust him.

I was just thinking of his personal narcissism. He got such a huge ego boost anytime someone would pay attention to him. I hope patriot front, 3%ers ect won't even return his calls. Like he's not even a good useful idiot if you know there's always a chance that all communications will fall into your enemies hands because of his stupidity.

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Jul 2, 2022

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InsertPotPun posted:

yeah but he just goes on his show and says "i didn't say that". even during the depositions his "defense" was "i didn't say that". "i NEVER said there were no dead kids, i NEVER said this person's name" "I NEVER said..."
i just think prosecution's time would be better spent establishing that yes, jones DID say .... because that's his, and his defender's, entire defense: "i NEVER said..." when you can go to specific dates and find he said exactly that

It was already established by the court that he did say that when he was defaulted. As for the defense saying he didn't say that, that's not supposed to be happening. The defense is relitigating what Jones did or didn't do when he's already been found guilty, and the judges in these cases telling the defense daily that they're not allowed to do that.

I do understand your point, but the plaintiffs should not play the game the defense is trying to play.

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Jul 2, 2022

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So we all understand that the game is rigged for rich people. Alex has refused to play the game properly. He's been given second chance after second chance over and over and he's hosed it up every time. They are going to destroy him.

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Jul 2, 2022

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Arrhythmia posted:

Alex Jones owes these people a billion dollars and your anxiety disorder won't change that one jot.

While I agree that Alex can't get out of this, you're being lovely here. There is a reason this case is such a big deal, and that people are worried. Can you think of a single other instance in the last 20 years where a white multi millionaire was forced to pay for thier many crimes? Its easy to understand why people are skeptical.

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Jul 2, 2022

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I think the only thing he could possibly go to jail for is perjury as he's definitely lied to multiple courts.

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Jul 2, 2022

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SolTerrasa posted:

I mean, true, but this is basically never done. he is the most unsympathetic defendant of all time but I don’t think we’re gonna see this.

This has been one of the most frustrating things about not only Alex Jones, but the entire Trump era as well. I thought lying to a court and/or Congress was supposed to be a crime, but we hardly ever prosecute for it. Same for contempt. Like I get it's a high bar to prove someone intentionally lied and isn't just forgetful or an idiot but come on.

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Jul 2, 2022

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Huh. Looks like Bannon actually got sentenced to 4 months for contempt of Congress. It's a start.

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Jul 2, 2022

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I think at a certain point you just get desperate enough to throw poo poo at the wall and see what sticks. He had nothing to lose by trying. Even pissing off the court isn't a negative because I'm not sure they can get more pissed than they already were.

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Jul 2, 2022

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armpit_enjoyer posted:

The problem with a minimum wage is that no matter how high you raise it, they're going to raise the prices of everything to match; who cares if you're earning $5000 a month if your cost of living is $4999?

A government capable of raising the minimum wage should also be capable of preventing companies/ landlords from doing that. It's all interconnected.

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Jul 2, 2022

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Jones got a huge bump from Sandy Hook. It was part of the trial, how they would watch his viewership and store metrics and get a massive increase from talking about it.

Of course there are dozens of other insane conspiracies he can go off on, and he will if he's smart. But I can see him being dumb enough that Sandy Hook occupies an outsized space in his mind. It's like a gambler obsessed with a slot machine that gave him a big win once, even tho there are plenty more just like it in the casino.

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Jul 2, 2022

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yook posted:

Everyone on the podcast agreed Alex jones is the most complicated stupid person they’ve ever encountered and bankston got psyched himself into thinking jones was a genius for a part of the trial because of how the stuff he did made no sense.

Yeah if my opponent metaphorically shot thier own dick off, I'd stop and be worried for a minute that I was missing something.

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