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Lamuella posted:I'm entirely fine with Paizo not cutting off an income stream for artists tbh. Also lmao at "well getting actual art would be expensive so that's how I'm going to justify blatant art theft, gently caress y'all"
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# ¿ Mar 2, 2023 15:49 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 08:34 |
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Yeah, a group I'm playing with that is largely 5e players getting PF2e under their fingers nearly wiped on the cinder rat in the beginner box because there was a lot of "run in, attack" antics going on and I was the idiot who triggered it and went down turn one (we're playing iconics, I was Ezren, "I want to ponder the orb" felt in character). I had to not-so-subtlely suggest some actual tactics like tripping/shoving the rat around, etc. before we started recovering.
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# ¿ May 17, 2023 19:14 |
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Yeah, it's worked well for my group that's playing Abom Vaults. GM yoinked us all out of Pathbuilder and dropped us right into Foundry, zero issues aside from the druid's animal companion.
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# ¿ May 25, 2023 00:15 |
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If you don't get how the average joe's perspective is going to be "necromancy = dead/undead poo poo" then I think you're just being intentionally obtuse. In less stupid nonsense, has there been anything Alchemist-related in any of the Paizocon talks?
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# ¿ May 28, 2023 20:11 |
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3 Action Economist posted:It's okay to help your players understand that fight. The point of the box is to learn the system and its tactics. Yeah, I think it's going to result in a group falling apart on me. My party TPKed on that fight and afterwards I tried to bring up things we all could've done better at the DM's promoting because I'm the only one with any PF2e experience, and the player playing the fighter iconic got all in my face about "ugh if this is going to be nothing but rollplay instead of roleplay I'm just going back to 5e".
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2023 18:32 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:"please explain then why you did this <very silly thing>" and they basically word-salad'd. This sounds so familiar with said player who got pissed off at me. We attempted that fight again with the characters we rolled for Abom Vaults and it went better but they still opted to cast Electric Arc and command their animal companion (they're playing a Druid now) instead of drop a three-action Heal when I was down and two people were under 1/4 HP. Completely mindboggling. appropriatemetaphor posted:My thing with that is what if you’re flanking an enemy. You’ve attacked twice and now it makes sense to step back, but like now your ally loses the flank. I dunno, those are the sort of circumstances where I would've done other stuff with my first and second actions. Especially if I know my flank partner has the initiative lead, I'd probably forego getting two attacks to do something like change my grip on my greatsword, go for a trip, then regrip and attack. Still three actions, but it's set the team up for success way more.
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# ¿ Jun 11, 2023 23:38 |
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3 Action Economist posted:Those are things they should spend their *first* actions on, like demoralize. You want to do today before you strike. Yep, getting my partner used to the idea that "your big alpha strike spell isn't the best first thing to do" has taken some work, but she's sticking a shitload of Demoralizes now and loving the extra wiggle room that Frightened 1 gives her.
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# ¿ Jun 14, 2023 14:24 |
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boxen posted:It does lead to funny images like my 3 foot tall kobold bard wielding a 4 foot long sword cane. I've thought about using it to make him a stand-up bass style lute. It worked out quite well when I made a Pixie heritage Sprite and realized I could just use a picture of a lalafell dark knight in FF14 to represent her since she hit the rough height approximation of a Small creature and had a greatsword literally taller than her. E: Like, I rolled up with this for my Foundry token and everyone was like "yep that tracks"
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# ¿ Jun 21, 2023 22:17 |
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Arrrthritis posted:It would be rad if there was an archetype dedicated to wielding weapons that are one or two size categories larger than what you can normally wield. Let a dedicated player wield that fire giant's sword. At the risk of is this not exactly what Giant Instinct Barbarian is?
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2023 02:05 |
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DemonMage posted:That's not an archetype though (but is cool!) Ah, yeah, fair. You could apply it to other things through Barb Dedication and Instinct Ability at 6th, but that's a bit deep into an adventure. It's also probably the instinct I would've chosen for above said sprite if my group was running with Free Archetype (she's a fighter), but I didn't have the feat slots to snag Instinct Ability so I'm using Spirit instead to basically analogize her nascent link to the First World and how she'll sometimes just go into a fae battle trance on a whim. Fun character, it's really neat juxtaposing "shockingly upbeat and personable sellsword" with "loses herself in frothing battle rage if someone pisses her off".
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2023 02:19 |
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Lamuella posted:There's a question: if you have a weapon that deals nonlethal damage, is there a way to deliver lethal damage with it? In the real world if you hit someone enough times with a sap they die. Feels like there's room for a homebrew where you can do lethal damage but with a penalty to hit as you're having to aim a lot more carefully. The Nonlethal trait already has that baked in. quote:An effect with this trait is not inherently deadly. Damage from a nonlethal effect knocks a creature out rather than killing it. You can use a nonlethal weapon to make a lethal attack with a –2 circumstance penalty.
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# ¿ Jun 27, 2023 14:57 |
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Today I had my first Power Attack crit that rolled maximum damage (twelves on both d12s) and boy if my entire table didn't just pop off for it. Rolling up to a target and dropping fifty-four fuckin' damage ruled.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2023 04:52 |
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Could be worse, you could have a player bitching about PF2 being "too focused on rollplay instead of roleplay" when asked why they didn't burn a three action Heal during the beginner's box final encounter with multiple party members at sub-20%. I opted not to clap back about "if you think that a sellsword wouldn't get pissed off about how tactically stupid that choice was", mostly because I was in the group as a favor to the DM who earnestly wants to move to PF2 and wanted a more experienced player to try and help smooth the transition.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2023 03:33 |
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3 Action Economist posted:The role of a cleric is to heal, especially the cleric in the BB. So "roleplaying" would be, you know, healing everyone. To be fair they were playing a Druid at that point, but still. Why would you prepare it and not use it in a horrible situation like that? Instead of saving three people's lives they opted for Tangle Foot + Command an Animal on their companion. Just baffling.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2023 14:25 |
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Yeah, like, there's a difference between "I'm using a greatsword instead of a better two-hander because it's thematic to the character I'm making" and "actively refuses to and gets hostile at the suggestion of making different plays that would benefit the party more". We ended that encounter with the critter in question on single digit HP - that three action heal the druid could've used would've clinched victory and made them the Big drat Hero. Instead, I get yelled at because I suggested it.
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# ¿ Jul 17, 2023 15:57 |
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Arivia posted:Matt Mercer does a collaborative performance for an audience. It's not an actual roleplaying game Glossing over the conspiracy theory-rear end "IT'S ALL SCRIPTED!!!! " bit, in what universe are tabletop games not literally a collaborative performance with rules
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2023 23:33 |
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Dexo posted:No it's seemingly only insulting to you personally. I mean I don't like APs but that's more my weird brain worms making me feel like I'm invading in on something that's normally a private thing, in spite of them literally and actively broadcasting it out to other people. I'm not gonna write a screed about how ackshually it's not from the roleplay region of France therefore
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2023 23:39 |
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KPC_Mammon posted:To be fair, alchemist is the worst feeling class in the game and it isn't even close. You basically have a limited number of cantrips, spellcaster levels of accuracy, and an array of buffs that don't stack with magic items. It's so nonsense to me that bombers/mutagenists/toxicologists don't get better proficiency in the thing their study emphasizes (so alchemical bombs/unarmed strikes/simple weapons respectively). I really don't think bombers getting expert at 5th and master at 13th in bombs only would really ruin things.
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# ¿ Jul 20, 2023 01:21 |
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The Slack Lagoon posted:Starting a new campaign soon and the characters are... Sounds like my abom vaults group, but swap the goblin and automaton for a sprite and a grippli... being joined by an elf.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 03:22 |
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My group is a sprite fighter (me), grippli sorcerer, leshy druid, and azarketi swashbuckler. Elf player hasn't decided what they're doing yet, just emphatically "an elf, please".
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 14:36 |
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Chevy Slyme posted:My new group that is in the process of building characters for a campaign starting next month is looking like it’s going to be: Group sounds like it rocks.
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2023 20:20 |
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Yeah, I don't see how the new thing is that much different from the old other than "it's not literally any $TYPE spell". I'd wait for the whole list of curricula to drop before assuming the sky is falling.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 13:59 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:I imagine the explanation is that when you were in school you were taught about these spells even though you weren't able to cast them yet. Those are the spells your teachers thought were cool and worth striving toward. You wrote down the formulas and theory behind the spell back when you were in training, but it didn't click until now. Exactly. Plus, the curriculum spells are only for your what were previously specialist spell slots. You can still learn whatever the gently caress you want off the arcane tradition list for normal per-level spells; the "you pick one of this small subset" is when you reach a new spellcasting rank and is an extra for your curriculum slots.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2023 16:52 |
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Yeah, I was gonna say, as a level 2 PC I've done more than that in a single crit myself, so if I can dish it out I would not be shocked to see similar coming back at my face. E: Now, granted, yeah, 34 would drop either of my level 2 fighters as well, so I probably would've called for a retreat from a spicy looking foe if I knew our party was running on fumes. Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 27, 2023 |
# ¿ Jul 27, 2023 19:05 |
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Zeg posted:E: if anyone cares I can post my build ideas or try to share the character file somehow If you're using Pathbuilder, you can share a link to the character with this option: That said, yes, Gunslinger Dedication does give you proficiency in guns, so the idea you describe would work just fine, caveats about firearms themselves notwithstanding.
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# ¿ Aug 1, 2023 17:17 |
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Starfinder 2E
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 15:53 |
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Chevy Slyme posted:Playtest page is up for Starfinder I love the glitch gremlin and will protect them with my life
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 16:23 |
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Syrinxx posted:Kineticist is already on Pathbuilder, quick work by that developer. Wood has an impulse that heals with herbs and spices. I am this close to making Colonel Sanders, Fire/Wood Kineticist.
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# ¿ Aug 3, 2023 19:17 |
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Yeah, as someone who was the mandatory crafting bitch in various groups across both 3.5e and PF1, I'm glad that crafting is largely able to be ignored outside of things like shield maintenance unless the DM is specifically limiting item availability at the macroeconomic level.
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# ¿ Aug 7, 2023 20:25 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:he's totally internalized the brain-dead 5e paradigm of "oh it's my turn, I do the thing I always do and run the formula" and that's what he's trying to do, just do the same thing every round after the first Starting to think that may be the issue with the druid in one of my groups that I've been bitching about. They have The Plan and deviating is "rollplaying".
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2023 19:30 |
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Honestly it seems like he's trying to do thirty seven different things at once and sucking at all of them.
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# ¿ Aug 10, 2023 23:42 |
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atelier morgan posted:if the dude's a big grog he probably figures what he's doing is fine and effective enough since he isn't dying (which surprises me, as somebody playing through the vaults right now i'd expect anybody aggressively flanking without even being defense capped to be getting bounced off the floor all the time) Yeah, I was gonna say, as a fighter in half plate I'm taking some lumps when I try to set up for our swashbuckler; a low AC bard in the tussle sounds like they'd get turned into a stain.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2023 02:39 |
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Instructions unclear, continuing to use a greatsword on my pixie.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2023 13:25 |
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Gwaihir posted:I also grabbed mauler dedication so I swap back and forth between swinging a two handed hammer around and then putting it away to go in for the takedown Have any of your party members popped off with "by gawd he's got a steel maul!" because if not they're slacking
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2023 03:12 |
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:and nobody besides our Kineticist learns anything. I. Do. Not. Get. It. Some people just really don't like the tactical layer to combat. I had something similar last session with my table with That Druid where there was a creature in water that I wanted to coax into approaching the rest of the party but our Swashbuckler just fuckin' jumped right into the water to brawl with it, leaving the rest of us without a swim speed just kinda staring at them going at it. I even lead initiative with Delaying until the thing came in range, but nope, there they go.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 18:02 |
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Sometimes that's just people not paying attention to anything when it's not their turn. That may be it, because I was very explicit about it. I was top of the initiative order and stated "I am going to Delay with the trigger of the fish thing climbing onto the bridge, in order to coax it into a bad position". And then wheee, off goes the swash~
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 18:24 |
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KPC_Mammon posted:That's exactly what happens in the rules lawyer's video on pathfinder tactics. Swashbucklers are famous for turning easy fights into tpks because they want to look cool and flashy. Ours is wit! They should be hanging back and talking poo poo! It's maddening!
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 18:39 |
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Mister Olympus posted:it doesn't help that some classes in this system, like magus and gunslinger, do have very tight action loops that hurt to have disrupted Yeah, and that's fair - if we had anyone with an action loop like that I'd be more forgiving. But our party is a pixie sprite fighter (me), a grippli imperial sorcerer (my partner), a leshy animal druid, and an azarketi wit swashbuckler. Usually the swashbuckler's on board with my tactical planning (my character's backstory is that she came to the Prime from the First World because she wanted to Become A Hero™ and obviously all heroes started as sellswords and mercenaries, so she lives for that sort of "leader of the merc band" tactical planning thing), but lord, it just felt kind of a slap in the face to explicitly set a plan and see another player just go "lol nope bye" to it.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 19:18 |
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Mister Olympus posted:after being told off enough, any unintentional sabotage should be treated as intentional That's probably going to be how I come at things with my table's druid if there's another near TPK situation; my character isn't a greenhorn, and she's got enough of a leadership mindset that she would read "I could've healed y'all but didn't" as sabotage and blow a fae gasket over it. The druid player is so obsessed over the whole "I roleplay, not rollplay" poo poo that it makes me want to meet that head on.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 20:08 |
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# ¿ May 16, 2024 08:34 |
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sugar free jazz posted:this sounds like a player problem and not a character problem You're not wrong. I honestly should walk away from the table but I like two of the three other players and the GM (in spite of my occasional grousing about the swashbuckler), and I did offer to basically be their "hey we're trying to get off 5e and move to PF2e, do you mind helping us?" go-to person. I also have the bad habit of internalizing everything in terms of "okay, how'd I gently caress up this exchange" and realistically I should realize that anyone who reacts to "hey <player> there were at least a couple of places where a two-action or three-action Heal would've swung the tide of battle in our favor during that fight" with "if this system is all about rollplay instead of roleplay then I'm out" is not someone I can get things through to. I just bite my tongue a lot and vent to y'all instead.
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2023 23:02 |