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Kashuno posted:when does DMU go up on arena? Tomorrow? Yeah Thursday 8am ish Pacific, after server downtime and then the client will be buggy as gently caress all day like it is every set release lol
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2022 16:08 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 17:42 |
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Huxley posted:
Probably should have the following: Limited deck recording, tracking and replays https://www.17lands.com/ Deck Overlay (good one) https://mtga.untapped.gg/
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2022 16:16 |
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gems in the store today
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2022 16:40 |
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little munchkin posted:
Great post as always lil munch White, Blue, Red all look great and black's commons fall WAY off a cliff after Extinguish the Light and Phyrexian Rager. Green also exists I suppose. I caught a few streams yesterday and UR with all the pieces looks real good, I guess we'll see how contested it is. Get on it while the getting is good. I think taking off-colour lands for kicker will be a mid-pack priority once you setlle into your deck. The power level of commons is real flat aside from a couple standouts and a lot of the power is in the kickers, it's like half a gold set. Aside from UR and maybe some Wx decks, it doesn't look like it's going to be a very aggressive format, you might have some time to fart around and play 3-5 colour soup, quoting myself from the last thread Lone Goat posted:It's gonna be real drat funny if both NEO and Domu end up being better 3+ colour draft formats than Capenna
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 03:45 |
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little munchkin posted:
I dunno, aside from the kicker cards those look like the fillerest fillers that ever filled a deck. Bone Splinters and Gibbering Barricade look like stealth WB cards and cute in GBx with the 0/2 land finder defender. UB just looks like a random control deck that can win with any idiot big creature so you just want more removal and card draw and everything in between doesn't matter. RB uhhhhh I don't even know. Black doesn't seem like it has a strong identity this set so you're just pairing what works with your main colour
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 04:58 |
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waloo posted:So everybody is just trying to forget about Riveteers, Brokers, Maestros, Cabaretti, and Obscura? Were the Streets of New Capenna really so traumatic? You'll likely never hear those words again once we leave Capenna, just like we never talk about Ketria, Zag...oth? and whatever the other 3 triomes are.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 05:50 |
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Horace Kinch posted:So is sealed like draft except instead of picking and passing packs it just throws a bunch of cards in your face? I have a bunch of gold saved up and was tempted to try it. Yeah in sealed you just get 6 boosters of cards to make a deck out of, rather than drafting a pool and making a deck out of that. Good way to dip your toe into limited, since draft is pretty overwhelming to start.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 20:59 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Event #3 If you want to play the UR deck then instead of taking random off colour garbage like you did in pack 1, you want to take the cantrips like Joint Exploration, Impulse, and to a lesser extent Thrill of Possibility
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 21:40 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Which were the random off color garbage cards in pack 1? Picks where you took a random off colour garbage and what I'd have taken p1p4 Impulse p1p11 Impulse p2p1 Timely Interference p2p2 Geyser (Meria's Outrider isn't off-colour but def not what you want for this deck) p2p3 Picker or Thrill p2p6 Bellow p2p9 Drake p2p10 Impede Momentum p3p1 Scatter or Timely (they both wheeled lmao) p3p8 Drake
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 22:09 |
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Simply Simon posted:First draft Cut Impede Momentum for Phyrexian Espionage. I also want to find room for Gibbering Barricade as a good blocker, maybe instead of Haunting Figment or 1 Shore Up?
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 22:22 |
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Simone Poodoin posted:Have they added the feature to chose a land type as default? not yet
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2022 22:50 |
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Shrecknet posted:It's not. Burn Down the House is straight-up better, there's almost no use case for a 7-mana sweeper that only deals 5 damage even if it keeps your planeswalker around, especially when Farewell exists, does the same job better, and costs 1 less. Charlie saw it played in limited, seemed decent there
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2022 03:26 |
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Finally got around to my first draft, and I think I might have peaked too early 7-2 in silver/gold. Here's the draft https://www.17lands.com/draft/196b0330f48e4adf87d77fc3933e17c7, p2p3 should have been Phyrexian Emissary. If you want to see something really funny, look at my first loss under Details.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2022 02:58 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:It's specifically your constant high and mighty condescension towards me that would be the most likely thing to make me stop posting entirely, but you can settle for putting me on ignore I guess you've done 8 drafts, tell us what you've learned
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2022 03:06 |
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thespaceinvader posted:Did anyone manage to work out why some of the mastery track levels are glowing green? I think normally you'd not get anything at those levels, but they're bonus rewards and the green aura represents they're from the Renewal Egg. Hail Egg
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2022 13:29 |
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Eej posted:Actually 2 colours is cool and good too How was Karn? Every time I see it, it looks both immensely mediocre but also must kill?
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2022 06:00 |
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Eej posted:So he's really bad if you can't defend him but if you have board and play him you can just crank out stones if you have a card to play and if you don't -1 to dig X for gas. Otherwise he's an incredible top deck when you have lands because you can immediately -1 to dig 2-3 for actual answers and they have to deal with him or you'll just keep drawing good stuff while filtering out lands. Yeah that makes sense. Whenever I saw Karn on screen it was usually him going + + + every turn and eventually dying so he was just a sloppy lifegain spell, but also you can't really ignore him because if he gets to ultimate it's 3-4 damage every turn off the power stones just blasting your entire board. Don't think I ever saw anyone use the middle ability, but he only gotta played by opponents on the streams I watched. He's not good on a board where you're behind so the steamers I watch weren't willing to pick him highly.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2022 07:42 |
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Kashuno posted:I really want to draft the UR aggro spells deck but it just never seems open at my seat. How're folks getting into that deck? they take the UR cards when it's open
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2022 19:53 |
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Finally came down from the high of that Defenders deck last week and had another draft. Draft My copilot bullied me into taking Defiler of Flesh p1p1 but luckily blue was WIDE open and I was able to cut it from the deck. Blacks common permanents are mostly garbage, -Phyrexian Rager is the only one that's any good and even it isn't performing well this format- so Defiler doesn't really do much except be an unexciting Followed up with Phyrexian Rager over Aether Channeler partly to stay black but mostly to have some great complaint equity if I lost because of the bad card I was forced to take p1. Did I tell my friend "we're gonna lose and it's going to be your fault and we can draft again"? Maybe. Funniest thing is Channeler would have been a much better pick for our eventual deck, with or without the Defiler in the deck. Very tempted by Chappie p2p1 but neither of the black walls I passed in pack one wheeled so I decided to stay the course. There were a lot of tough picks midpack but it felt like nobody else was in blue, and definitely not in blue/black so we got some gifts late in each pack. Essence Scatter p2p11 was absurd. I can't say that the final build was correct. Choking Miasma ertainly should have been in the deck. I kicked Battlewing Mystic a couple times but I also looted them away multiple times, and in a slightly more variant world they'd have looked embarrassing. Mana was mostly good but there were some turns where I wanted BBB and didn't have it. A note about Academy Loremaster: Normally this card is awful but my deck had loads of instants and especially 3 Essence Scatters, and I had a couple games where I played her on turn 2 and just drew and made land drops and passed with instants up, then eventually traded it off when it no longer benefitted me. Game 3 is a great example of what you're trying to do with it. Games were pretty straightforward, some good clean control deck action where you pass the turn and do nothing, waiting for your opponent to take actions and then pounce on them. You can't see it in the replays but one opponent Your Go'd me on turn 2 and I beat the absolute gently caress out of them, very satisfying. Result: 7-0 in gold
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2022 05:32 |
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BrianBoitano posted:Would somebody help me make 3 cuts please? Also lmao at being I think the only player on black out of 7 If anything I want to bring more cards in! The second Urborg Repocession is really good, as is the Cards I don't like are Aggressive Sabotage, some (all?) Balduvian Atrocity and some 2 drops? I get the Eerie Soultenders are there for the cleric lord, not sure how many of them I like here since your tutor targets aren't spectacular. Looking at your draft I wished you had lot taken a lot of BGux cards going by, especially dual lands.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2022 06:15 |
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SalTheBard posted:During the streamer prerelease CGB said "Watch the auto tapper with pain lands, it will kill you." and sure as loving poo poo I snatched defeat from the jaws of victory with the loving auto tapper Even just with duals in limited I've seen people get massively owned by the autotapper, multiple times in a game.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2022 06:19 |
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Death of Rats posted:No, I've had that bug too but since it's only visual I haven't claimed against it unless it hosed my draft up in a notable way (so, being unsure which card I took when it matters for synergy reasons). Thanks for the heads up though. Sometimes hitting the home button top left and coming back to the draft fixes those visual bugs, but I'd understand not wanting to risk it when you're under the pick timer.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2022 07:10 |
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Carillon posted:I swear I draft removal, but it's been 7 games now over 3 different decks that it just doesn't ever show up. It sucks when I lose to someone with 2 tail swipes and a top decked bite down and I'm sitting here with all my removal apparently in the last half of my deck. It's not like I don't have some myself! Just aggravating when it keeps happening. show us the deck
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2022 07:24 |
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A Moose posted:I have seen 1 post asking if Sheoldred deserves a ban. Was it from a poster who always whines for a ban whenever they lose to a card? Some people are just like that.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2022 17:52 |
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A Moose posted:True, but that was at least as much due to the companion rule change. Ramping to 6 and hitting at least 1 Spark Double was kinda funny and not a bad board position for turn 4. making it cost 9 was too much though. My memory might be off but I felt Gyruda fell off way before the rule change.
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2022 19:30 |
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A Moose posted:Might be. I guess I don't remember that well either. It was definitely a week 1 stand out I guess. Ikoria came out May 15, and the rule change was june 1 It was out on Arena a month before that, I have 17lands logs from mid April. There were bigtime supply chain issues at the start of covid lockdowns that delayed paper release outside of Asia, I think? So there were a lot of results online before people even got hands on the cards. But yeah people have freakouts about every single card that looks remotely playable in the first four days of grinders slopping it up on Arena ladder, some of them post in this thread. I'll wait to see what the pros actually do with the cards if/when there's an event that good players are at (ie, NOT crokeyz).
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2022 20:16 |
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Mike N Eich posted:Am I a scrub or is Salvaged Manaworker an awesome include in this format? There aren't that many great two drops, its colorless, the 3 toughness is relevant and the mana fixing is great. I've found having one in my decks is super nice, almost always. If you're really desperate for mana and you didn't see the lands you needed it's endurable fixing, but no it's not great. e: lol yeah what everyone else said
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# ¿ Sep 6, 2022 23:29 |
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wei posted:If anyone has any interesting sealed pools or just want an opinion please feel free post them, I need practice for an RCQ this weekend. Here's what I had, let me know what you ended up with https://sealeddeck.tech/s1Heia0bld I put together this after 10 minutes of poking around https://sealeddeck.tech/HtgPHRBXsd
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2022 06:29 |
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MeinPanzer posted:Any advice on this draft pool? Don't have time right now to do a full breakdown but you misbuilt this deck by at least 6 cards, please don't play it without getting further advice (I might have time in a couple hours if nobody else gets to it) e: NO do not splash paragon
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2022 19:07 |
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wei posted:This was a really interesting one, thanks! Yeah I tried a WG base since I had the two uncommons but going deeper on those colours with the Junipers and Sentrys and splashing other colours less (no Ertai, Squee, for example). Why only play one each of Lightning Strike or Tolarian Geyser?
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2022 03:10 |
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Draft Opened on the boat because it's really good with ETBs and I wanted to try it, next best card is Elas but I wasn't interested in committing to BW on p1. Took some good ETB creatures but then pivoted into red for extremely late Fires's of Victory and Lightning Strike in pack 1. I passed a lot of good UR cards while taking my own - pack 8 I take Fires of Victory and pass Battlewing Mystic, Essence Scatter, and two other lesser red cards - so good UR cards don't really show up in pack 2. UR is back on the menu in pack 3 so I'm guessing a couple seats to my left is UR but nobody else. p3p7 Battlewing Mystic maybe should have been Tolarian Terror? The kicker on Mystic is cute but I probably should have just taken the beef. Not enough ETBs in the deck to play the boat, gonna have to wait another day to get my Argussy ate. Looking at my losses: Game 3 was incredibly close and I'm still not sure if I can find a line where I win. Turn "15" I'm priced into trading every turn and making it a topdeck war, and my opponent just barely edges me out. Game 5 I gently caress up bad by kicking Timely Intervention to force my opponent to block my creature with their 2/2... but Flowstone Kavu has menace so they don't have to block. If I don't waste my mana I can Shorp the 3/1 and can save my Fires of Victory to kick it instead of having to kill things off sooner, leaving me in a far better position for the mid to late game. Instead, I take unnecessary damage on the following turn and die to exactsies with Essence Scatter in hand to two pump spells on a single Battlefly Swarm. Very winnable game that I spewed off. Game 7 is the mirror and the opponent basically has a better version of my deck, they get an early Electrostatic Infantry and make sure to protect it. I'm forced to play aggressively and they weather the storm, then out card me at the end of the game. Result: 6-3 in Gold/Plat, the trophy streak is over.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2022 05:53 |
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Waffleopolis posted:Need a bit of sealed help here. Here's a pic of my pool: For the future, you can just paste that text string into https://sealeddeck.tech and it'll spit out a deck for you, and then hit publish to get a custom URL like this: https://sealeddeck.tech/zsJTACPNeQ Much easier for people to work with than an image or text dump.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2022 06:28 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Event #16 In your 80ish games so far, have you ever seen Mons be good?
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2022 19:10 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Hmm, I saw it kill Jim Davis once but the stats are pretty bad. It's like Tori and Najal, it seems that cluster of 4-drop golds are trap cards? I guess I could cut it. The defender package is fine, you want clutter on the board for Phalanx and they're all card advantage anyway.
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2022 19:24 |
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:The hope is that I hit something with 61% to draw in the next two turns and curve out? If you draw a two drop are you going to refuse to block with it until turn 5 so that you can play Phalanx? This hand needs TWO cards (or Argivian Cavalier) to curve out, not one. Your odds are way less than 61%
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2022 21:13 |
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Boxman posted:Anyone feel like looking at this draft? I posted about the first picks earlier, ended up at 5 wins (but I'm in shitter tier, so it doesn't mean too much). Urborg Repocession is the best card for your deck and you kept passing it for stuff that doesn't matter
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2022 01:01 |
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MasterBuilder posted:
wow what are the odds of that???
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2022 02:27 |
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dingo with a joint posted:Can someone please explain to me the set difference between Explorer and Historic? Most of my collection just rotated out of being Standard legal, and I'd assumed I'd be able to play it as-is in Historic. No, turns out Historic is Alchemy+, not Standard+. Instead, there's this thing called Explorer that contains all my Kaldheim cards as-is, and it's like Historic, but not quite. And I can't for the life of me work out what that "but not quite" amounts to. Which sets are Historic but not Explorer? Or is it not as simple as that? And am I just being a stubborn dumbass by refusing to accept the Alchemy version of Magic into my heart? If you had a legal Standard deck that isn't legal in Historic, then you probably have cards in your Standard deck that got "adjusted". Historic is Alchemy+, but whenever you get a Standard card you'll get the adjusted version as well. So, for example, if your Standard deck had Luminarch Aspirant or Goldspan Dragon, then you'll need to replace them with the alchemy (nerfed) version of both those cards for Historic. You already own these cards, look for the ones with the Arena Symbol before their name (eg, A-Luminarch Ascendant, etc) Historic is -roughly- every card on Arena, with a ban list, and including Alchemized versions of cards rather than the real versions. Explorer is the Arena-equivalent of Pioneer, a paper format that starts at Return to Ravnica and includes all cards from that set forward. It follows whatever is legal (not banned) in Pioneer, and also Tibalt's Trickery is banned. And to your final question, yes.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2022 17:14 |
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Urcher posted:I'm new to drafting and feel like I don't have much understanding of which cards are good. little munchkin posted:Next draft, open up 17lands card ratings beforehand and spend the first few picks picking out 3--5 cards that look good and checking out their stats (game in hand is the best number to look at). A lot of cards play out differently from how they read and if you're not sure, you don't have to be guessing. The 17lands stats page is overwhelming at first, I'd recommend https://www.limitedgrades.com/dmu which takes the win rates and converts them to a letter grade. Also, Dominaria United is a highly synergistic set, so the raw stats might not tell the whole picture. For example, Wingmantle Chaplain is the 4th winningest card in the entire set, but you have to properly draft your deck around it to make it work.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2022 18:38 |
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# ¿ May 21, 2024 17:42 |
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Urcher posted:Thanks for the tips everyone. No good trick, just what you said.
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# ¿ Sep 10, 2022 23:54 |