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Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

the_steve posted:

To be fair, I don't think anyone (other than Twitter) thought he was actually going to go through with the purchase.
He was doing his damndest to weasel out of it every step of the way before trying to do a 180 and act like he puppet mastered the whole thing.

Which is to say nothing of his subsequent decision to take a few laps around the rake factory, but he obviously thought he was going to get out of the actual purchase, and the majority of us were certain of the same at the time.

There was no way he was getting out of the purchase, and most of the serious business law and contract law experts were pretty confident in that.

While there were plenty of people who did have doubts, they were mostly uninformed or in denial.

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kdrudy
Sep 19, 2009

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i mean glenn's hosed up poo poo is already known/rumored, i wouldnt be shocked if tiel has similar hosed up poo poo.

Known vampire Peter Thiel being into hosed up poo poo? Doesn't seem likely.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
lol at another regressive ripoff attempt.

just doing shitposting social media is hard, hosting videos is like harder.

esp. content no one loving wants.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.
https://twitter.com/christapeterso/status/1608698515613708288
:yikes:

At least it probably won't be that hard to prosecute given how unconcerned he apparently was about hiding his sex trafficking.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
Seems like having a website where you openly brag about coercing women into doing pornography with dubious consent isn't a good idea if you want to stay out of jail, but IANAL

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Graduating from mycrimes.txt to mycrimes.com.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

bird food bathtub posted:

I don't see there being anyone twirling their mustache saying "Nyeh, let's see if today's evil plot works!" but I will absolutely believe there are people taking careful notes on what's happening now that they can see it.

Oh yeah, to be clear I'm not meaning to claim that there's some evil cabal who went "Initiate Operation Ultra Liar Man", I mostly mean that Republicans will most likely circle the wagons and protect this guy from consequences as much as they are able to without putting themselves out there because if the guy ends up keeping his seat and not getting arrested it provides them with a useful precedent for the future.

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 23 days!)

cat botherer posted:

https://twitter.com/christapeterso/status/1608698515613708288
:yikes:

At least it probably won't be that hard to prosecute given how unconcerned he apparently was about hiding his sex trafficking.

The screenshots are from the defunct but archived website: https://web.archive.org/web/20220108225827/https://www.cobratate.com/phd-program

I learned about this guy only last night so I may be missing some context, but this just screams standard abusive/manipulative piece of poo poo PUA stuff... Where does the sex trafficking come in?

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

The screenshots are from the defunct but archived website: https://web.archive.org/web/20220108225827/https://www.cobratate.com/phd-program

I learned about this guy only last night so I may be missing some context, but this just screams standard abusive/manipulative piece of poo poo PUA stuff... Where does the sex trafficking come in?
I've been vaguely aware of this guy. He's big with impressionable 14 year old boys, which is just great. He's always marketing himself as being surrounded by a harem of sexy women, etc. I guess we know how he does that now. I would have just assumed they were just some rando models or something, but of course not.

Sir John Falstaff
Apr 13, 2010

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

The screenshots are from the defunct but archived website: https://web.archive.org/web/20220108225827/https://www.cobratate.com/phd-program

I learned about this guy only last night so I may be missing some context, but this just screams standard abusive/manipulative piece of poo poo PUA stuff... Where does the sex trafficking come in?

The sex trafficking part seems to come in when they appear on webcam presumably doing sexual things. He seems to be claiming that they do it out of love for him, but I suspect the reason the Romanian police are interested is that "love" actually means coercion, of one kind or another.

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

The screenshots are from the defunct but archived website: https://web.archive.org/web/20220108225827/https://www.cobratate.com/phd-program

I learned about this guy only last night so I may be missing some context, but this just screams standard abusive/manipulative piece of poo poo PUA stuff... Where does the sex trafficking come in?

After he lures in women with abusive/manipulative piece of poo poo PUA stuff, he coerces them into doing porn, and then uses threats of violence and blackmail to keep them doing it.

As the BBC puts it:

quote:

Speaking to the BBC, a spokesperson for the Directorate for Investigating Organised Crime and Terrorism (DIICOT) said prosecutors had applied to hold the influencer at a "detention centre" for an additional 30 days.

A judge will rule on the application on Friday, the spokesperson added. The brothers have been under investigation since April alongside two Romanian nationals.

During the detention hearing, the two brothers maintained their right to silence, their lawyer told the BBC.

"The four suspects... appear to have created an organised crime group with the purpose of recruiting, housing and exploiting women by forcing them to create pornographic content meant to be seen on specialised websites for a cost," DIICOT said in a statement.

...

The statement said officers had identified six people who were "sexually exploited" by what it called an "organised criminal group".

Police alleged the victims were "recruited" by the British citizens, who they said had misrepresented their intention to enter into a relationship with the victims - which it called "the loverboy method".

They were later forced to perform in pornographic content under threat of violence, the statement said.

Police also released a video of the raid, showing guns, knives, and money on display in one room.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Who the hell is Andrew Tate? Is he anything other than a rando sexpest

Nissin Cup Nudist fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Dec 30, 2022

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Who the hell is Andrew Tate? Is he anything other than a rando sexpest

He's a random sexpest with tens of millions of social media disciples, most of them teenage boys who treat his manuals as gospel.

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Who the hell is Andrew Tate? Is he anything other than a rando sexpest

MMA/Kickboxing guy from England that leaned hard into PUA/misogyny stuff. Just another internet alpha male lifestyle coach grifter that everyone except his target demo immediately flags as a completely gross person.

E:fb

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

thermodynamics cheated

Nissin Cup Nudist posted:

Who the hell is Andrew Tate? Is he anything other than a rando sexpest

Tate is the person you desperately want to be irrelevant because you've never heard of him, but he's actually disturbingly relevant to groups of people that are susceptible with extremely bad social connotations (tween and teenage boys he's essentially training to be the next generation of hosed up misogynistic abusers) and is legitimately a concern to have to keep track of analogous to how SPLC tracks, like, patriot front or the proud boys

It's actually pretty hosed up how influential he got to be among underage boys, he's an avatar of chauvinist abuse and performance masc

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

alf_pogs posted:

who is this shell of a man, he is an absolute onion

Eventually it will be revealed that the man known as George Santos is actually two small boys in a trenchcoat.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

Staluigi posted:

Tate is the person you desperately want to be irrelevant because you've never heard of him, but he's actually disturbingly relevant to groups of people that are susceptible with extremely bad social connotations (tween and teenage boys he's essentially training to be the next generation of hosed up misogynistic abusers) and is legitimately a concern to have to keep track of analogous to how SPLC tracks, like, patriot front or the proud boys

It's actually pretty hosed up how influential he got to be among underage boys, he's an avatar of chauvinist abuse and performance masc

do we know he's influential or do we fear he's influential?

not disagreeing with his being an awful shitlord

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

Jaxyon posted:

do we know he's influential or do we fear he's influential?

not disagreeing with his being an awful shitlord
He's not like the new Hitler or something, but he does have plenty of pull. Today's no-good teens love these youtubers. Any of these guys can be replaced by tons of other douchenozzles waiting in the wings, but at least this is a funny enough way to go down it might make for some reflection for his irritating 15 year-old fans (??).

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



On the topic of Tate, if similar crimes were committed in multiple countries how is it decided where he is charged and serve prison time? Is some sort of negotiation done in terms of extradition or something?

And God he better serve loving prison time

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Jaxyon posted:

do we know he's influential or do we fear he's influential?

not disagreeing with his being an awful shitlord

They don't do approval polls of random internet assholes. The only relevant hard data is his social media footprint, which is pretty large

Buckwheat Sings
Feb 9, 2005
Why is it that the guys that are all gunho about white power or posing with alpha bro Naruto hand signals always have no chin.

It's bizarre.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

cr0y posted:

On the topic of Tate, if similar crimes were committed in multiple countries how is it decided where he is charged and serve prison time? Is some sort of negotiation done in terms of extradition or something?

And God he better serve loving prison time

In brief, it's negotiated, and may be subject to preexisting international agreements. Often the person in the country of arrest has some ability to fight extradition using the legal system of that country.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Buckwheat Sings posted:

Why is it that the guys that are all gunho about white power or posing with alpha bro Naruto hand signals always have no chin.

It's bizarre.

Isn't this dialogue from the old Preacher comic?

Mizaq
Sep 12, 2001

Monkey Magic
Toilet Rascal
Yeah, IIRC it was an allusion to inbreeding.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Mizaq posted:

Yeah, IIRC it was an allusion to inbreeding.

"Why is it that the greatest champions of the anime genre always turn out to be the worst examples of it? YOU! WHERE THE gently caress IS YOUR DEATH LULLABY VHS?"






EDIT: Here it is:

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Jaxyon posted:

do we know he's influential or do we fear he's influential?

not disagreeing with his being an awful shitlord

He's part of the right-wing griftosphere...
https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1608978638996910080?s=20&t=zFKRWXEcDOhJfR5OqEPeSw

There's other photos of him with Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson for those keeping track of the UK right-wingers.

Youth Decay
Aug 18, 2015

Jaxyon posted:

do we know he's influential or do we fear he's influential?

not disagreeing with his being an awful shitlord

He's got a broader and younger reach than previous MRA influencers. From what I've heard from teachers a certain segment of teenaged boys idolize him and latch onto his every word. He's a symptom of the much larger Problem With Men rather than the cause but millions of people giving millions of dollars to a sex trafficker is bad in itself.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Additionally, in lies with no legal consequences news, his story about his mom dying during 9/11 has shockingly turned out to be false and she was confirmed to have died in early 2016.

https://twitter.com/FPWellman/status/1608580065050382339
No it wasn’t his mom that died in 9/11 it was allegedly four employees of his mom’s then company who died when the towers fell and this led to his mom going broke and was why they were poor. Or something.

Oop looks like he changed it again, it was her being enveloped in the cloud of debris that gave her the cancer that killed her, she refused to sign up for aid for survivors because she didn’t want to take money away from first responders and they could afford to take care of their medical bills.

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




Oracle posted:

No it wasn’t his mom that died in 9/11 it was allegedly four employees of his mom’s then company who died when the towers fell and this led to his mom going broke and was why they were poor. Or something.

Oop looks like he changed it again, it was her being enveloped in the cloud of debris that gave her the cancer that killed her, she refused to sign up for aid for survivors because she didn’t want to take money away from first responders and they could afford to take care of their medical bills.

None of those are true because 9/11 is code for IK, which stands for International Kombat, an underground bloodsport tournament. She wasn't paying attention during signups and mistakenly signed up for a 911 fight, which is also a Kombat Kode (this is how these tournaments work for those not "in the know") for Armless Kombat. At the start of her fight her arms were immediately removed and she died of bloodloss. Her opponent was deeply traumatized because he had used a Slo-Mo Kode - 433 - which meant that he was forced to observe her dying in agony for longer than usual. Later he named a song after that Kode to express his sadness to others.

Zachack fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Dec 31, 2022

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

I believe in all the ways that they say you can lose your body
Fallen Rib
His mom clearly died FROM 9/11, not IN 9/11.
I'm sure at this point the dude is just a compulsive liar and that is probably why he thought he would be so good at politics.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

Madkal posted:

His mom clearly died FROM 9/11, not IN 9/11.
I'm sure at this point the dude is just a compulsive liar and that is probably why he thought he would be so good at politics.
It's a good skill! Impressive in a hosed-up way how long he could keep up these blatant and insane lies. Do the Dems not do any kind of oppo research or anything? It would not have been hard at all to dismantle these lies.

I really think this stuff with him will pretty much blow over by the time he seeks re-election, given how similar things with Trumbo, etc., have gone.

BRJurgis
Aug 15, 2007

Well I hear the thunder roll, I feel the cold winds blowing...
But you won't find me there, 'cause I won't go back again...
While you're on smoky roads, I'll be out in the sun...
Where the trees still grow, where they count by one...

cat botherer posted:

It's a good skill! Impressive in a hosed-up way how long he could keep up these blatant and insane lies. Do the Dems not do any kind of oppo research or anything? It would not have been hard at all to dismantle these lies.

I really think this stuff with him will pretty much blow over by the time he seeks re-election, given how similar things with Trumbo, etc., have gone.

Leave Dalton alone! (Ok, Johnny got his gun wasn't exactly an enjoyable read).

Since I learned about this Tate guy (yesterday) I've been asking around and nobody seems to know who the gently caress he is. Of course the large majority of people I interact with daily do not have social media, which seems increasingly to be an objectively good decision for individuals and society at large.

Lager
Mar 9, 2004

Give me the secret to the anti-puppet equation!

BRJurgis posted:

Leave Dalton alone! (Ok, Johnny got his gun wasn't exactly an enjoyable read).

Since I learned about this Tate guy (yesterday) I've been asking around and nobody seems to know who the gently caress he is. Of course the large majority of people I interact with daily do not have social media, which seems increasingly to be an objectively good decision for individuals and society at large.

This also probably means you're old. It's okay. I am, too.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Apparently Dems did do oppo research and shopped it around to various media but none bit (of course they were playing up different bits of his background not necessarily all the outright lies the NYT displayed).

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

I'm amused at the utter failure of New York media to hold a very simple to bury candidate like George Santos to account because they likely expected the Republicans to win overwhelmingly or wanted them to. The failing New York Times!

Now the Times is doing click-stories like it's anything else that's happening that wasn't a direct result of their incompetence. I'm glad all the journos who went out swinging on twitter the day this was revealed have all suddenly gone silent.

Nonsense fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Dec 31, 2022

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Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
The local press apparently had him dead to rights but nobody paid attention. Big media was too busy running bullshit about scary democrats defunding the police or whatever

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Odd we haven’t gotten a statement from his uncle who works at Nintendo.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Hieronymous Alloy posted:

The local press apparently had him dead to rights but nobody paid attention. Big media was too busy running bullshit about scary democrats defunding the police or whatever
I mean Mayor Adams spent all of his time during the campaign saying that crime was out of control which I really think hurt Dems a lot in the general NYC area

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
All the media in New York was too busy wailing about how crime was at Death Wish levels to look into some guy that lost last cycle. Meanwhile the Democrats are desperately lying that they knew it, but the mean old media just wouldn't pick up the story. Here's their oppo research https://dccc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/George-Santos-Research-Book.pdf As far as I can tell from quickly skimming through it, they realized some comparatively low level for a politician financial malfeasance was going on. However they didn't even really dig into that. All the insane lies that have recently been uncovered are nowhere to be found in their research. Almost all their research is focused on showing that Santos is as MAGA as he says he is. Congrats, you missed the forest for the weeds.

The media and the dems are both to blame for refusing to pull a single thread on Santos' apparent complete fabrication of nearly everything. There's no way that, for instance, you know that he's been lying about his parents dying in 9/11 and just don't mention it ever. loving this up is just another in the pile of ways the New York Democrats completely poo poo the bed across the board this cycle and, just like every other way, they're lying through their teeth about how it's not actually their fault.

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projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Gyges posted:

All the media in New York was too busy wailing about how crime was at Death Wish levels to look into some guy that lost last cycle. Meanwhile the Democrats are desperately lying that they knew it, but the mean old media just wouldn't pick up the story. Here's their oppo research https://dccc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/George-Santos-Research-Book.pdf As far as I can tell from quickly skimming through it, they realized some comparatively low level for a politician financial malfeasance was going on. However they didn't even really dig into that. All the insane lies that have recently been uncovered are nowhere to be found in their research. Almost all their research is focused on showing that Santos is as MAGA as he says he is. Congrats, you missed the forest for the weeds.

The media and the dems are both to blame for refusing to pull a single thread on Santos' apparent complete fabrication of nearly everything. There's no way that, for instance, you know that he's been lying about his parents dying in 9/11 and just don't mention it ever. loving this up is just another in the pile of ways the New York Democrats completely poo poo the bed across the board this cycle and, just like every other way, they're lying through their teeth about how it's not actually their fault.

It's fine. It doesn't matter. A Republican can't win New York it's a safe seat. So we can just do whatever and Santos will lose by 9 points.

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