Chinatown posted:

lol

https://twitter.com/lapsisbeeftech/status/1579628242616848384

Dick Jones posted:

I don't understand the uproar over the phone thing. I'm trying to picture someone who has the money for a gaming PC or a console with XBL/PSN subscription on top of monthly broadband internet, but no phone? Seems like the phone ought to be the first thing on the priority list.

DrBox posted:

I think the issue was how the FCC was classifying certain carriers, so popular pay as you go options like Cricket were denied. They could easily provide an alternative for people with "burner phones" like submitting ID or something.

evilmiera posted:

My main problem with the heroes is nothing at all to do with how they play, but how they all feel like soulless shells as characters. Like whoever wrote them either didn't understand how people act or were kept to very harsh limits on what they could express and do so as not to offend anyone, ever.

Which I realize is probably completely ignored by 99 percent of players who just want to capture points and shoot stuff. But even TF2 had distinct and funny characters with memorable scenes way beyond a game like this with a bigger budget and greater need to compete.

Cpt_Obvious posted:

It's really hard to identify and improve your own play if you blame every loss on someone else.

BabyRyoga posted:

Sym and Bastion changes seem cool.

Those sojourn changes though sound more like a buff than a nerf TBH. She does more primary fire damage, and she shoots her railgun off way more often. It can't 1HKO full health targets inherently anymore, but what happens against discorded targets or with a mercy?

Don't even know what to say about the doom changes. If a hero is weak, you give them a slight buff and see if it makes a difference. Rinse, repeat. They decided to buff pretty much EVERYTHING in Doom's kit for some reason, from damage done, to ability uptime, to utility, to survivability. Someone is ACTUALLY smoking crack down at the Blizzard offices. The hero wasn't even that bad; it was typically more playable than Sym and even JQ (who got the proper nerf she needed, but none of the buffs she also needed?) in S1.

whalestory posted:

Is he really that chill? I remember catching some youtube videos from his where he spectates bronze players and he just seems like a mean rear end in a top hat yelling at this monitor

Is he just a content creator for sf shock or something like that?

Herstory Begins Now posted:

they're kinda hosed there because they have a shitload of different game modes and a clearly insufficient playerbase to actually have fast matchmaking so they have to compromise on something to keep it from taking 10 minutes to fill a lobby.

I'll never understand why the compromise is mmr range when they could just... not have 16 different game modes

Herstory Begins Now posted:

this is literally the first time ever I've seen someone suggest that # of game modes determines how toxic a game is

Issaries posted:

It is a good poo poo post article.
He has gotten '240' coins by playing since launch, which is less than quarter available. Getting first tier of weeklies every other week?
Yeah, but Microsoft points are easier coins to collect.

Cpt_Obvious posted:

....wtf? Is it banned?

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

it’s probably support players giving up and playing something else or queueing for a different role, since queue times for everyone else are still pretty awful

Mega Comrade posted:

It started life as a more casual game that blizzard have retroactively tried to make an eSport and they have shown they are not good at game or meta balance. You're just setting yourself up for an incredibly frustrating time.

Father Wendigo posted:

The guy in charge of the studio might have said some things to the QA staff.

Runa posted:

I actually was interested in the PvE lmao

Runa posted:

"nobody even cares about the PvE campaign mode" (cancels mode)

every single casual and character fan who was holding out hope is now typing...

PantsBandit posted:

OW has almost no good writing. The only "story" element they've ever had going for them is likable characters.

Teriyaki Koinku posted:

Lots of sour grapes coming from inside the thread lol.

A big reason why people clung onto the OW 1->2 transition in the first place was for the expected PvE content and that PvP was just to bide players' time until then.

Considering this is the same company behind Diablo Immortal, Warcraft 3 Reforged, one of the industry's most exploitative battle passes and in-game shops in the form of OW2 (a Trojan horse as another poster aptly commented), etc it's hard for me to imagine how anyone still has any trust or faith in what Blizzard does anymore besides being a cynical and soulless cash grab con artist.

imagine dungeons posted:

Pretty sure once Kaplan left there was no intention on really finishing PvE and everyone just lied a bunch.

Vermain posted:

entirely believable, especially since diablo's one of their few remaining properties with the cultural cache necessary to be a breakout hit if they stick the landing

IronicDongz posted:

petition for anyone who unprompted brings up rule 34 in the overwatch thread to be thrown into the ocean

dogstile posted:

Success doesn't mean good. WoW still has like 2 mil subscribers

Javik the Seer posted:

There are so many balance and design decisions that I am just at a loss for some of them. A lot are probably my partiality towards or against certain characters, but its crazy that some of these things haven't been done yet.

Why do you start defenders at the far spawn in these cart push maps? What benefit is there to having someone who picks their hero late be super duper far away? Just have them spawn on the first point for defenders and they can spawn further back when they die? A lot of games have had their whole dynamic changed because a tank didn't decide fast enough and now they gotta hustle across the whole map when they could just spawn at the first point and be done. Once the game starts, THEN open up the far spawn. Just a pitfall they create to push players into and it makes no sense.

Why does push mode exist? Why can't players decide which map types they would like to play? Why are so many stats so opaque and hidden from the players? We know they have the data like heat maps and mitigation stats, why hide that stuff?

Going invulnerable should be a huge deal but Blizz's response to any kind of balance challenge anymore is to just "meh, make em immoral/invulnerable/ethereal" instead of mitigation or movement stuff. The amount of just negation that can be done is one o the things that makes the game a bit unfun a lot of times. Their whole philosophy was "favor the shooter" when the game first came out, but they hid the massive asterisks of "unless they use any number of literal get out of jail free abilities we have implemented". Particularly egregious is how long suzu lasts on the invuln, as well as immortality field and moira's dash that can literally traverse vertically an entire flight of stairs without stairs. Just silly stuff.

Snippers have never been fun to play against since they were a thing in like 1994. Since then balancing against them has been a struggle with, in my view, the best iteration being TF2. Immobile, have to hold it down, your reticle is counterable, and there are a bunch of tools to mess with a snipers ability to just delete folks. A high skill player will still have fun, but opponents have plenty of alternatives to deal with them. You see other methods to reign them in with varying degrees of success like in CS:GO making the AWP expensive and restrictive, in Apex they are very rare and have bullet drop, small clip, high reload etc.
What did Blizz do? Lets give her literally zero recoil, allow her to fly into the air to silently change their angle, give her wall hacks (without enemy notification on top of that!) as an ultimate, and give her nearly unlimited range with almost zero counter play from that distance. I just do not understand how they thought this would be fun and the inclusion of this character has likely made other design decisions suffer. Snippers have always been fun to play AS but never to play AGAINST and forcing that type of character into the game was just boneheaded and this change to Widow should have been this way from the get go. Her entire kit should be reworked.

It reminds of how Cassidy (then McCree) could Fan the Hammer and delete literally every character from the game, including tanks, from like 50 meters away, and they had to reduce his damage and falloff. Its like...did you guys even play test this before release? Also in relation to that, how did they think an auto aiming, 10 meter away, ONE HUNDRED THIRTY DAMAGE GRENADE would be a balance improvement over a flashbang? That is basically awarding two free shots to a Cassidy by virtue of pressing the tactical button. I've seen that thing go around corners, just ridiculous stuff.

I know the game isn't going to be perfect and its not always going to be balanced in a way EVERYONE likes. There just seems to be this very intentional..i dunno, ignoring, maybe? Of serious quality of life and balance aspects of the game that a company like Blizz should really know better how to handle. It makes me sad because the characters and world are really cool and they have just drove it directly into the ground due to their greed and mismanagement.

BabyRyoga posted:

Valorant and OW are completely different genres, not sure what you mean by 'the direction OW should've gone'. In terms of what?

Pattonesque posted:

I'm convinced people do not have their headphones on because like ... you can *hear* a sombra opening up on your backline, and you can *hear* the reaper teleporting into place and you can *hear* cassidy clomping about for a high noon flank and most of them simply do not react

Jack Trades posted:

Completely unrelated news.

Doomykins posted:

Endorph posted:

i like that pharah and mercy are a couple people like so they went 'uhh yeah they're totally the same age' even though it makes no sense

Gravitas Shortfall posted:

All of his excuses are "we are so loving stupid, just.. just complete loving morons"

Like sure my dude, you didn't think Mythic skins having less and less customisation options would be a problem. Your entire team has brains as smooth as marble. That's definitely it.

Endorph posted:

literally every fan interpretation of everyone is better because theres anything there at all

Relyssa posted:

gremlin dva is the best thing to come out of this terrible game

Runa posted:

It's very funny to me that they had a lead writer, Michael Chu. And, bless his heart, pretty much the only thing people remember him actually doing was shooting down all of the weird fan theories which, while they were admittedly pretty weird, were also like ten times as interesting as the story that they actually got.

Like there was a hot minute where people thought Mercy might've been a secret mad scientist, through some overly generous reads on some pre-battle chatter, and he pretty much just said no, that's silly. And all of the interesting theory stuff was instead shunted off onto a new character, Moira.

Which is a shame, because it would've been better if there were two mad scientists but Blizzard had too much basic bitch energy to realize this.

comedyblissoption posted:

all the characters in overwatch are canonically gay, including bob

Dick Jones posted:

She'd lose damage boost though. And bolts from her staff aren't as funny as zipping around shooting and pistol-whipping people.