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Just Another Lurker posted:Sooo, the best army to defeat Russia..... is Russia? Aren't they the #1 weapons supplier of Ukraine?
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May 13, 2023 16:37
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Tai posted:17th of May 2022 marks the day that the worlds former second largest army first started their offensive to take Bakhmut So in just under 4 days it'll be a whole year to try (and fail) to take a small city. World's
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May 13, 2023 23:11
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Even if the PAC gets blown up in a day or two, the amount of infra it's already saved is well worth the cost. They've already splashed 30 missiles/drones/rockets that were trying to take it out, and any one of those could have been a building or critical piece of infrastructure. Or, y'know, something strategically important like ammo storage, but lol at russia opting for the non-war-crimey possibility.
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May 16, 2023 06:43
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Not to buy into Russia declarations about anything, but the track record of those drone boats seems pretty lovely. Wonder if they're worth the cost; you could say they're keeping the Black Sea fleet on its toes but the antiship missiles UAF field seem to be doing that on their own. So the russian position on the downed jets is....the American system is just TOO good and plinks all russian airpower out of the sky at will? That's...an interesting take from the military dictatorship.
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May 24, 2023 15:31
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Isn't smoking a bridge typically used to hide unit movements and/or obscure the bridge against attacks? Though why they're just smoking a tiny part of it would be the question...testing?
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May 25, 2023 05:53
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I disagree about Romney. Outside of their troll farms and the nuclear arsenal (assuming that it works, of course) Russia is not anywhere close to being the main threat to the US. Now, a regional threat to their neighbors? Totally different story, as we've seen time and again.
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May 25, 2023 17:53
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Also Saldo: "Ah, Kherson. Truly the Venice of Ukr...er, Russia! Come visit!"
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Jun 6, 2023 15:47
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Tunicate posted:Dr. Rovatnik  Well played, sir.
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Jun 6, 2023 22:37
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mobby_6kl posted:lmao yeah I think Wanker accused the regulars of mining their retreating route and capture one of their commanders even, pretty bizarre And stole tanks, ammo, and heavy equipment. Can't forget that. 5-finger discounted procurement!
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Jun 9, 2023 16:39
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....ok, a republican has finally done something I agree with. Someone mark down the day! This is the kind of hardball I can get behind.
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Jun 14, 2023 15:37
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It's like Steak-umms, but with more remote "smoking incident" capability! There's been bipartisan noises coming from congress about giving AFU these weapons, so Biden's probably feeling more comfortable discussing it and entertaining the idea. Which won't be total game-changers per se, but they'll definitely shake things up a bunch.
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Jun 14, 2023 19:11
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Der Kyhe posted:I thought that there weren't enough ATACMS to make a difference in Ukraine, because US wants to hang on to a certain amount in their inventory, and no-one is making new ones at the moment? We certainly have enough to "make a difference" but we can't make more. However, these missiles are Old Tech from 20-30 years ago (that's 1990s-2000s era) and their replacement PrSM (Precision Strike Missile) is still coming on-line. If the pentagon feels that the PrSM rollout is far enough along that we can spare the older stuff...well, then the conversation gets interesting. Alternatively, we can probably spare a few dozen of them to give Ukraine limited long-range capability so they can attack distant targets. That may or may not be bridge-shaped.
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Jun 14, 2023 19:25
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Let's hope Russia never develops pallet technology.
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Jun 14, 2023 19:51
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So long distance drone, but tiny warhead. Might be enough to kickstart an ammo dump 'splosion?
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Jun 20, 2023 19:16
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Victis posted:Shahed drones have a 15-50kg warhead by comparison, but part of what makes them annoying is their small size Huh. For some reason I thought it had a bigger payload. These would wreak havoc if they're at all accurate (remains to be seen)
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Jun 20, 2023 20:00
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Welp. Time to queue up "Ride of the Valkyries" and see how close this clown car gets to Moscow.
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Jun 23, 2023 20:55
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Toxic Mental posted:Quick and dirty My god, not the purple nurple! This situation is definitely escalating.
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Jun 23, 2023 21:55
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Disappointed in Shoigu. He had the chance to make a killer conversation pit and he went with chairs.
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Jun 27, 2023 20:13
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https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1673636872835170306 Well, wrap it up. Orban has spoken.
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Jun 29, 2023 07:03
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BoldFace posted:At this rate, they'll still be fighting over Bakhmut five years from now. It's only been--what, a few weeks, a month?--or so since Bakhmut was taken, and Ukraine is taking solid steps to cut it off from support. Barring some massive game changer like Russia blowing ZPP or the russian version of Patton arising to command Ukraine will have pushed the front past that city before the end of summer. Nothing's guaranteed, of course. But so far they've been making good progress.
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Jun 30, 2023 00:04
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Could cluster munitions also serve as a makeshift mine clearance tool?
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Jun 30, 2023 03:12
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mobby_6kl posted:How are there still so many mobiks? Have they done another round of mobilization that I missed? Hundred of thousands of mobiks takes a while to churn through. Even with how Russia is tossing them away into meatgrinders. Put it like this: if you believe Kyiv's numbers (which you shouldn't take at face value) the initial invasion force has been neutralized (in pure numbers), with all the 200k-300k mobilized troops still to go. They have plenty of manpower.
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Jul 3, 2023 19:40
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DiomedesGodshill posted:JFC the rockets that fly off into the surrounding neighborhoods. They don't even use pallets for quicker logistics. it's literally a pile of rockets out in the open. Russian logi is both turbo lazy and inefficient. As far as being located right next to a hospital and residential area, well--human shields/guaranteed collateral damage is a feature, not a bug. Edit: VVVV The US, France, and GB threatening to rain (conventional) missile hellfire on their units the likes of which God has never seen probably had something to do with it too. OAquinas fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 5, 2023 |
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Jul 5, 2023 20:04
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I can't wait for the rubble to be the next Iraqi Dinar currency fad.
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Jul 6, 2023 16:23
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celewign posted:I'm not sure what cluster bombs the US is giving away, but if it's the newer CBU the bomblets should deactivate on a timer and limit UXO issues. Yeah, the US may be an imperialistic hegemony, but credit where it's due--all our stuff for the last generation or two has focused on reducing UXO situations.
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Jul 6, 2023 22:38
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Yeah, the REAL UXO threat is the fuckton of mines Russia has laid across dozens if not hundreds of kilometers (I'm bad with distances). I guaran-drat-tee that their stuff doesn't go inert after a while, and Russia sure as poo poo hasn't marked out the minefields beyond "don't go past this line on your map" A few dozen or even a few hundred unexploded submunitions is like complaining about a light rain when you're in the deep end of a pool.
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Jul 6, 2023 23:50
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Zippy the Bummer posted:how many 155 shells would Ukraine need to meet or exceed rus arty advantage, and why don't they already have them? I'm sure there is a given reason and I'm guessing it is stupid / lazy They need more 155mm shells than can be made currently. The real takeaway from this war is "lol the west has dogshit munitions production capacity for what a peer war requires" As far as giving from existing stocks, the US's position is that it's maintaining a certain level of reserves for any potential conflict, and Ukraine will get what we can spare. Which, to be fair, is still a hell of a lot.
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Jul 7, 2023 19:13
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Tunicate posted:The US also doesn't focus on artillery as part of doctrine, and isn't spending money to kick up manufacturing for someone else's war Actually... https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/2023/03/28/us-army-eyes-six-fold-production-boost-of-155mm-shells-used-in-ukraine/ Sixfold production increase has been ordered.
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Jul 7, 2023 19:19
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Nelson Mandingo posted:But WHAT about AMERICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Don't worry, some states are working to be at parity with Russia on this issue. Which just shows that America Bad!
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Jul 14, 2023 13:52
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mobby_6kl posted:Better than the last day before retirement Not for the doctor. 
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Aug 2, 2023 16:50
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With regards to the DPRK/North Korean arms shipments, I have to wonder if the quality of their product is better than the stuff they used for their propaganda pieces. I recall seeing one a few years ago and while the audio was dubbed you could still visibly see numerous misfires and jams in their wildly-firing automatic rifles. Of course, they could have been using ancient stockpiled ammo for this and not (presumably) more reliable, newer stuff...but if I was a mobik watching those reels I'd get me some dinosaur head grabber sticks to handle those munitions at arms' length.
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Aug 16, 2023 18:32
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Zero VGS posted:The way he wrote that reads like it's pro-Ukraine Medvedev is much like Bluto in animal house: just say "Forget it; he's rolling." no matter what inconsistencies or batshittery he espouses in the moment. Because I assure you--he already has.
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Aug 17, 2023 02:12
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canyoneer posted:Obama dragged Mitt Romney during the 2012 election for saying that Russia was the US's greatest geopolitical foe. Then there was the invasion of Crimea and intervening on the side of the autocrats in the Syrian Civil War. Ehh...I don't know if Obama was wrong. My position is that Russia is a regional power with limited projection capabilities. They weren't utterly toothless, obviously, but I'd venture to say China was/is more a 'greatest geopolitical rival.' Russia had some int'l sway due to an established weapons manufacturing business held over from the Soviet days, and their oil exports, but their alliances didn't run deep. Of course, a regional power seeking to flex is still extremely dangerous if you happen to be in that region. And especially if you essentially lacked a trained military worthy of the name. Edit: Their nuclear arsenal is really the only thing worthy of a "rival" designation, and that's a defensive guarantor only. Unless/until Putin or his successor goes batshit insane(r). OAquinas fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Aug 22, 2023 |
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Aug 22, 2023 19:48
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HonorableTB posted:The nuclear arsenal is the sole and also most important reason they are a superpower and not a regional power. That detail really does make all the difference because if you can end global civilization on your own, by definition you are a global power. It's also an empty threat. "I can end the world!" well that's nice and all but you die too, soo... They serve to keep Russia from being invaded (in a serious manner; no one expects the Belgorod shenanigans to stick) and to keep the US at arm's length. But all that buys them is operating room, and their ability to project beyond their backyard was limited to Wagner. Their economy has been poo poo and their space program has been decaying at an ever-increasing rate. So yeah, if you're far away and are a dictator or dictator wanna-be you can get some decent firepower behind you, but if Russia wasn't invited in they couldn't muscle in. Their military simply isn't a credible invasion force (unless you border them already)--and that was true then as well as now. China's economic alliances are far more of a threat to american interests. And they, too, have enough nukes to delete anyone on earth and no one is second guessing their nukes' viability if they had to launch. Russia wasn't inconsequential, but it also wasn't the biggest threat to the US outside of everyone-dies-anyway nuclear war.
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Aug 22, 2023 20:27
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zone posted:Yes, but it wasn't one launcher, but a whole battery and their radars. Now this is potentially some Actual Content. How do you even lose an entire spread-out battery? ...wait, they just parked all the systems next to each other, didn't they?
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Aug 23, 2023 13:31
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hazardousmouse posted:wait, India and Russia were both landing stuff within days of each other? Were they competing? Just a orbital timing thing where it was advantageous? India's lander was actually offensive and damaged Russia's, right? Unlike other bodies in the solar system, there isn't much incentive to wait for an optimal window for the moon outside of time of day. So one or the other was competing, or it was just incredible coincidence. Edit: ^^ Exactly. You can take fuel-efficient long treks to it or you can come in burning. In Russia's case, they just hit the emergency brake from ludicrous speed and held it too long so their deceleration into captured orbit became a lithobraking trajectory. OAquinas fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Aug 23, 2023 |
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Aug 23, 2023 14:18
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Issaries posted:In Moons case the day is almost the length of a Earths month. India timed the landing to start of the lunar day to get most out of their solar panels. Ach, good point. Forgot about the tidally locked long day. Yeah, that would definitely limit your launch window for a specific landing area. I was thinking more of just the "Get into orbit" phase, but yeah--no sense leaving it parked there when you could just time the launch better. You can do some crazy Expanse-course-plotting stuff with a tiny injection motor, if you have the patience for it.
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Aug 23, 2023 16:32
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Tigey posted:He fell out of the plane window. Dammit, you beat me to it. Well played.
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Aug 23, 2023 18:20
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spankmeister posted:Ukraine should make inflatable decoy hospitals and schools and theaters and such They serve both as decoys and as bouncy castles. Win/win!
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Aug 31, 2023 18:24
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Don't forget that they're raiding the pension funds of their citizens.
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Sep 13, 2023 17:43
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