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The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

The situation at bakhmut appears to be grim. The bridge is leading to the east of town have been destroyed as Ukraine continues to move troops to the west side of town. Now there's a pretty large water crossing on the east side and I would surmise that Russia is going to close in the pincers instead of going off frontal assault on this but that could definitely be wrong.

Solov almost got killed in vuhledar. This is important because he's one of Putin's leading propaganda mouthpieces. So for him to literally almost get shelled is quite interesting in comparison to Biden rolling up to Kyiv in a train and hanging out. Aswell as Zelensky visiting the Frontlines with no reprisal.

I doubt that the ukrainians were specifically targeting him.


In other news and kadyrov apparently is having a crisis of the kidneys. People are claiming that he has been poisoned. As the kidneys backup once the liver starts to fail it could be other things.

With this poisoning we could see a reconcentration of power however this may not be by Putin exactly but by other elements in the Russian government who are trying to solidify their grasp on the future post Putin Russia.

More time will tell.

Russia also attempted a massive armored assault at Vuhledar that went spectacularly wrong with them losing a total of over 100 tanks and BTRs in one day.

On the 'Kadyrov is dying' front, this also happened:
https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1631978452944404480?s=20

I can see this kind of 'boy-king' thing working for the Kim dynasty since they spent decades building up the family as gods and have the massive state-level structures to support it, but I don't see it lasting long in a place like Chechnya where Kadyrov dying would likely result in lots of internal infighting and purges.

The_Franz fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Mar 5, 2023

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The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

HonorableTB posted:

That's because Bakhmut's purpose has changed several times over the course of the war. It has been a prepared defensive position even before the 2022 invasion, and when Ukraine retreated from Severodonetsk, Bakhmut was the planned fallback position. It's first purpose was to attrit Russian forces, which was much less strategically important compared to the Kherson and Kharkiv counteroffensives (and indeed was crucial to the Kharkiv counteroffensive because the Bakhmut actions during the summer of 2022 drastically depleted the Russian forces in Bakhmut oblast to compensate, opening the door for Ukrainian advancement).

Bakhmut's purpose transformed most recently about a month or two ago, or when you (in general) noticed the shift in the coverage on Bakhmut and how it is now being portrayed as a very strategically important place, contrary to the last year of the war. It switched from an attrition generator to a force-pinner. The Russians engaged at Bakhmut can't be sent or used elsewhere, and they're being mulched on the daily. Bakhmut is now strategically important because once again it is the fulcrum on which Ukrainian counter-offensives operate on, and this time it's going to be towards the Sea of Azov. The more Russians are at Bakhmut, the fewer there are elsewhere.

At this point, Russia's sunk cost in terms of lives fed into the grinder and machines turned to scrap while trying to take Bakhmut is enormous. Putin is likely just desperate for something he can sell to the Russian people as progress, even if any victory in Bakhmut is entirely pyrrhic.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003


Nikolai Volkoff (Josip Peruzović) was actually Croatian.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

https://www.dvidshub.net/news/440347/russian-aircraft-collides-into-us-unmanned-system-international-waters

quote:

Two Russian Su-27 aircraft conducted an unsafe and unprofessional intercept with a U.S. Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance unmanned MQ-9 aircraft that was operating within international airspace over the Black Sea today.

At approximately 7:03 AM (CET), one of the Russian Su-27 aircraft struck the propeller of the MQ-9, causing U.S. forces to have to bring the MQ-9 down in international waters. Several times before the collision, the Su-27s dumped fuel on and flew in front of the MQ-9 in a reckless, environmentally unsound and unprofessional manner. This incident demonstrates a lack of competence in addition to being unsafe and unprofessional.

“Our MQ-9 aircraft was conducting routine operations in international airspace when it was intercepted and hit by a Russian aircraft, resulting in a crash and complete loss of the MQ-9,” said U.S. Air Force Gen. James B. Hecker, commander, U.S. Air Forces Europe and Air Forces Africa. “In fact, this unsafe and unprofessional act by the Russians nearly caused both aircraft to crash.”

“U.S. and Allied aircraft will continue to operate in international airspace and we call on the Russians to conduct themselves professionally and safely,” Hecker added.

This incident follows a pattern of dangerous actions by Russian pilots while interacting with U.S. and Allied aircraft over international airspace, including over the Black Sea. These aggressive actions by Russian aircrew are dangerous and could lead to miscalculation and unintended escalation.

U.S. Air Forces in Europe – Air Forces Africa routinely fly aircraft throughout Europe over sovereign territory and throughout international airspace in coordination with applicable host nation and international laws. In order to bolster collective European defense and security, these missions support Allied, partner, and U.S. national objectives.

Sounds like some Russian fighters were behaving recklessly in international air space, which isn't without precedent.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

You have to be pretty goddamn ignorant/stupid to risk your life trying to intimidate an unmanned drone to the point that you collide with it though.

The only thing the drone pilot in an office in Nevada sipping a coffee likely thought was "WTF is wrong with these people? Are they drunk or suicidal?"

The_Franz fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Mar 14, 2023

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

DiomedesGodshill posted:

They would both explode and not much else. Iran shot one down and the US just wagged a finger.

Russia losing a fighter to go kamikaze on a Reaper drone is like a poor person crashing their hooptie into some rich person's Mercedes for spite: after the initial 'gotcha!' wears off, the rich person gets another car in a day or two with no real hassle, while the poor guy doesn't have the resources to easily replace what was lost.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Stink Billyums posted:

that's like 2% of the fighting age male population dead or injured, even with a fairly liberal interpretation of "fighting age"

Don’t forget the 900000+ who left the country when mobilization was announced.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

To note, countries toe the line with military planes in international airspace all the time. They fly near a border, the other guys send planes out to let them know they see them, and that's just how the game works. Even before this, Russian pilots were generally notorious for being a bit more slipshod when it comes to this dance.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

HonorableTB posted:

Latest casualties:



That's a decent amount of tanks and a great number of artillery systems taken out. The Ukrainians have been focusing a lot on artillery for the past few months so seeing double digit systems out of action on the daily will help upcoming offensives.

Also they lost 13 UAVs lol, they really don't have a lot of those to be losing double digits in a day

Putin: "How did we lose so many tanks in a day?"
Officer: "Well, they kind of drove into a ditch..."
Putin: "They did?"
Officer: "Well, replace 'kind of' with 'repeatedly', and the word 'ditch', with 'mine field'."

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Moldova did just change their official language back to Romanian from Moldovian, as the Moldovian language was basically invented by the Soviet occupiers. Either way, as long as their weird Russian-libertarian breakaway region exists (which Russia was trying to connect to by taking Odessa), nobody is going to want to touch them.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003


That's not actually Musk's favorite poster catturd, just some other psycho dipshit with a similar name.

That libertarian/tankie from Texas is still alive and reposting Russian propaganda on vk/telegram (nothing terribly funny or interesting, just the usual talking points handed down from above). No doubt that if things go south he will be speeding across the Russian border with the rest of his ilk while furiously ranting about how the west needs to be nuked before NATO-backed Ukro-homo-nazis can sap and impurify his precious bodily fluids.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003


Authoritarian regimes love this Übermensch crap, but none of it will help you in modern combat where you can't even see who is raining artillery on you.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

zone posted:

https://twitter.com/Mike_Eckel/status/1641716943576088578
Russian General: We assure you you won't be sent to Ukraine to assault dug in defenders in piecemeal numbers.
Also Russian general: I lied!

Of course not, they'll just be pressed really, really hard into signing contracts so they can be deployed on the front lines.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

Yeah for those who don't know, the Kamchatka was a Russian supply ship on the Voyage of the Damned, who nearly started a war with the United Kingdom. Off the coast of England the Kamchatka decided she had spotted Japanese torpedo boats (OFF THE COAST OF ENGLAND. JAPANESE. TORPEDO BOATS) and started firing at them. They were British fishing trawlers. In the ensuing fire fight the Russians managed to kill one British sailor, but also one Russian sailor and a Russian chaplain, therefore managing to lose a naval battle against a handful of unarmored fishers.

After repeated similar incidents even the Russian fleet had had enough of the Kamchatka and told her to fall back to the rear of the formation and stop trying to start world wars.

And this isn't even the dumbest thing about the Voyage of the Damned.

Was posted in earlier iterations of the thread, but still worth a watch if you haven't seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzGqp3R4Mx4

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

The cafe where the explosion occurred is owned by Prigozhin.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003


There's some guy in the replies going on about how Ukraine needs to lose because "gay nazis", which is nothing special as these propaganda-poisoned idiots are a dime a dozen, but he then goes on to call anyone who disagrees with him or is against Russian imperialism a 'commie'.

I wouldn't even know how to respond to something that profoundly stupid. The only reasonable explanation is that he doesn't actually know what the word means or any of the historical context it carries.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Toxic Mental posted:

lol Look at the "right wing" of Finland's government that just won the election and it looks positively US Democrat. Man it would be nice to live in a country where THAT is considered "right wing".

"Right wing" in the European sense generally means "this is our country, and our programs and resources are for our people", with varying degrees of anti-EU/anti-minority/no-homo/Putin-rimjobbing sprinkled on top depending on just how far right. They're left of US politicians in the sense that they generally don't want to (completely) gut social programs, but they are very much "this is are country" in every other sense.

Der Kyhe posted:

The Green party is a sad one, the new management threw out basically all technologists and futurists in favor of the city-green "animals are people too", "Mother Earth needs to heal more than you need heating in your house" and "owning a car is just pure selfishness"-idiots.

Yeah, unfortunately green parties across the globe have become havens for hippy-dippy anti-vax, anti-nuclear, isolationist weirdos.

The_Franz fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 3, 2023

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

mobby_6kl posted:

Have I missed this? Lol that elon inadvertently made his tankie buddies mad



https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1642995109527527425?s=20

How does one person manage to self-own so much?

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

pro starcraft loser posted:

China wants Russian oil and European markets.
They can still buy Russian oil pretty much no matter what, but backing Russia too much could cause US and European markets to become an issue for them.

You already have western companies backing off and thinking "hmm, maybe we shouldn't entrust all of our bleeding-edge tech manufacturing to this authoritarian country with designs on imperialism". Russia really shattered the illusion of economic interdependence ensuring stability.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

mobby_6kl posted:

In the meantime, actual russian propaganda is busy promoting the American MIC:

https://i.imgur.com/ZX7P0WV.mp4

(it's cut off because of imgur but you can imagine how it goes)

Russia is basically the one country that can't criticize anyone regarding arms proliferation.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003


Cooking with hoarders knows no borders.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

*flicks cigarette at Russia*

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1644409374444593172?s=20

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Drone_Fragger posted:

*Unveils evidence to international media consisting of RT and Chinese news networks* and here we have on the captured nato spy: four copies of the sims, one bag of poo poo dna matched to vladimir putin, nametag with "American J Europe, NATO spy", written on it, 14 copies of zelenskys autobiography, a ronald reagan party mask and most damning of all, authentic fsb field agent card that was never reported stolen. We can only assume that last one is an oversight from his handlers.

You forgot the standard-issue picture of Hitler and nazi flag.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Sedgr posted:

Happy 4/20 :420:

Putin is a real piece of poo poo.

I'll be testing a few strains today. Got a mixed order Jet Fuel, Sour Mango Diesel, and AK47. The AK47 is particularly good.

Hope everyone gets a chance to peace out. What's the weed situation like in Ukraine?

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/1648672848532127748?s=20

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

As a famous Russian said bakhmut will be the Stalingrad of our time.


WOOPSIES

Except instead of the defenders winning while taking about 1.5 losses for each attacking soldier, the attackers are taking 5+ losses for each defender while making minimal, grinding gains that they probably won't be able to hold in the long run.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

CommissarMega posted:

As horrible as the prospect is, I have to admit some cackling portion of my lizard brain is absolutely salivating for a Chinese reconquista of Russia.

Russia's doctrine of deporting the native populace and moving their people in means that countries with human rights and minority protection laws don't actually want that territory back, because they don't want to inherit hundreds of thousands of Russians. China don't care and would likely either deport the current inhabitants back across the historical Russian border, or re-educate them a la the Uyghurs.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Pekinduck posted:



My posting station.

(Fbi photo of discord leakers bedroom)

How the hell did this person get a security clearance?

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1651419432319688704?s=20

"Well, you are a fine, upstanding member of the community with no debt or drama that could be used to leverage you, but you have dual citizenship with a friendly EU country, so clearance denied."
"Oh, you're an immature edgelord who 'jokes' about leaking documents and turning your mom's car into an "assassination van" that you will use to murder innocent people? Sounds good, clearance granted."

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Deteriorata posted:

He's pro-Putin, pro-China, anti-US, and Armenian genocide denier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do%C4%9Fu_Perin%C3%A7ek

He also got something like 0.2% of the vote when he ran.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

zone posted:

https://twitter.com/KilledInUkraine/status/1653024426126876675
This is totally a very good sign of a very stable army that doesn't lack junior officers in the ranks, who weren't of great quality anyway even when fully trained.

If there's one thing soldiers who've been in the field for some time love, it's inexperienced officers who have never seen combat giving them orders that will get them killed.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

the popes toes posted:

"you think you have the right to dispose of their [Wagner fighters] lives (…) they came here as volunteers and died so you could gorge yourselves in your offices.”

Oh look, he's actually starting to get it.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

quote:

In Kharkiv, the SBU detained a foreign blogger who glorified the crimes of Russians in Ukraine, denied the facts of rocket attacks on Ukrainian cities. And in the spring of 2022, he shot provocative videos in which he tried to record the faces of Ukrainian defenders and insulted them.

His toilet is filthy.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

zone posted:

https://twitter.com/Jack_Mrgln/status/1654479701182758912
Or maybe your soldiers aren't very good and you only took territory because you used prisoners as cannon fodder?

That couch and phone… I hope the 100 year old lady who was living there is safe.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Alan Smithee posted:

https://twitter.com/moscowtimes/status/1656640409139834882?s=46&t=lbKxPpxJyMeDN0i-nFAg4A

“He said the Moscow region administration has greenlit the construction of the expat village and that it will be financed by the relocating families.”

Lmao Grover village

To the adults good riddance, but you just know these people are dragging kids with them who have no say in the matter.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Geisladisk posted:

Also to just test this poo poo in real life strenuous situations. Up until last month nobody in the Pentagon was quite sure how Patriot would stand up to the worst Russia could throw at it. Now they know.

https://twitter.com/jebbbby/status/1658577472072429573?s=20

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Deteriorata posted:

Even better if they finally take the city and Ukraine encircles them and they have to surrender.

Calling it a city at this point is probably being generous; it's basically the world's largest pile of rubble at this point.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Months of fighting and deaths above six-figures (with many more injured) to take roughly 40 km2 of land that's basically useless now.

At that rate they will only need about 1.5 billion troops to take the rest of Ukraine.

The_Franz fucked around with this message at 19:00 on May 20, 2023

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Wee posted:

Another US mess we wont ever sort out until decades later at best and thats fine.

But I still care about the people.

*Russia launches missiles at hospitals and apartment buildings*

"HOW COULD THE US DO THIS!?"

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

https://twitter.com/ABeardedPanda/status/1659758027388633096?s=20

This would explain why there are so many pictures of not-Ukraine claiming to be secret NATO bases destroyed by Russian missiles.

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Owling Howl posted:

Well it is a little silly.

24 February 2022: The 3 day conquest of Ukraine has begun. Our parade uniforms are packed and riot police have been dispatched to secure order in Kyiv and Kharkiv.
20 May 2023: After a year long effort we have conquered the bombed out remains of the 53rd largest city in Ukraine.

*the taking of which resulted in casualty numbers that far exceeded the original population of the city

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The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

the popes toes posted:

Incisive analysis about the corrupt warmongering proxy of the US and the Western Globalist Elite

https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1660694460013920264

https://twitter.com/gabrielmilland/status/1660721595189436429?s=20

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