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live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
The Padres are locking Preller and Melvin in a room together tomorrow to make them work it out (but hopefully they just fire both).

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live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Boone's not in the front office?

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

mcmagic posted:

TERRIBLE hire.

Just wait till Cashman brings him back as a VP of whatever.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
There's no way Votto could end his career that'd be better than getting tossed for arguing balls and strikes.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Bregor posted:

Yes they do, they just decide to carry 84 relievers instead

Teams can only carry 13 pitchers.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
Isn't Schneider an in-house guy they promoted to manager? Atkins is talking about him like he's someone forced on him.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/10/08/major-league-baseball-managers-grossly-underpaid/71106218007/

Bob Melvin is the highest paid manager because of course the Padres have the highest paid manager.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
Snell and Hader to the Orioles is a non-trade that both teams should spend all winter thinking about.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1712926553653350726

No one wants the job because they know Cora'll have more power than them and they'll get fired after a couple of years.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
The Marlins are dumb as poo poo. Schumaker's probably looking for a way out now too.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
That they fired Ng because they wanted to hire a PBO over her sounds like they already know who they want.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
They're looking for a hatchetman so hopefully they get someone from the Rockies or Royals.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Exodor posted:

Dayton Moore is just sort of hanging out with the Rangers. I'm sure he'd love to run another franchise (into the ground).

Eric Hosmer can be manager after Schumaker jumps ship.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
It's a little sad that Click went from an awful work environment (apparently) in Houston to apply for an awful work environment (apparently) in Boston. You'd think his former colleague Bloom would say something to him.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
I don't know if the numbers back this up but at the time the idea was that the bullpen made it a six inning game for the Royals.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
So Betts or Kim could win two Gold Gloves?

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Luigi Thirty posted:

And there’s speculation that Tito wants Kevin Cash to succeed him at Cleveland, but y’all can’t have him.

Going from a cheap smart team to a slightly less cheap smart team feels like a lateral move.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1715425117386264802

How often do teams let their manager who's under contract go to a division rival?

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
Managing the Rays is presumably one of the best jobs in baseball considering how much info they provide and how well they prepare the players.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
https://twitter.com/dennistlin/status/1716191462004768795

Gonna be awkward if he doesn't get the job.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
Melvin going to the Giants actually saves them four million dollars, minus whatever the new manager costs.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

FlamingLiberal posted:

Why would Buck want that job

The Angels are going to be terrible next year

He's 67 and not a particularly good manager.

There's also only so many jobs. He's not going back to the Mets so it's Anaheim, San Francisco, Cleveland and maybe Houston and the Giants are reportedly leaning Melvin (and the Padres leaning Shildt or Flaherty) and the Guardians Vogt. Milwaukee and Houston could also open up but neither of them seem like teams that would want a guy like Buck.

live with fruit fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Oct 24, 2023

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

FlamingLiberal posted:

The Giants are hiring Bob Melvin from the Padres

Whatever baseball's Rooney Rule is called is clearly bull poo poo, especially if the Padres just promote Shildt and the Mets poach Counsell.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Eric the Mauve posted:

Chemistry can definitely be overstated but I also do not believe a team whose best and most prominent player is Manny Machado will ever win anything.

Good thing the Padres have Tatis and Soto then. There was actually an article in the San Diego Union Tribune before the season ended about how Machado would blow off practice and show up late to things despite being the team leader and he basically called it fake news.

It's starting to come out what a meddler the Padres' owner is. He signed Machado to that monster extension even though Preller signed Bogaerts to basically replace him cause they're friends and he hired Melvin, who never got along with Preller.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1717190651480084485

Based on the Melvin precedent, the Brewers are going to need a new manager.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

bawfuls posted:

Trea Turner has a growing body of postseason disappearing acts at this point, with quite the funny trend:

Postseason OPS overall: .703 in 252 PA

WC - 1.300
DS - .759
CS - .596
WS - .429

Don't forget his bad defense.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

bawfuls posted:

Because over 162 games those teams showed they weren’t that good. Anything can happen over a shorter series of games. (Like a losing streak in September, or the postseason)

The Brewers won 92 games.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Eric the Mauve posted:

In a division so bad it made the Cubs look good.

It doesn't matter with the balanced schedule.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

zoux posted:

Save one.

Tommy Pham's finally going to get his pay day.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
I don't see anything the Yankees could trade that'd be worth San Diego's while considering that the Padres have a better farm system.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Well Played Mauer posted:

The padres need veteran leaders who know how to win to get the team going in the right direction. Clearly the man to tip the scales is Anthony Rizzo.

That was the best part of the article. "Maybe the Yankees could add Rizzo and his contract to their mediocre prospects to get Soto." The New York media is hilarious.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Well Played Mauer posted:

Yeah the package needs to start with Volpe and probably King, then some arms close to the majors? That’s about what Boston got for Mookie.

"The Red Sox got the Dodgers to take Price with Betts so maybe the Yankees can get the Padres to take Rizzo for Soto."

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Well Played Mauer posted:

I didn’t mean to imply my joke was serious?

Me neither.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Red posted:

Juan Soto plays in a pitcher's park yet has a poor negative dWAR, the worst on the team by far.

Grisham and Tatis are elite defenders so being worse than them doesn't mean much.

Soto's numbers are bad but he makes the routine plays. Anyone who says they wouldn't want him cause of his defense is looking for a reason to not want him.

And there's like two feet between the line and the side wall in left at Petco.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

Well Played Mauer posted:

I cross-referenced Soto against another bat-first left fielder, Manuel Aristides Ramírez, who was a defensive trainwreck even at Fenway. In Manny's first six full seasons, he accumulated 34.4 WAR. Soto's racked up 28.7, and that includes two years where he missed time.

Soto also went into a funk after the only team he had ever played for leaked their contract offer to save face before trading him.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
The dumb about all the Soto mock trades people come up with is that it's mostly for minor league depth. The Padres have a good farm system, they don't need to trade their best hitter to restock.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
For as bad as the Betts trade was, the Red Sox still got Verdugo and rid of Price, and the Padres don't have a contract like Price's to dump. If the Padres only get prospects back, they have to go out and replace Soto, which would cut into the savings they're trading their best hitter to get.

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Aug 15, 2010

Sydin posted:

Soto is a "all in on 2024" move. He's already turned down a historic extension that would have made him the highest paid player in baseball and with how the market's trended for top level FA's since there's no reason at all to suspect that has changed, if anything his decision to reach FA no matter what has probably calcified that much more. So you're gutting the top end of your farm and probably giving up a decent major league guy on top for 162 games of Soto + (hopefully) a postseason run. All of which is to say, there's really no point in trading for him unless your team is pretty much already complete and just wants that extra boost to really put them over the edge, or is otherwise planning to complete the team in other ways complimentary to Soto in FA.

The team that makes the most sense for Soto is still the Padres. If Soto leaves, it'll be Tatis and a bunch of guys getting old.

live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010
The Padres could solve their problems by trading prospects for pitching. The offense is set, and they have Musgrove and Darvish who they hope bounce back, they just need pitching depth.

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live with fruit
Aug 15, 2010

FlamingLiberal posted:

What, none of them are leaving to go work for a Trump Super PAC?

Aren't they leaving a Trump Super PAC?

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