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Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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DreddyMatt posted:

UK is such a backwards country. 50k isn't even that much money. In comparison to the average cost of houses and cars and cost of living, you're comfortable, but certainly not rich.

This is something that's widely out of sync with popular perceptions in Britain, with the cost of things I have less at the end of the month as a relative high-earner (somewhere around the, uhh, high 80s in that percentile chart) than I did in eastern europe, albeit in one of the richer bits of it.

There's still a lot to like about living in Britain but making fat stacks of money ain't it if you're coming from most parts of the EU.

e: And I mean less at the end of the month in absolute terms, not adjusted for cost of living.

As for reasons why I moved to Britain, it was actually years before I worked in eastern europe, I went back for a bit but didn't really feel like I fit in that well. Also Britain is much less sexist and racist and for all the stereotypes people are generally much more pleasant. Some things tend to be done more properly too, although that definitely does not extend to housing.

e2: I actually ended up saving money for an emergency fund while working in eastern europe, in order to live more comfortably in the UK, which is pretty funny all things considered. Probably helps explain why the EU immigration graph looks the way it does.

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Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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Live alone in a rented 1 bed flat and having takeouts just about does it, yeah.

Well actually 36k is a bit low for that.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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That's honestly been a popular solution for a while, also similar for non-EU with other more permissive EU countries back when that was an option.

Quite seriously it might be the only option. It's not all that bad IMO, you can always move to the UK once you have the citizenship.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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FiftySeven posted:

How many workers in the UK actually earn that sort of money? Do they understand or care that their policies are going to literally rip families apart? No. Of course they dont care. Cunts.

Seems to be set for the top 30% of earners, so uh, not that many.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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I'm just renewing my Czech passport while visiting family over Christmas and while it's not as nice as that you can still get it done within 5 days or 24 hours for a small surcharge (normally it's free but takes up to 30 days).

You do have to do it in person since they take new biometrics, but it's still a world of difference from the UK system, which appears to be "pay a chunk of money and fill out a bunch of forms and then wait a few months".

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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DaWolfey posted:

I'm in a similar boat but further along - my wife got the Fiancé visa and then the family visa about 3 months ago, which means she can stay for 2.5ish years until you have to do family visa 2: the revisaning.

I only just scraped the financial requirements on earnings for those, so 38k is absolutely out of the question. If they don't grandfather her in, or they don't count our combined income (which as of today we'd just squeak through on assuming nothing changed), it'll be impossible for her to stay here.

I don't know how true this is, but I did see on twitter that someone said that when the threshold was increased last time (in 2012), those that were already on the path were not required to meet the new threshold, however, that was also before they introduced the finance -> family -> family 2 process, so I don't know for sure.

When introduced in 2012, minimum wage was £6.19, so on a 37.5 hour work week that'd be £12,070.50. The threshold was £18,600, and to get that you'd need to be on £9.54 or a difference of £3.35 per hour or 59% more than min wage.

The new threshold is expected to come into force in spring, so presumably at the same time as the new min wage which will be £11.44, or £22,308 per year. The new threshold of £38,700 means £19.84 per hour, a difference of £8.40 per hour or 73.4% more than min wage. Or put another way the difference between min wage and the threshold has increased by 150.75%

The crucial bit you're missing is that min wage in relation to median wage has increased significantly since then - in 2012 median income was 21000, so significantly above the limit, while right now median income is ~28000 (according to the government percentile chart anyway, allowing for 10% wage growth over last 2 years) which is very much below the 38k limit.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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The framing BBC is using for the new immigration threshold is pretty funny, they say it's only slightly above the median wage for full-time employees (34k, which is still >10% lower).

Of course the operative word there being full-time, given how many people on lower incomes are on zero hour contracts or have some other kind of periodic/part-time/seasonal or otherwise insecure work.

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Owned for the crime of living in the UK.

Although honestly the new settled status, as long as you could get it, is significantly more secure than freedom of movement, since it's basically ILR with longer allowed absence from the UK. Whereas with freedom of movement you could be deported for all sorts of things - this usually wasn't a major issue since you wouldn't be banned from re-entering, but UK often paired it with a lengthy immigration detention.

E.g. this Polish guy who killed himself for being imprisoned detained in a detention centre for a while for failing to find work and killed himself the day his british partner gave birth:

Polish man, whose partner gave birth the day he died, is believed to have killed himself at Morton Hall removal facility, the third such death in a matter of weeks

Graun posted:

According to other detainees, the man who died this week is thought to have killed himself after being refused bail just before Christmas. His partner, whose pregnancy was too advanced to attend the bail hearing, gave birth to the couple’s son on the same day he died.

The detainees said the man who died was “young and quiet, never causing any trouble. He spent his time watching TV, playing games and at the gym.” They added that the mood at the centre was very low after his death.

Detainees said the man had not committed any crime in the UK and that he had sought medical help for mental health problems.

Compared to that settled status/ILR lets you stay in the UK unless you commit a serious felony, with ties to the UK (particularly family in the UK) taken into account and increasing the length in prison required for deportation.

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feedmegin posted:

How's that defined out of curiosity? (We haven't had the felony/misdemeanour distinction in this country as such since the 1960s, this isn't America)

I'm having trouble finding it now since it's relatively rare, but it's what Soricidus said, with the length in prison required depending on what ties you have to the UK- it goes up to some quite significant number of years if you have a lot of ties to the UK, I think 7 or something like that.

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Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Pigfkr can fk off. Hamsa Yousaf has actual relatives in Gaza. If any other minister had relations in any other country being obliterated by a heavily armed, violent, aggressive attacker, they would be applauded for talking about it.

At least he's been slightly less awful than his predecessor on Palestine, with the UK abstaining on votes in the UN and the like. I think it's more that he isn't a fan of Erdogan.

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Mar 30, 2011

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Tesseraction posted:

Oh good he didn't di-- :staredog:

Honestly it's not long ago I posted an article "third suicide in a detention centre in few weeks" from late 2010s.

The only reason anyone cares is because of the stupid barge being involved.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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I got my mum a VR headset for Christmas so that we can play table tennis together and she's a very nice person and I'm very glad she's around.

But I can see how that would be very different with abusive parents.

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The best bit about it is the whole "my dad had a tool factory was a toolmaker so I come from a working-class family".

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Is it just me or does that look a bit like a closed toilet.

Not sure if apt or intended.

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Mar 30, 2011

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In Cambridge the high street is still full of various shops and quirky places.

But then again the city's full of tech workers & stupidly expensive and most of the city centre is owned by the university.

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Mar 30, 2011

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Trainee PornStar posted:

Oxford is exactly the same.

I lived around it all my life & have come to hate the loving place.

Having lived in both I actually feel Oxford is more barren - not terrible by any means, but still. The Templar Square, Cowley, etc. high streets are full-on urban decay and the city centre is full of chain stores with a few tourist traps.

e: I said it was closer to Bristol but Bristol has lots of neat places.

Either way they are both a lot better than most places.

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

Who the gently caress has a tazer?

fuctifino posted:

Coke dealers?

It's this.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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I mean I play games a decent amount and would have absolutely no idea about those, that's way past trivia into esoteric knowledge which only a few tens of thousand people actually know.

The ones they had seem just right.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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Jakabite posted:

Me too and I’m hosting an NYE party. Good thing I got some Bucky for Christmas.

I've got noro from visiting relatives over Christmas, even better.

The idea of even seeing a bottle of alcohol is almost enough to send me to another bout of vomiting and diarrhea (possibly both at once).

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Mar 30, 2011

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Jakabite posted:

That can’t be real can it?

Yeah I was going to say, seems a bit fake. Maybe I'm just jaded.

I'd expect to be far more annoyed as the guy talking through the doorbell.

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Mar 30, 2011

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That said I had a neighbour once who was utterly insane about the bins, to the point of dumping his rubbish on the ground next to ours because he didn't like that we kept them on a side street (taking them in would involve carrying the whole bin 2 flights of stairs down a rickety 1-person stairway).

Even the binmen said it was okay when I asked. He also wrote passive aggressive letters about it he shoved under our door, hassled visitors and called the council (who said it was okay) and our landlord (by asking some tradesmen for his number when they came to fix the heating).

So perhaps I'm underestimating the entitled insanity potential of rando neighbours.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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Reading about the Houthis led me down this rabbit hole on Wikipedia:

Wikipedia posted:

As of 2022, 23% of enlistees to the British armed forces were aged under 18. Most child recruits were enlisted for the army, where 30% of the intake in the year 2021-2022 was aged under 18; more new soldiers were 16 than any other age.

In negotiations on the OPAC during the 1990s the UK joined the US in opposing a global minimum enlistment age of 18. Children's rights bodies have criticised the UK's continuing reliance on children to staff its armed forces.

Like, can we actually not? Having child soldiers is not cool & good.

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Mar 30, 2011

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Fumble posted:

Vaginas have teeth, i saw a film about it once.

This is completely OTT but I never get why it's supposed to be a disturbing idea for men? I mean oral sex is a thing and nobody seems to mind.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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Yeah, honestly, Keir is worse than Blair from left policy perspective. But maybe some people in the Labour cabinet will at least not be completely poo poo.

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Mar 30, 2011

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I'll probs vote Green, I did last time in locals already.

They aren't great either but at least it sends some left signal.

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That's the rub of redistricting, if you get swept you're absolutely screwed.

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smellmycheese posted:

Ha ha ha. This is actually genius. It’s so incredibly pathetic and small minded that it may just work on the Duppers



Article : https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/01/19/uk-dup-irish-sea-border-rebrand-northern-ireland-brexit/

Mah blue fookin' passport! Up your Dolors!

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Scientastic posted:

I recently saw someone shoplifting in our local Sainsbury’s and I turned a blind eye to it because I’m not a piece of poo poo, but when the chap was confronted by the security guard he launched into a tirade of vile racist abuse. I guess racists are also allowed to steal bread to feed their starving family, but it made me feel conflicted.

That sure is a way to make sure they're extra motivated to not let you get away.

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*looks at opinion polls*

Yeah Laura K, I wonder why he thinks the Tories are dead in the water.

And just in case anyone thinks he was talking about Scotland, he wasn't:

BBC posted:

So what is exactly is the First Minister of Scotland, Humza Yousaf, up to when he proclaims so confidently that Starmer will reach Downing Street - and that the Labour leader "doesn't need Scotland" in order to do it?

The great polling guru Sir John Curtice tells me that, as thing stands, Yousaf is technically right.

I don't care if it's clickbait, it baited me.

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I've actually had my tesco order cancelled like that in October last year or thereabouts, took about a month to get the money back and was fairly inconvenient. Either way I don't think this is that unusual for them.

They have a very good delivery service though, good prices including store offers and aldi price match, can pick slots for a specific hour and they rarely substitute anything.

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Wolfsbane posted:

This is how Ocado works. It doesn't seem to cause any problems, but maybe they have magic technology that just isn't available to Tesco.

Tesco also kindof does that, they only charge you a few hours before delivery. Does not help if it is cancelled though.

Also the way their pricing is set up (£50 minimum order + a fixed fee of £3 - £12 depending on availability, but otherwise they don't hike up prices and even have store offers and aldi price match) heavily incentivises large orders, which potentially makes this worse for people than it otherwise would be.

serious gaylord posted:

Huh, I didnt think any of the supermarkets still did payment on delivery anymore. Most of them stopped charging cards on the day goods were picked/despatched out years ago.

Tesco does exactly that, in fact only charges on the day of delivery.


I quite like the delivery service to be honest, it's a good deal and they have a great selection and the delivery people are always very helpful. I actually had a delivery on Saturday evening for ~£80, so just avoided it in the nick of time. I'd be fine either way, but still.

Also I got a £10 coupon last time this (cancelled order + late refund) happened, so there is that.

e: lmao just realised I still haven't used the coupon, whoops

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NotJustANumber99 posted:

Lol, so if this:

And this:

Are both the case... Then everyone's already been refunded?

I don't know about that, when it happened to me last time (posted the voucher earlier) it took a few weeks. Was about £120 too.

Probably will be quicker this time with how big of a news it is.

e: They did say I'd get it back in 3-5 days last time, but I remember it taking a fair bit longer. May be a bank issue or something.

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big scary monsters posted:

I thought I owned the normal number of swords, none, but based on responses here I'm starting to think maybe I'm the weird one.

not empty-quoting

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Deep learning and adversarial neural networks (which is 90% of what AI means nowadays) are really cool from a compsci perspective. The main reason for why it's exciting is precisely that it's not a traditional algorithmic approach, at least in the sense of applied algorithms in compsci - instead it's closer to stochastic methods in a similar vein to say Monte Carlo simulations from 1940s.

The point is that you, as a programmer, don't know the exact steps to come up with a solution, but instead run some sort of analysis of data to generate the solution (or to generate a program for finding the solution) for you. In comparison traditional algorithms are more along the lines of a mathematical proof, where you have precise steps to e.g. sort a bucket of data or find the shortest path and you can reason about their efficiency.

Now deep learning is one of many such approaches that have been found over time, but it stands out for three reasons, at least to me:
  • First it's quite good at solving general problems, whereas previous ML techniques had to be tuned for a specific task - typical example being an aircraft autopilot tuned for a specific plane. An interesting aside of this is that these older approaches tend to be less error prone.

  • Second is that it's actually really good at solving certain classes of problems, in a way that most comp sci advances frankly haven't been, or took a very long time to get there. The first major application was to do with image recognition, where a relatively simple solution beat several well-funded research teams who were using other techniques (which happened well over a decade ago).

  • The last big reason it's exciting to me is that neural networks have always been on the more theoretical end of comp sci and then suddenly became very successful in a way that most people didn't expect. It was even seen as a bit fanciful that neural network techniques would be particularly good just because they vaguely follow what brains are doing. That makes the - by the standards of computer science - massive successes in the last couple years quite exciting.

None of that is really related to how it changes society or clashes with IP rights. And from a personal perspective I find image generation in particular really fun to use due to having a learning disorder related to art and writing. I also quite enjoy playing with GPTs because it lets you talk to a computer in a way that has never really been possible before (ELIZA and it's ilk is utter rubbish in comparison, which is why it was largely seen as a dead end).

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If my previous post seemed to be AI generated I swear it hasn't been, it's just that AI tends to follow the general structure of writing on technical(-ish) topics, possibly a training bias.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 28, 2024

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

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I had a bunch of Chinese friends at uni and having a hotpot was always great.

Now they all went back to China and I don't get to have it anymore.

Therefore in the full spirit of FYGM I support banning of all hotpot places in London.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jan 28, 2024

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

You make it a legal requirement for anything fed into an AI to have permission and attribution, that's literally all we need right at this exact moment. Anyone feeding their own work in is covered, people can easily contribute their own work to a specific AI, and the general use models that scraped the entire internet then started poisoning everything with garbage immediately die.

This would mean that the only people who get to use, license and sell good AI are massive IP rights holders (like they are already doing with Adobe and Getty, maybe large book publishers could get in on it too).

That is a literal nightmare scenario for anyone who is not one of those giant corporations and a huge win for predatory capitalism.

e: There's also a significant risk that such legislation would make currently legal non-ai forms of media use in production illegal for anyone who is not, again, one of the giant rights holders.

It would work great in a world of perfectly spherical artists where every human has exclusive non-transferrable rights to anything he contributes to. Sadly, that is very much emphatically not the world we live in, or anywhere close to it.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jan 29, 2024

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Mar 30, 2011

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Like no, you can't stop everyone on earth using AI, but the main issue that needs tackling is how the complete obfuscation of existing models is being used to rob people of their jobs with their own labour.

The companies most likely to do that are the large IP holders, they would also likely sell access to such models to other companies or individuals if they had a legal monopoly. The content creators will not get anything out of that.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

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IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


sinky posted:

What are they getting out of it now :confused:

Nothing really, beyond the ability to use it themselves, but it's not like limiting access would be an improvement.

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Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


They'd stop being abstentionist for long enough to declare independence/reunification and then gently caress off, presumably.

Maybe try to pass some laws to make the independence/reunification work better, too.


On second thought this was a dumb post about a dumb premise, I don't think there'd be any appetite for it, at least within SF, since you still have all the unionists living in NI one way or another. I don't think Westminster is the biggest barrier to reunification.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Feb 1, 2024

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