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Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
The thing where white trash idiots blow their racism factory pay on gigantic lovely lifted trucks they never use as actual trucks has been a thing since I was little. Dunno how anyone missed it.

I own a now 21 year-old truck I'm going to drive until it literally falls apart.

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Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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The debate was really whatever tbh but it's funny watching the media call it a shitshow in those words specifically

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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The decorum stuff is really fun because it's the first excuse brought up as to why nothing good ever gets done. If the filibuster goes away the microsecond it gets in the way of the GOP doing something- did it ever really exist?

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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lmao at the idea of any admin being properly prosecuted because every admin we've had in the last century should've been

If Trump is afraid of that he's even dumber than everyone thinks he is

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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It's kind of amazing how after successfully rolling the dice any million numbers of times on individual exposure events before this the entire White House and everyone around it gets COVID after just one failure.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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it'd be funny if he just died on election day like someone shattered his phylactery

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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I like the idea of a panicked Trump just asking to be injected with everything they got and the doctors just standing there knowing they can't tell the President that it's a bad idea.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Trump's actual major voting contingent is basically skidoo dealership owners

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Sagebrush posted:

they're gonna have to burn down the white house at the end of this to sterilize it
We can call in the Canadians since they're experienced in that

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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I love being ruled by a cabal of 80 year-olds who have to suck the spinal fluid out of babies like a Capri Sun to not just turn to dust

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Reminder that the president had a porn star roll up a magazine with him on the cover and spank him with it

evangelicals are fine with that
evangelicals don't give a poo poo because they understand what they need is someone in power who'll do the things they want

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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dudes rock

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Imagine thinking that a bunch of democrats (including Joe Biden himself) wouldn't like a war with Iran

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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I don't feel it's helpful to explain why but I don't really blame anyone for not voting.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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I get tired of hearing about the electoral college because dealing with that is like 20 imaginary steps ahead.

You know what you have to do in order to eliminate the electoral college? you have to loving win elections!!

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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power botton posted:

they dont just benefit from it its the only reason they exist anywhere outside of the senate.

a 6-3 Supreme Court will lay the legal ground work for the next century of increasingly blatant stolen elections until the waters rise and swallow us all. all while keeping us distracted with abortion rights. lol.
The funniest part of that is if the Dems do in fact wash the Republicans in this election it's trivial for them to pack the courts and eliminate the problem.

Packing the courts is very realistically in their grasp but they won't do it because of some bullshit respect for norms, and the democratic party's crippling fear of being responsible for anything

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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infernal machines posted:

i saw someone posting about this elsewhere and i assumed it was just a conspiracy theory, because that's absolutely insane. like, scorched earth end of american democracy variety nuts
In the end they probably won't do it because the GOP already is trying to unhitch their star from Trump, and it becomes pretty awkward if Trump loses by a margin large enough that Biden STILL wins the EC without Pennsylvania- which is looking more and more likely.

ShadowHawk posted:

My "transformative experience" was back in 2004. Everyone was concerned about bad voting machines and Diebold and stuff. The amount of effective disenfranchisement happening via gerrymandering and other tricks was worse than straight up rigging ~20% of the vote.
I worked for my county's clerks office through college and worked elections for about 10 years and my conclusion looking at the voting machines was that anyone who thinks you can just programmatically "hack the vote" by flipping some bits is an idiot when doing that and getting away with it is a billion times harder than just making sure the people you don't want to vote don't even make it to the machines in the first place.

Fabricated fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Oct 12, 2020

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Trump, for everything he has done- has revealed the cheat code to America's governmental process, which is to quite literally ignore everything and do whatever you want and say that you're doing it outloud instead of hiding it. The concealment of activities is more scandalizing to the American public than whatever it is you actually do.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Blinkz0rz posted:

this thread sucks because no one iit is wrong about the problems but the only way to actually solve any of them is through long protracted struggle which is entirely at odds with the way american society is structured
The real fun if you are cursed enough to care about politics is yet come if Biden just wins by a huge margin that bypasses all of the potential bullshit.

If he wins in a walk and Trump doesn't just barricade himself in the White House (which he won't do I don't think because he's a massive loving wimp- I think he's just setting himself up so he can claim he isn't a loser) and we end up with President Biden- the thing that's gonna be fun to see is every #resist lib and most normally disengaged Americans just hitting the snooze button on politics and disengaging again. Libs care about Trump because he has forced politics into their lives to the point they quite literally cannot disengage- their desire isn't for some nominally progressive society. Their desire is to not have to care about politics, and Biden is a perfect vehicle for that. Generic racist old white dude who'll politely, quietly extinguish the rest of our welfare state instead of bulldozing it into the ground fast enough to make the poors riot while being so stupid he's an ever-present worry in the back of your mind.

Fabricated fucked around with this message at 15:11 on Oct 12, 2020

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

What he wants doesn't matter, he's a distraction while the GOP gets what they want and in the end if they want one party rule he'll go along with it.

He isn't in control, McConnell is.

The GOP is a top down party. Strategy and messaging are discussed on conference calls every day, everyone falls in line, and the talking points are disseminated to the voting base via Hannity and Fox News. Listen to what the rank-and-file chuds say, because it's going to be verbatim from Hannity and Carlson the night before.

The chuds have been saying "we can never allow another Democrat president because he would undo the good Trump has done" for a few years now. They aren't coming up with that on their own, it's a direct statement of intention from the Republican Party.

The law only matters if people in power enforce it, and the Republicans hold all those levers.
I know everything is hosed up but if Biden pretty overwhelmingly wins I don't think the GOP is just gonna say "no" and reinstall Trump

They will go "oh well", jettison Trump, and count on the judiciary to maintain their legal gains until they can just run a Cotton/Hawley ticket and win in 2024 on the platform of "Medicare For White People only"

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

I think that the rhetoric has changed pretty drastically since Obama was elected and the GOP has absolutely gone 100% into the idea of single party rule while using racism as a method to justify it to their voting base.

The consensus among Republicans and their voters is that any will to power other than their own is illegitimate because black man / socialism / atheism / whatever. The rank and file don't come up with that on their own, they're told to feel that way.

Prior to Obama there was the sense that the two parties wanted what was best for America and just had different ideas about how to arrive at that point. That's completely vanished over the past decade and been replaced by the leader of the GOP treating anyone that didn't vote for him as an enemy combatant and blue states as occupied territory.

They've pretty openly declared what they think America is, and it isn't us.
The chud dead-ender people are like 30% of America and they're concentrated in a lot of specific areas. They're gonna be a problem forever now but I don't think they're enough on their own.

I think the problem is far more insidious than the GOP doing the night of the long knives- the people that Democrats are making big gains with right now to Trump's detriment are old people and mostly middle-aged white women who're squishy conservatives. The wine mom demo finally is shifting to the Democrats... but if it happens (and it might not when they're in the voting booth!), it's probably only for this election. The problem is that the Democrats are extremely stupid and would see a win like this as "Ah, we're the wine mom party now"- and the overton window will shift back to the right because they don't trust minorities to vote when that delicious middle-class white woman base is right there and seemlingly amenable to milquetoast liberal bullshit.

...then they'll all just vote Republican in 2022/24 because it was more about Trump offending their sensibilities rather than any sort of support for progressive policy. Which will be even funnier because Biden will be completely uninterested in instituting any progressive policy and is exactly what these people want in a president.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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It's pretty cool watching president of the united states come out as bi while being blasted on steroids

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Basically the last bit of the Crossroads music video but trump

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Apr 9, 2007

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infernal machines posted:

i'm sure there are no long term effects or counter indications for long term steroid use when you're a seventy four year old who hasn't walked further than the length of a hallway in the last fifty years.
They agree to have the final debate and Trump walks on stage looking like the Chad drawing and rips Biden in half like a phone book

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNFjLzVKVdk

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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love to go on my highly rated TV show watched by millions and say "well ahh duhhhh sorry guys dog ate my homework"

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Jonny 290 posted:

hunter biden is literally the platonic ideal of a failson, i love him

* pro legalizing it
* world traveler
* business acumen
* pays the sex workers
* notable hog

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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qirex posted:

I'm going to guess trump has some immunity deal lined up with the dems if he loses otherwise I think he'd be way more unhinged than normal

he probably also has some sort of 9 figure tv deal lined up with fox or oan
I like to imagine some old school GOP apparatchik actually sat him down and explained that no one ever ever ever really prosecutes the administration before theirs because they won't want THEIR admin prosecuted when it ends.

If Bush and Co. get to pretty much walk, anyone does.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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didn't that one lady on the bike who flipped Trump off years ago get endlessly harassed

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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graph posted:

reminder that levins voice is indistinguishable from master shake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYz0RaZSMsA

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Is Tori alright- did the chud army get him

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Apr 9, 2007

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Stringent posted:

it's going to be interesting to see how much traction the "blame the leftists for how bad the election went" camp gets. i think there's a very high probability in a Biden administration of a revanchism against the left the likes of which haven't been seen since McCarthyism.
It's getting public pushback from people like AOC, but they'll get the squad in line pretty quick I imagine by just threatening to redistrict them.

The thing that's going to be infuriating is watching a bunch if lovely limousine libs and tech-libs making a decent six figgies take a poo poo on anyone left of center when Biden doesn't deliver any sort of relief for the multitude of incredibly serious problems facing us. They'll blame the senate if they don't win the runoffs and can't flip it, or they'll just shrug until 2022 when they'll massively eat poo poo and get plausible deniability for not being able to fix anything. Prop 22 is basically the future for the rest of the country since Uber and co figured out they can just spend a shitzillion dollars and pass legislation that'll basically take us back to robber baron poo poo.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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I used to really like arena shooters and stuff like CS1.6, and in the last few years I realized I don't really play them anymore- then I realized I don't play them anymore because I'm in my late 30's and my reflexes are shot and my hands are getting arthritic

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Deck 16 and Hyperblast imo

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Apr 9, 2007

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Jonny 290 posted:

thats the fuckin' problem, its the clearly superior option
The two types of people who get into politics are the willing and the able, and the job selects for the willing

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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The thing about the Trump people is that they've always been there to a degree but never had a real organizing force. I think Bush Jr. might've had a real shot at it after 9/11 but it didn't really happen.

I took this picture in 2014, and this is just some dude who's probably flying a Trump flag now.



Granted maybe my area is more left-leaning than others but I actually don't see a lot of these kinds of cranks here- which is part of the reason I thought it was funny enough to take a picture.

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Apr 9, 2007

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mediaphage posted:

I saw the picture before I read the text and thought it was some new high tech bathroom
It will become one the first time they try to deploy it at a protest

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Apr 9, 2007

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Jonny 290 posted:

i've honestly thought more than once about japanese rednecks. Like, there have to be some fuckers over there living in leaky lovely shacks on 3 acres absolutely full of rusted out cars, and they ride dirt bikes over a berm for fun and drink too much.

i want to hang out with japanese hillbillies. i hear that, like us, they have a weird nationalist/monarchist bent though.
Japan's thing is a bit more depressing in that basically if they still basically make naturalization as hard as possible, there won't be any redneck equivalents because there simply won't be anyone living in rural areas in Japan.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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infernal machines posted:

so what happens when he still doesn't concede?
Conceding isn't actually part of the process, it's just part of the :decorum:. What'll happen is that his term will end on the 20th and if he's stupid enough to still be in the WH he will be escorted out by whatever LEO or Military Branch that wins rock-paper-scissors to do it.

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Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

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Was nice for Obama's latest memoir to really let us know what a loving rear end in a top hat he was

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