agarjogger posted:

Get help or get booze.

Luigi Thirty posted:

The reason why the White House desk has a solid front instead of a cutout is that it was modified to hide his wheelchair from visitors.

Unzip and Attack posted:

I bench 325 and shoulder lifts like that with anything higher than 10/15 pounds are very difficult for me. Obama could be filmed preacher curling 100lb barbells and people would still find a way to bitch.

lil mortimer posted:

The Internet conservative messaging is now that Democrats love smearing veterans because they're discrediting the stories that are coming out. Shame on them! This is spreading everywhere

Radish posted:

I wish I had the image of the tweet from the guy saying that people calling the Swift Boaters were full of poo poo were anti veteran.

quote:

Prior to his work in government, politics, and the media, Friedman served as an infantry officer in the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kuwait, and Iraq. In March 2002, he led a rifle platoon into Afghanistan's Shah-e-Kot Valley in order to engage Taliban and al Qaeda fighters as part of Operation Anaconda—a battle later written about by journalist Sean Naylor in Not a Good Day to Die. A year later, Friedman commanded a heavy weapons platoon during the invasion of Iraq. He led troops during combat and counterinsurgency operations in Hillah, Baghdad, and Tal Afar. Friedman left active duty in 2004 after having spent the latter portion of his Iraq tour as an executive officer managing troop movements, security issues, and logistics throughout northern Iraq as the insurgency intensified. He was awarded two Bronze Stars for his service in Afghanistan and Iraq.[3]

lil mortimer posted:

But I guess there's "good" soldiers and "bad" soldiers.

Paul MaudDib posted:

So which demographic cross-tabs is it OK to make connections with voting trends over?

Like, Mormons are generally agreed to have been a major force in passing Prop 8, is it OK to point that fact out? Is it similarly OK to point out that relatively conservative Baptist churches also played a role in getting Prop 8 passed? They were literally coordinating with those same out-of-state backers, and the ground game is just as, if not more important than, pouring advertising money into a state.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603880.html

Is it relative intensity of support that matters, or what? Because "african american" is one of the particular demographics that voted most strongly in favor of Prop 8 (70%). The only demographic with higher support was "weekly churchgoers" (84%) and "black women" (75%), generic "protestant" and "christian" categories are at 65%, everyone else is down near the 50% mark. Interestingly enough, black men are below the norm for both black people and religious people generally, at 62.5%.

It's never fair to dump an election result squarely in the lap of one demographic on the cross-tab, since everyone's vote counts. But when you break it down there's clearly higher levels of homophobia or crab mentality ("they were never considered a third of a person!") or whatever in the black community circa 2008 given the huge intensity gap versus every other demographic. This is a forum that loves electoral hypotheticals, like "what if a few less liberals had voted third-party in 2000", and it's probably fair to say that black votes (good turnout and their strong split in favor of prop 8) was a deciding factor in pushing Prop 8 over the top.

If I really had to pick one demographic that was responsible for Prop 8 passing, it'd be "religious" or "christian" for sure just based on size. But that doesn't change the fact that black people displayed significantly more support for Prop 8 than even generic "christian". That really sucks from a group that is still fighting its own civil rights struggle and is still within living memory of Jim Crow.

based gaddis posted:

Uh, not a good day to be Annette Bosworth (the SD senate candidate who posed in front of the fake graffiti) -- she turned herself in on 12 felony forgery and perjury charges after finding out live on the air from Megan Kelly she lost.

Fried Chicken posted:

I have a title. I need the stuff I mentioned

Amergin posted:

USPol: FYGMents of GOP Imagination

mlmp08 posted:

He didn't say a word until Bergdahl was safely in US hands again. The supposed reason for the initial gag order was to protect the prisoner from mistreatment or murder by his captors.

Amergin posted:

USPol: FYGMents of GOP Imagination

Redeye Flight posted:

Speaking according to logic and the facts about the surrounding circumstances, absolutely nothing. But Obama Can't Win, Ever, so yeah.

I'm just mad that it's affecting Bergdahl himself. Obama I'm pretty sure can take it, he understands the stakes. Bergdahl just got imprisoned and maybe tortured for five years and he's coming back to this horrifying lovely political shell game, which is going out of its way to brand him as a traitor and scum of the earth because he was involved in A Thing Obama Did. The way the right has been treating him loving disgusts me.

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Evil Fluffy posted:

Clearly we should've brought him home by sending Rambo in, duh.

Fried Chicken posted:

New OP is almost done but I need to get to bed. If someone can find the post I made (I thought it was here but I'm not seeing it) detailing what is going on with reproductive rights where I talked contraception and South Dakota's abortion desert I want to crib that. Also we need a drink

Amergin posted:

USPol: FYGMents of GOP Imagination

eNeMeE posted:

So he wasn't withholding it out of respect he was withholding it because of a gag order.

SedanChair posted:

based gaddis posted:

Uh, not a good day to be Annette Bosworth (the SD senate candidate who posed in front of the fake graffiti) -- she turned herself in on 12 felony forgery and perjury charges after finding out live on the air from Megan Kelly she lost.

quote:

Homosexuality must not be presented as an acceptable alternative lifestyle, in public policy, nor should family be redefined to include homosexual couples. We believe there should be no granting of special legal entitlements or creation of special status for homosexual behavior, regardless of state of origin.

Additionally, we oppose any criminal or civil penalties against those who oppose homosexuality out of faith, conviction, or belief in traditional values. We recognize the legitimacy and value of counseling which offers reparative therapy and treatment to patients who are seeking escape from the homosexual lifestyle. No laws or executive orders shall be imposed to limit or restrict access to this type of therapy.

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Bizarro Kanyon posted:

Texas Republicans drafted a new platform advocating ex-gay therapy.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2014/06/05/3445234/texas-republican-platform-ex-gay/


Let's see what happens when people go to "gay therapy"

http://www.hrc.org/resources/entry/the-lies-and-dangers-of-reparative-therapy

Amergin posted:

Is sodomy defined in Texas as "pee-pee anywhere 'xcept hoo-haw" like it is in SC (or GA, can't remember)?

Because then you get into all sorts of fun with oral sex and sodomy overlap.

"We wanted to make gay sex illegal! Not blowjobs!... Wait I mean not non-gay blowjobs!"

Good Citizen posted:

I have a well developed ability to shrug off horrible GOP nonsense but this makes me legitimately angry. That gay aversion therapy poo poo absolutely without a doubt destroys lives and should be classified as torture. gently caress them and gently caress this.