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Smoothrich, I REALLY like Ben Carson on a personal level but he, to this point at least, is not running a serious campaign or making serious proposals. A 10% flat tax based on the principle of tithing is not a serious proposal. Nor is it something that congress would even vote on much less pass into law in a million years. Getting rid of Medicare entirely and replacing it with HSAs is not a serious proposal. Nor is it something that congress would even vote on much less pass into law in a million years. Shutting down your presidential campaign to go on book tour is not a move serious campaigns make.
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Carson pulling ahead right before the next debate is hopefully going to make for a particularly delicious debate.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:12
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The Nastier Nate posted:In 2007 Hillary was the defacto nominee for months and months, until Obama started catching on, democrats saw him as viable and endorsements started snowballing. Then he won the primary and general in a landslide, Uh, Obama trailed Hillary in endorsements for nearly the entire length of the primaries. Boosted_C5 posted:Shutting down your presidential campaign to go on book tour is not a move serious campaigns make. He didn't actually do that. He had to keep expenditures separate because campaign funds and unrelated promotional tours can't be mixed, but he never shuttered the campaign.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:17
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Trump vs Carson Boosted_c5 vs smoothrich Whoever wins, we lose. gradenko_2000 fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 15:20
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It sounds like you made a lot of progress while in jail and maybe you should spend some more time there.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:22
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Fuschia tude posted:He didn't actually do that. He had to keep expenditures separate because campaign funds and unrelated promotional tours can't be mixed, but he never shuttered the campaign. But he wasn't "campaigning". He wasn't sucking corn and guzzling maple syrup or whatever it is that serious candidates have to do, he was spending time in states that buy and read books, have large populations, and have little to no influence in the actual presidential election process; therefore, not a serious campaign.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:28
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See, even a literal Trump Avatar admits that he loves Ben Carson. He's just so likable on a personal level, which is what many people end up voting on in the booth. It makes him a Real Contender in this Primary. Medicare seems like it won't exist for Millennials at all either way and everyone just lies that its "doing fine" as the greedy baby boomers bankrupt our nation as their last gently caress You, Got Mine before dying out and leaving America in ruins.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:29
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Just in time for a Carson surge! Top Carson Aide Wants Taxpayers To Fund Farrakhan
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Oct 27, 2015 15:30
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Ignite Memories posted:It sounds like you made a lot of progress while in jail and maybe you should spend some more time there. As much as I dislike smoothrich, that's a low blow and exactly the kind of thing I hate about society's treatment of ex cons.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:30
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Taeke posted:As much as I dislike smoothrich, that's a low blow and exactly the kind of thing I hate about society's treatment of ex cons. You're right. This is why we have a civil commitment process.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:33
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If you get arrested for anything you end up in jail until you can pay bail, it's a massive scam on poor people, not just black people. I'm not some hardened criminal, they just gently caress you over to steal your money as a "poor tax" in Obama's America
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Oct 27, 2015 15:35
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Smoothrich posted:If you get arrested for anything you end up in jail until you can pay bail, it's a massive scam on poor people, not just black people. I'm not some hardened criminal, they just gently caress you over to steal your money as a "poor tax" in Obama's America Lol hate to break it to ya but this predates Obama big time
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Oct 27, 2015 15:37
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Actually, Boosted_C5 is a good poster
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Oct 27, 2015 15:39
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I think its kinda cool how obvious you can see the racist voter realignment after the civil rights act.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:42
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please stop engaging with smoothrich
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Oh, here's another one: Top Carson aide gave thousands to Democrats quote:Ben Carson likes to tell audiences that he used to be a Democrat, and that his views have changed dramatically over time. His communications director, however, is a more complicated story. Wonder who's leaking all this? When Trump does it it's pretty obvious as he posts it on twitter and it then ends up on Breitbart... this is someone else.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:43
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Epic High Five posted:Lol hate to break it to ya but this predates Obama big time The root of any American problem is whenever people discover it. Smoothrich realized racism and poverty existed in 2009 and correctly linked it to the election of that dastardly Obama.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:45
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gradenko_2000 posted:What the hell happened in 1984 Carter's Vice President won the Democratic nomination, and selected a woman as his running mate.
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Do It Once Right posted:I both love and hate my stupid silly country. I'm personally writing in Buddy The Elf EDIT: I really appreciate the strong effort Smoothrich and Boosted put into this thread. a helpful bear fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 15:48
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Yadoppsi posted:I think its kinda cool how obvious you can see the racist voter realignment after the civil rights act. Jimmy Carter won the Confederate states but he was incompetent so he was booted out of office for the GOP's principled leadership, it stopped being about racism long ago. Racism was just a Democrat invention to justify owning human slaves for wealth.
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Oct 27, 2015 15:56
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Smoothrich posted:Jimmy Carter won the Confederate states but he was incompetent so he was booted out of office for the GOP's principled leadership, it stopped being about racism long ago. Racism was just a Democrat invention to justify owning human slaves for wealth. That's why one of Reagan's early campaign stops in 1980 was to Philadelphia, MS, to give a speech on states' rights. History!
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Oct 27, 2015 15:59
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Pohl posted:That's an interesting bug... Obama's like my yo-yo that glowed in the dark
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Oct 27, 2015 16:01
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Smoothrich posted:Jimmy Carter won the Confederate states but he was incompetent so he was booted out of office for the GOP's principled leadership, it stopped being about racism long ago. Racism was just a Democrat invention to justify owning human slaves for wealth. Which election did it stop being about racism?
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Oct 27, 2015 16:02
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Smoothrich posted:Jimmy Carter won the Confederate states but he was incompetent so he was booted out of office for the GOP's principled leadership, it stopped being about racism long ago. Racism was just a Democrat invention to justify owning human slaves for wealth. As a Georgian, gently caress you.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:02
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Smoothrich posted:Jimmy Carter won the Confederate states but he was incompetent so he was booted out of office for the GOP's principled leadership, it stopped being about racism long ago. Racism was just a Democrat invention to justify owning human slaves for wealth. What an enchanted world you live in
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Oct 27, 2015 16:04
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Joementum posted:I'm willing to believe that Trump is playing by his own rules this cycle, and the surge->scrutiny->decline cycle we saw in 2012 doesn't apply to him, even though he still won't be the nominee. How do you see his decline working? What's the actual mechanism that'll propel Rubio or Bush or whoever into the lead once the powers that be finally decide to back them solidly? Genuine question.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:08
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a shameful boehner posted:please stop engaging with smoothrich please this
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Oct 27, 2015 16:09
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Jeb needs to marry Supergirl now. There's no way around it.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:12
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Carson better bring his A-Game to the next debate and only take one Ativan
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Peel posted:How do you see his decline working? What's the actual mechanism that'll propel Rubio or Bush or whoever into the lead once the powers that be finally decide to back them solidly? Genuine question. Trump's success seems largely built on a few traits 1) His enthusiasm for the process 2) His unusual ability to make openly negative messaging work with some people 3) His ability to control messaging and keep momentum His decline will come about when these three falter. His negative messaging has misfired a couple times, most notably against Fiorina in the 2nd debate. He walked it back, and in the process looked more like a scolded bully shrinking under the spotlight of pressure than a truth-telling no-shits-giving firebrand. He recovered because Fiorina was bad at this thing and like hell any of the other candidates were going to stick their necks out for her, so that misstep went away and he could regain his footing by leading the charge against other candidates. He's in a target rich environment, but as the field thins, he'll have fewer and fewer revelations to add, and his negative messaging machine will slow. His momentum will slow. He'll get visibly frustrated and bored with the whole enterprise as someone else (Rubio, say) slowly ascends in the polls after the establish coalesce around him. He'll have made his mark, built up his name and prominence, and he'll back out to go write another book and bask in the publicity of the guy who didn't lose, but instead chose to walk away from the corrupt establishment.
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Joementum posted:I'm willing to believe that Trump is playing by his own rules this cycle, and the surge->scrutiny->decline cycle we saw in 2012 doesn't apply to him, even though he still won't be the nominee. I'd say the next two up after Carson are Rubio and Cruz. The talk radio guys have already shifted their stance on Rubio(all but Levin that is.) Most of them are now lumping Rubio in with Trump/Carson/Cruz as "outsider conservatives." I can see Rubio winning this in the end the same way Ryan won speaker - He's a compromise that favors the establishment, but still a compromise.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:15
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The next debate is tonight / Tuesday night?
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Oct 27, 2015 16:16
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Smoothrich posted:Ben Carson doesn't speak with insults, he speaks with experience from rising through every socioeconomic level in America guided with both Christian values and Scientific methods as a morally infallible reformist. He's some kind of unstoppable force if he takes over the narrative. He generally doesn't speak at all.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:17
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gradenko_2000 posted:The next debate is tonight / Tuesday night? It's tomorrow/Wednesday, 8 PM eastern.
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I can't believe how excited I am about the Jeb campaign!
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Oct 27, 2015 16:22
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Vox Nihili posted:He generally doesn't speak at all. At best be mumbles/whimpers, but only when spoken to directly.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:23
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H5N1 posted:Jeb has rebooted his campaign. An intern asked him "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
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H5N1 posted:Jeb has rebooted his campaign. It is ever more joyful and my excitement about it is even more unbelievable! It's now Jeb!! instead of just Jeb! The extra ! connotes enthusiasm!
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Oct 27, 2015 16:24
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I don't see how Rubio positioning himself as an outsider conservative could last longer than one of his rivals for that position mentioning immigration.
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Montasque posted:Oh, here's another one: I wouldn't spend too much time attacking Carson if I were Trump. He'll come crashing down on his own. Trump should start getting ready to savage Rubio.
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