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Qmass
Jun 3, 2003

Gunbus posted:

Ha I was looking at one of those the other day. Turns out that's a factory option, Chevy will install the badges and grill for you.
As an Australian, I gotta admit this makes me smile.

on topic, watch mikko hirvonen explain how to balance a rear wheel drive rally car around a tarmac corner http://www.tuulilasi.fi/ralli/wrc-star-mikko-hirvonens-guide-rear-wheel-driving-how-handle-oversteer

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Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Preoptopus posted:

Did these guys paint it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAVG2wwlmis

Edit: Just reminded me of it.

Thank you for reminding me of this dude's work, it's absolutely stunning.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Slavvy posted:

Believe it or not, I've also driven an S14 with an RB25det swap and even the owner admitted it handled like poo compared to the original. Was on lovely adjustables though so you could probably dial it out with some time and money.
I was talking the BMW S14 engine, not the Nissan S14 car but whatever.


In 2.3L spec it's a great engine to drive, in 2.5L race spec it's a loving monster.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

T1g4h posted:

From Freiburger's Instagram:


Just one of the many highlights of SEMA 2015 :h:

One of those times where a little would have been too much, but too much is perfect.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin

NitroSpazzz posted:

I was talking the BMW S14 engine, not the Nissan S14 car but whatever.


In 2.3L spec it's a great engine to drive, in 2.5L race spec it's a loving monster.

I think he got that, seeing as how there's a picture of a BMW in the post, it was just a comment on swapping heavy rear end I6 engines into cars that came with 4 cylinders in general.

Das Volk
Nov 19, 2002

by Cyrano4747
:stonklol: jesus christ the cornering speeds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXP3Eij2GGA

Das Volk fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Nov 5, 2015

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
I am really impressed with the times that thing has been putting down. Especially if it's doing it on the stock treaded street tires (kuhmo v720).

For reference it's faster than a lot of purpose built time attack cars that have more tire, more power, and less weight. The best we ever did at big willow was 1:23.1 and for a long time that was the fastest anyone had gone without slicks. Viper cranked out a 1:21 with time left on the table,.

jamal fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Nov 5, 2015

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
That Viper is nothing but fist-pumping awesome.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Lesser cars have pictures of the Viper on their bedroom walls.

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



The lateral grip is unreal! A few stints of sustained 1.5+g and looks like briefly touching 2.0. That's wild!

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Pfft I get corner speeds like that all the time in Forza. These guys ain't nothing.

The fact that I suffer no injuries or penalties for wrecking in a video game has no bearing on this.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
If Toyota made cars. Yamaha is a solid company that Doesn't Make Junk (as far as I know) so if they actually put out this concept it would be bonkers.

Shrapnig
Jan 21, 2005

NitroSpazzz posted:

I was talking the BMW S14 engine, not the Nissan S14 car but whatever.


In 2.3L spec it's a great engine to drive, in 2.5L race spec it's a loving monster.

This is pornography.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

scuz posted:

If Toyota made cars. Yamaha is a solid company that Doesn't Make Junk (as far as I know) so if they actually put out this concept it would be bonkers.

Bike build quality is hilariously better than car build quality pretty much across the board (with a few notable exceptions) and Yamaha are near the top.

That concept gives me the impression that they don't realise how difficult it is to build a car that isn't poo poo whilst still jumping through all the legislative hoops and making the cost palatable to enough people that they buy the car. It's much 'cheaper' to build a high quality bike from a development standpoint than a high quality car.

CroatianAlzheimers
Jun 15, 2009

I can't remember why I'm mad at you...


scuz posted:

If Toyota made cars. Yamaha is a solid company that Doesn't Make Junk (as far as I know) so if they actually put out this concept it would be bonkers.

I dunno, I pretty much only ride Yamahas (old Yamahas at that), and I have a ton of respect for their instruments (especially their pianos and saxes), but I probably wouldn't buy a car from them.

Edit: Slavvy put it better than I did.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

Slap the motor from an R1 or, maybe an FJR1300, in that Yamacar and I'd drive the gently caress out of it.

F1DriverQuidenBerg
Jan 19, 2014

Slavvy posted:

Bike build quality is hilariously better than car build quality pretty much across the board (with a few notable exceptions) and Yamaha are near the top.

That concept gives me the impression that they don't realise how difficult it is to build a car that isn't poo poo whilst still jumping through all the legislative hoops and making the cost palatable to enough people that they buy the car. It's much 'cheaper' to build a high quality bike from a development standpoint than a high quality car.

If they build the car according to the specs I've seen floating around it would genuinely be the first new car in ages I'd be genuinely interested in. But you're right, it was designed by Gordon Murray. A man who's resume consists of making a no holds bar super car 20 years ago when regulations weren't remotely as stringent as they are today and warming over a Mercedes concept car as it transitioned to production. I don't have a lot of faith that the concept would be as pure when/if it reaches production.

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!


Video removed by user?

rowebot44
Feb 21, 2006

T1g4h posted:

Video removed by user?

Some of the sound was way off on some of the videos. Maybe they are fixing them?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Guinness posted:

Slap the motor from an R1 or, maybe an FJR1300, in that Yamacar and I'd drive the gently caress out of it.

You wouldn't enjoy sitting at 7,000rpm on the motorway or having no torque below 5 grand I don't think. Everyone faps about putting bike engines in cars but unless the car is super duper light and the bike engine very large and powerful (like busa into mini, for example), the results are less than stellar because bikes (even the really torquey ones) effectively have no torque at low revs; it's how they can have such insane specific power outputs without blowing up constantly. Even the most highly strung cars have to bow to being driveable in traffic with a boot full of luggage and a cabin full of passengers and doing that with a literbike engine isn't really the most enjoyable task even when you're on a vehicle that weighs a fraction of a car.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

I just like seeing the tach break that mythical 9000 line while not dying in a fire :unsmith:

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Gordon Murray also helped design this box with smooth edges used for transporting people around cities at like 30mph. EXCITING!



I like the Yamaha's side profile, the actual design of the thing is ugly as poo poo though. That said, it's small, light and probably a lot of fun if they could get it to where they want it... I could be swayed.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

All modern subcompact cars look like poo poo. I guess it's a combination of trying to squeeze some useful cargo space into a small footprint and still have to fulfill modern safety requirements that limits the design space.

I have a shameful affection for the Smart Roadster though, because it looks like an overgrown hot wheels.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


I WANT ONE OF THESE HOLY gently caress.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ay5FJ_FhkA

Also one of these too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFb5k1Dp3pg

Lord of Garbagemen
Jan 28, 2014

Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Rigged Death Trap posted:

I just like seeing the tach break that mythical 9000 line while not dying in a fire :unsmith:

Get a super sport instead, every engine should wind up to 16k+. Plus liters are hellishly scary to ride.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Lord of Garbagemen posted:

Get a super sport instead, every engine should wind up to 16k+. Plus liters are hellishly scary to ride.

Theres a problem tho: I'm much more a car guy.
(also a fat gently caress but that's secondary.)

Das Volk
Nov 19, 2002

by Cyrano4747

T1g4h posted:

Video removed by user?

Yeah not sure what happened there, but I fixed it with a new link.

Lord of Garbagemen
Jan 28, 2014

Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Theres a problem tho: I'm much more a car guy.
(also a fat gently caress but that's secondary.)


Lord of Garbagemen posted:

every engine should wind up to 16k+




T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!

Das Volk posted:

Yeah not sure what happened there, but I fixed it with a new link.

Sweet, thanks DV! That's insane to watch :aaa:

Das Volk
Nov 19, 2002

by Cyrano4747

T1g4h posted:

Sweet, thanks DV! That's insane to watch :aaa:

I sort of thought that all the drag from the aero kit would slow the car down on straights, but at the end of the main straight he's going almost 10MPH faster than I was there, and I turned a 1:38. I'm going back the day after thanksgiving, so it'll be interesting to see how the car performs on fresh tires. Here's my video, although I was still taking it easy at this point, and figuring out which approaches to what corners the car liked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jtQ9g9e40U

jamal
Apr 15, 2003

I'll set the building on fire
Went down because the audio was off on all the videos. They've been fixed and re-uploaded.

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf6xEkPrQwBUuY3PI7R-d-ZQFVNs0HLuP

Want to see the buttonwillow video.

GentlemanofLeisure
Aug 27, 2008
Amazing the times it is putting down. It's sad that the Viper's sales didn't do better. If that thing was European it would sell for twice the MSRP and they wouldn't be able to make enough.

Tekne
Feb 15, 2012

It's-a me, motherfucker

Word is from the FCA people at SEMA that the supposed Viper cancellation is just another clickbait rumor. Really, all they need to do to boost sales is bring back the roadster (supposedly long in development), offer an optional automatic (sacrilegious, I know), and switch to a rear exhaust (quieter cabin lol, no whining about burned legs, louder VROOM VROOM for parking lot/shopping strip revvers). Some tv ads couldn't hurt either.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

What's viper ownership like from a reliability and quality standpoint? I like them but Chrysler gonna Chrysler.

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски

Slavvy posted:

What's viper ownership like from a reliability and quality standpoint? I like them but Chrysler gonna Chrysler.

Ask Das Volk

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
The Roadkill guys offroaded one once and it seemed to hold up.

But yeah, Ask Das Volk.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

scuz posted:

The Roadkill guys offroaded one once and it seemed to hold up.
At least for one episode. :v:

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

It was probably an old test mule anyway

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Tekne posted:

Word is from the FCA people at SEMA that the supposed Viper cancellation is just another clickbait rumor. Really, all they need to do to boost sales is bring back the roadster (supposedly long in development), offer an optional automatic (sacrilegious, I know), and switch to a rear exhaust (quieter cabin lol, no whining about burned legs, louder VROOM VROOM for parking lot/shopping strip revvers). Some tv ads couldn't hurt either.

I think the viper is it's own worst enemy. Unless you get one of the super racing track attack packages, the 2016 doesn't justify it's cost over a 2000. If you're just posing with it which let's face it, it's a viper so you are, a $30,000 car has the same visual effect as a $85,000 car.

It's a really awesome vehicle, and it's great that it's built, but i can't see FCA dumping a ton of money on development and safety testing and emission testing to double their monthly sales to 100. At this point they've probably just told 3 or 4 engineers to have fun with it as long as it's legal and then pack their bags for modeno.

You Am I posted:

It was probably an old test mule anyway

it was a to-be-crushed press car, the engine is probably under a hood at sema right now.

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0toShifty
Aug 21, 2005
0 to Stiffy?
So this is probably the exact opposite thread I should post a godamned Morris Marina in, but this thing runs and drives and it's in the US so here ya go:


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